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Re: non-believers

--- In prep2003discuss@y..., "mutley1926" <rockdogs@h...> wrote:
> Just an observation. But why are those of you who don't believe in
> PX, coming to this site?

I am interested in finding out more about this phenomenon. I am an
astronomer, and have seen no evidence whatsoever that there is a
Planet X at all, and indeed there is copious evidence that suggests
there is no Planet X. However, I am researching this idea so that I
can write about it, and this seems like the logical place to do it.
I'll read Mr. Hazlewood's book as well. I have made it, well, more
than a hobby but less than a career, to look into astronomy-based
myths and misconceptions.

I have seen a few errors stated here, and I try to correct errors
when I find them to the best of my ability. I want to make sure that
if people are going to make decisions based on the available data,
then they have the best data available.




Fri Feb 22, 2002 6:54 am

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Just an observation. But why are those of you who don't believe in PX, coming to this site? If you think it is all hog-wash. Why continue to frequent the...
mutley1926
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Feb 22, 2002
6:39 am

... I am interested in finding out more about this phenomenon. I am an astronomer, and have seen no evidence whatsoever that there is a Planet X at all, and...
thebadastronomer
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Feb 22, 2002
6:54 am

Yes I believe you when you say you're a bad astronomer. This means you've studied all the dogmatic theories & don't understand what a theory is. They're not...
planetx2003
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Feb 22, 2002
7:56 am

... <snip> ... Mark, he said "I'll read Mr. Hazlewood's book as well." Chill out, he isn't attacking your book. ... No need to call him a liar! Philip Plait...
otto_zork
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Feb 22, 2002
6:07 pm

I knew of the badastronmer before you told me here. The options I included for my idea of who he is included a couple of possiblities of which you conveniently...
x2003ps
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Feb 22, 2002
8:35 pm

Wow Mark, why the personal attack? This person wasn't even engaged in conversation with you, yet you post this long personal attack. Why? This is certainly...
jtr_iv
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Feb 22, 2002
6:30 pm

It was late and I misread what he said. I thought he said he read my book and still saw no evidence for PX. My fault. Mark H ... in ... means ... a ... read ...
x2003ps
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Feb 22, 2002
9:07 pm

Dictionary definitions of Belief form unabridged dictionary.(verbatim) Belief : 1. A persuasion of the truth, on the ground of evidence, distinct from personal...
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Feb 22, 2002
7:11 pm

Hi V, Haven't seen much of you lately. Glad to see you have a good dictionary <g>. Any luck finding that encyclopedia graphic for the debate group? See you...
otto_zork
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Feb 22, 2002
9:03 pm

... This is not factually correct. A theory, in scientific terms, is far more than a guess. What a layman calls a guess a scientist calls a hypothesis. A...
thebadastronomer
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Feb 22, 2002
11:47 pm

... *No matter how much farther you take that theory down an infinite line you will never reach a fact. ... *Your definition of a theory here is completely...
x2003ps
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Feb 23, 2002
1:58 am

... That is not true. My definition of a theory is the one generally accepted by the scientific community. When a scientist talks about the "theory of...
thebadastronomer
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Feb 23, 2002
5:06 am

... That's exactly true "the way the scientists thionk the Universe work." They don't know! It's not a fact. A theory will always be just what it is and...
x2003ps
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Feb 23, 2002
6:19 am

... [...] I won't continue to argue this point with you; clearly wre cannot even agree on the terms. However... ... theories. ... other ... You said: "It's...
thebadastronomer
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Feb 23, 2002
6:29 am

You may not want to continue to want to debate this but now that you are down I'm going to kick you. The definition of the word theory has never changed....
x2003ps
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Feb 23, 2002
7:18 am

Mark a first off a hypothesis is a educational guess to what will happen after experimentation, jr. high science book. A theory is a hypothesis that cannot be...
americanexpansionist
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Aug 21, 2002
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Mark, In the paragraphs below you criticize celestial mechanics because it is built on several theories. These theories have all been tested by observation and...
jtr_iv
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Feb 23, 2002
8:25 am

Testing how a theory works, given a set of circumstances, does not prove the theory is a fact. A theory is a best guess. It does not show absolutely how the...
planetx2003
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Feb 23, 2002
7:02 pm

... Where ... It's not so much a fact as it is a hypothesis that has alot of tests backing it up, but you still haven't got enough information to say for...
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Sep 16, 2002
7:13 pm

... built on several theories. These theories have all been tested by observation and our ability to send probes out into the solar system with great accuracy....
Tuatha
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Feb 24, 2002
2:54 am

... the probes ... I mentioned this in an earlier post: the problems were in the engineering, and not the basic science. We understand how gravity works pretty...
thebadastronomer
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Feb 24, 2002
3:20 am

... *Here we go again. The why AND the how of gravity is thoery. Get over it. We can only watch or make observations as to how nature works. The rest is...
planetx2003
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Feb 24, 2002
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... "How": a description of the way something works. "Why": the underlying cause of the way something works. Example: I do not understand why (in detail) my...
thebadastronomer
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Feb 24, 2002
5:02 am

Ok, I agree with you about "the how." Thank you so much for this statement: "Why gravity works is unknown" This was the statement I was attempting to get from...
planetx2003
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Feb 24, 2002
8:34 am

... been ... No, it *doesn't*. That's the whole point! We have observed gravity and how it works for so long that we can safely predict how an object will...
thebadastronomer
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Feb 24, 2002
6:18 pm

ENOUGH ALREADY..!! You are becoming a real pain in the a--. Why don't you test your "theory" of gravity by dropping on your head.. Who knows, it might help.. ...
William Palfenier
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Feb 24, 2002
6:57 pm

Mark has to insist that orbital mechanics could be wrong because of the very specific descriptions by Zetatalk on the movements of Planet X. These descriptions...
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Feb 24, 2002
9:22 pm

Orbital mechanics are based on theories. Theories are neither wrong nor right they are just best guesess. Jim, How could I have said someting was wrong or...
planetx2003
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Feb 24, 2002
10:19 pm

Mark, It doesn't take God to see that the speeds required for PX to arrive are absurd. Very basic math is all that is required. How the force of gravity acts...
jtr_iv
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Feb 24, 2002
11:09 pm

... You're right it just takes people that have not seen it before to say that. ... You're observational math does not apply to what you have not observed. Why...
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Feb 25, 2002
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