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#46355 From: "andrew hennessey" <scottishatlantis@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 2:35 am
Subject: Re: anyone find it strange - alarm bells ringing ?
scottishatla...
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hi,

yes algaefarmer I hope that your ideas are universally adopted on
earth and are put to good use.

andrew

-- In prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com, Don Hirth <don.hirth@...> wrote:
>
> algaefarmer71,
>
> 'Sounds great!
>
> Best of luck and may you be blessed in your efforts.
> (Service to OTHERS)
>
> D. Hirth
>
> --- On Mon, 9/1/08, algaefarmer71 <algaefarmer71@...> wrote:
>
> From: algaefarmer71 <algaefarmer71@...>
> Subject: [prepare4contact] Re: anyone find it strange - alarm bells
ringing ?
> To: prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 7:37 PM
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> I don't mean for the algae thing to sound like I'm "banging my own
> drum", if it does. I want no fame from it, I want no power over anyone
> as a result of it, and I don't care about money any longer. (beyond
> basic needs and the resources to start work on the next project) I put
> the word out online in a few places hoping at least a few people who
> read it will send some positive energy my way.. or wish me luck, as it
> were.
>
> Once it's established, assuming Big Oil doesn't kill me in the
> process, (algae is potentially capable of between 10,000 and 100,000
> gallons per acre per year, vs. 20-50 gal./acre/yr. for corn and soy)
> I'll ride the project to my own internal goals, store up whatever
> basic-need money I make from it, and give the project to the entire
> human race and move on to something else. Doesn't require any
> scientific leaps... just some backyard experimentation at first,
> (which I hope to start any day now, after I pick up some lumber to
> build a stand to put the tank on outside) and a lot of land later. I
> can use/reclaim desert land with it, as long as I have a water source
> and ways to minimize evaporative losses. It can be a model
> environmental business.
>
> There's far more to my ideas than this, but the easy way to think
> about it is that it's like NOT maintaining a fish tank... and
> harvesting whatever comes out. The biodiesel can be pressed out of the
> biomass with a homemade wine press, and the remaining biomass can be
> used as fertilizer, animal feedstock, or as a source of ethanol.
>
> I am not sure many terrestrial groups would want to work with me, as I
> am not interested in "making a buck" off of this, even though it has
> the potential to be a huge money-maker in the short term. Just from
> 10% of the land we (better half and I) were looking into as our
> long-term goal for South America (I want to build facilities on all
> the continents except Antarctica) was calculated to be a maximum gross
> income of 27 billion dollars a year assuming 5 dollars a gallon for
> diesel and maximum estimated yield. Production costs can supposedly be
> reduced to 75 cents a gallon or less, according to people already
> experimenting with it. I believe I can also transplant the technology
> to use on the moon or other planets, as long as they get at least the
> same amount of solar energy one could get from living between 45
> degrees north and south latitudes here on Earth.
>
> Again, I must remind you, I'm telling this hoping people will just
> wish me luck. I don't need my ego stroked. People don't even need to
> tell me good luck. Just keep the positive thought in your minds if
> you'd like to see someone succeed in feeding, clothing, and providing
> fuel for most of the world. Didn't mean for that part to run so long,
> though.
>
> Assuming we live long enough to do all this, the project after that
> will probably be something involving modular and highly transportable
> housing based on units the size of intermodal shipping containers, but
> not shipping containers themselves. (which other people are using
> already) I intend that for working out some way to solve the homeless
> problem positively, for disaster relief, and housing on temporary work
> sites and such. If you're in a particularly positive state of mind,
> please wish me luck on that one too. Same things apply to that project.
>
> Given ideas like that, and perhaps the means to realize them, (they
> require no huge technological leaps) do we really need that huge
> glaring sign of outside intervention, at least in the technology
> department? As I see it, all we need is to survive long enough to do it.
>
> I have no contact experiences outside of seeing a couple odd lights in
> the distance on a night I was driving home a little more tired than
> usual. (two red lights rose straight up side by side and then split
> off to form a perfect T shaped path between the two at very high
> speed) I would like to make contact with a benevolent group for
> guidance, but I might have a bit more self-improvement to do before
> they'd be willing to get anywhere near me. Hopefully my health will
> hold out until then, as I'm having heart troubles among other problems.
>
> Ideal outside assistance, for me, would possibly be along the lines of
> helping to figure out how to optimize the algae project without
> "cheating": In other words, without using anything that I couldn't do
> or acquire on Earth. Unfortunately for this discussion, that project
> guidance wouldn't exactly be a huge neon sign of extraterrestrial
> assistance. I would also like some help figuring out how to implement
> the project without getting killed for my troubles by greedy and
> controlling types. Beyond that, I could probably use a little guidance
> harnessing my ability to project emotions (have done it up to 200
> miles away before) for positive use. I have a hard time trusting the
> Internet as an honest information source with so many out there
> wishing to spread possibly harmful disinformation.
>
> Sorry, rambling again.. still distracted. I've had a feeling today was
> some sort of turning point ever since the hummingbird showed up. Not
> sure if that turning point is towards the light at the end of the
> tunnel, or an oncoming train...
>
> Hopefully, stimulating some form of discussion here might prompt
> others to interject and give you more insight on the original
> questions asked. Didn't mean to get too far away from topic.
>
> --- In prepare4contact@ yahoogroups. com, "andrew hennessey"
> <scottishatlantis@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > hi algaefarmer,
> >
> > yes, in my russian bond movie I have developed ideas for a new
> > particle physics paradigm, new ways to get past critical paradoxes in
> > computation, a new kind of game theory and have even had my photo
> > taken beside someone who was sent by an interstellar empress - and who
> > stepped out of her human body form to prove this.
> > so maybe I'm a contactee with ideas too ... but I don't tend to bang
> > my own drum in that department. I just gave up on what passes for
> > science here as total BS.
> > I haven't had direct face to face contact and representation in a
> > while but I am anticipating some sort of event at some point of a
> > goodly nature.
> > my own problem with bringing my ideas forward is that if they look
> > like science they tend to be attacked and dismissed 'stream of
> > consciousness writing high on dope and techno raving music' and that
> > was merely a response to a new kind of philsosphy of arithmetic that
> > [obviously] had a finite number for zero ... so we didn't get to chaos
> > theory and aether and free energy or my artificial intelligence
issues.
> > I have found as an unbacked and not very solvent individual that my
> > own scientific ideas have foundered .. though I almost got unlucky!!
> > as Hillary clintons campaign team came across my game theory in 2006
> > when they were looking at the essence of the american female voter.
> >
> > if I were part of an organised group from a small town and had some
> > funds ... and could hire help that wasn't going to sabotage things
> > then there is no telling what kind of things we could have got up to
> > in the new sciences department maybe 6-10 years ago ... however,
> > things are different now - there just doesn't seem to be enough time
> > to run with a research project for 10 years even if therte was support
> > and backing.
> >
> > I'm sure your algae project would fare better with positive networking
> > from interested individuals, but as someone pointed out to me colonel
> > saunders of KFC lived out of his car in his eighties getting thousands
> > of refusals until his recipe finally was adopted.
> > On a cynical repto controlled charade like planet earth - that should
> > have been expected.
> >
> > andrew
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#46356 From: "Bob OHearn" <hrtbeat7@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 4:02 am
Subject: Re: anyone find it strange - alarm bells ringing ?
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--- In prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com,
"andrew hennessey" <scottishatlantis@...> wrote:

>Let me predict what will happen on the 14th of october ...
there will be an announcement on the 15th of october that our
starbrothers were so distressed by human negative attitudes and
thinking that they feel they need to give us all more time to sort out
our problems. So they called it off until WE can get ourselves
together and are more worthy of them.



Again, this is likely an accurate prediction on your part, based on
the historical evidence of similar non-events, such as the endless
predictions about the end of the world, etc. (not that I wouldn't like
to see a big starship gliding around in the skies, beaming love vibes
and generally out-shining the daily news of orchestrated wars,
political shenanigans, and celebrity weight-loss schemes). Same with
the 2012 hullabaloo, the ascension daydreams, and the rubber suit big
foots, btw. People are funny, and the last thing they are willing to
do, it seems, is to confront their own lives, right where they are,
and examine why they are so unhappy, bored, and constantly seeking
escape through some kind of distracting entertainment. They'd rather
blame their distress and malaise on some supernatural or cosmic
external cause, or on the evil PTB, than simply look at their own
minds. Of course, this is not to ignore the fact that there are some
nasty things going down on this planet, and I for one am fairly
convinced that there has been a long-running collusion on the part of
selfish vested interests to keep the populace in the dark regarding ET
contact, etc. However, our happiness and spiritual advancement or lack
thereof is ultimately our own responsibility, and the arrival or
non-arrival of star people has little to do with that fact (imho).

Peace

#46357 From: "sipis2946" <simon@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 10:15 am
Subject: Faked Invasion False Flag Video + more!
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Hi everyone,

This is an interesting video.

That Aurora contrial on the satellite weather map and the report from
1968 are new to me.

In many ways I find them to be of even greater interest than the NWO
fake invasion stuff, because they can be used as the 'smoking gun'
physical proof which is so often lacking - and as such can help
validate the rest of the message. Plus they help validate information
already in the public domain about these space capable aircraft.

Maybe some of this info would also help Gary McKinnon, if he ends up in
court in the USA.

Last week Gary lost his appeal against his extradition at the European
Court of Human Rights and alas it seems that this marks the end of the
road for his attempts to use the legal system to avoid extradition.

Regards

Simon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcH6BD1Fxd8
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcH6BD1Fxd8>


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#46358 From: "sipis2946" <simon@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 10:20 am
Subject: Re: anyone find it strange - alarm bells ringing ?
sipis2946
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For my part, I would wish that this will happen - but will not hold my
breath, as in the past there have been too many disappointments.

October is very much hyped as a month when 'something' will happen, and
although much of that info relates to events such as we would wish do
not happen (war, disease, etc) it could be that many of these
predictions are being propagated by those who see the potential for
positive change - but because it would mean their losing their positions
of power / influence / control over the mass of humanity so they are
working to instill a dread of that month and its potential.

Simon

#46359 From: "andrew hennessey" <scottishatlantis@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 11:00 am
Subject: Re: anyone find it strange - alarm bells ringing ?
scottishatla...
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yes but to keep this thread back on topic ... is there an answer as to
WHY there is no channelled cures or technology after 50 years of
enlightened contact .. and why do we not think this is dubious ??
why is that acceptable ???  WHY ?

certainly the nonsense alleged to happen on the 14th of octiber is
similar to the blackwater sniper garbage surrounding fema stories of
hurricane gustav - more fear alarm and trepidation to stoke the firtes
of confusion ... which helps us easily forget  and allow our minds to
be blacked out to the idea that whatever is contacvting humanity via
channelling isn't as friendly as its making itself out to be whether
its signing itself off as love and light and blessings or not .


--- In prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com, "sipis2946" <simon@...> wrote:
>
> For my part, I would wish that this will happen - but will not hold my
> breath, as in the past there have been too many disappointments.
>
> October is very much hyped as a month when 'something' will happen, and
> although much of that info relates to events such as we would wish do
> not happen (war, disease, etc) it could be that many of these
> predictions are being propagated by those who see the potential for
> positive change - but because it would mean their losing their positions
> of power / influence / control over the mass of humanity so they are
> working to instill a dread of that month and its potential.
>
> Simon
>

#46360 From: "algaefarmer71" <algaefarmer71@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:17 pm
Subject: Re: New Energy Not Being Deployed
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Assuming (as dangerous as that is) that my algae biodiesel/food
project works as well as I suspect it will, I believe that's another
energy technology that Big Oil here would not permit to take off.. at
least not on the scale I have in mind. I've had this growing feeling
like I have to get out of this country if I'm going to have any chance
of succeeding with it on a large scale.

Unfortunately, I don't even have the resources to get out of this
state right now, let alone the whole country. Fortunately I can start
the experimental phase with almost no money and with resources I have
on hand already, or this project would be sunk before it started.
(anyone can start it with a ten gallon aquarium, an air pump, an air
stone, and a homemade wine press made from lumber and a bucket)
Perhaps in time, growing the project out of the experimental phase, I
could sell my biodiesel and raise the money to get out.. but the
longer I'm here and working on it, the more I feel like they might "do
something about it".

Normally I'd be willing to work with a country like Russia if they
would be more receptive to it, but I'm somewhat put off by current
events. (I'm not blaming them, unlike most Americans) Offering my help
to them right now might just invite more negative attention from the
Big Oil-controlled government here. They're already aware of my
intentions on some level. (long story)



While I don't doubt that there is the possibility of utilizing "free
energy" or "zero point energy" or whatever people wish to call it, I
wonder if it doesn't have its own possible negative consequences
later. What if it turns out that, on a level we don't yet understand,
using that energy messes with the universe around us in a way that
will come back to haunt us later?

While I normallly hesitate to use sci-fi plots as examples, I believe
there was a Star Trek plotline that was similar to what I'm thinking
of. Late in the run of TNG, they ran a story about the use of warp
drive tearing at the very fabric of space until it manifested as
dangerous anomalies in a "weakened" area of space. The end of the
story resulted in them being forced to adapt a "warp drive speed
limit", for lack of a better term.. except in cases of emergency.

Perhaps I am thinking too far into our future. Perhaps I am worrying
about problems that don't exist... or, if they do exist, they are so
far off as to be meaningless to the current discussion. But why not
try to be mindful of these things before they get out of hand, even if
that's far into the future?

I remember reading on some page that it was claimed our world was more
lush and alive than most. What if that's because we haven't yet abused
it by sucking the very life energy from the space around it? That's
not to say we haven't abused it with our own methods...

Of course, far-off potential concerns like this do not excuse the
suppression of the technologies in our present reality for the reasons
they are being suppressed.

Perhaps I wouldn't have these concerns if I had any sort of conscious
contact with more technologically advanced beings to which I could
voice my concerns... but then again, perhaps I might have a whole new
set of concerns if I had that contact...



Do I think my algae biodiesel plan is any better than these other "new
energy technologies"? No, not really.. but one of the many ideas
involved in that plan is to recycle the exhaust of anything we use to
generate power with it on-site back into the algae so it can use the
CO2 produced. It would be sent to a separate set of algae growing
tanks that would not be used in the food production portion of the
operation. That algae would be strictly for biodiesel production and
ethanol production from the remaining (contaminated by exhaust)
biomass. We can still produce biodiesel from the "purer" edible algae
on top of whatever is produced by the exhaust-recycling setup.

I've given myself a headache from writing this...


--- In prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com, nathaniel x vance
<broali4xa@...> wrote:
>
> New Energy Not Being Deployed?
> Here
> is another new energy saving example, which proves that what the Zetas
> people said about the USA not allowing new cleaner cheaper energy
> sources to surface or be deployed is in fact a fact. Check out this man
> who use to get 8 miles city and 20 miles highway per gallon. With this
> very simple less than 100 dollars water/hydrogen contraption that he
easily himself installed, he now get 20 and 40 miles respectively!
This is over double the mileage that that got from using just gasoline!
> Didn't the Zetas say that the "control-freak Enron-minded"
Service-to-self oil industry desires nothing less than maintain the
status quo at all cost - that is, them in power forever!
> http://gmy.news.yahoo.com/v/9344805
>
> ZetaTalk: New Energy
> Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
> For
> ourselves, the Service-to-Others Zetas, to describe the new forms of
> energy would be to steal the thunder from those humans who are so
> diligently working to bring this to the Earth at the present time.
> Remember, Earth is in the hands of humans, now. Her immediate future
> rests in the hands of humans, and none other. For the immediate future
> of human society to improve requires the cooperation and intervention
> of humans. And these things are in the works.
> Your
> forms of energy now are antique, or terribly crude. Burning oil and
> coal and wood, with all the pollution this causes, is not at all
> necessary. Nuclear energy has a pollutant that is even more harmful, a
> byproduct man does not know how to deal with. Yet clean forms of
> energy, known to mankind's scientists in the laboratories of today, are
> kept from use by the establishment, which has a vested interest in
> continuing the status quo.
> All rights reserved: ZetaTalk@...
> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p15.htm
>
> We're in the ENDTIME of the Wicked and Not the RIGHTEOUS - GOD is
Not MOCKED!
>  salaam  akwaaba  jambo  Ashogee
>   http://zetaheaven.org
>
>
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>

#46361 From: "iren_cz@..." <irenczajka62@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 9:37 am
Subject: Fwd: >>CPChat>> Hopi prophecy 2012 Rare video
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   Dear Friends,

Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB9gqjZ9_IQ

Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETeuvmdKiRg

Part III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LroV8LoHO0

Part IV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeyrCw-gRAE

Part V
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Love and Light.

David

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#46362 From: Jonathan Mark <flyby@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:30 pm
Subject: NIST Lies * Jehan Box * Ice Tipping * Nukes
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September 2, 2008 -
<http://www.flybynews.com/cgi-local/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1220319160,42837,\
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"The future is in the past
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- - September 08 Month of Truth – campaigns and events
2) Jehan Abdur-Raheem Hunger Strike to Get Out of BOX
- - McCain’s military father and betrayal of USS Liberty
3) Nuke Fight Nears Decisive Moment
- - Sally Shaw - rain, meetings, and rad waste
- - Radiation levels raised at Vt. Yankee
4) Arctic ice 'is at tipping point'
- - Warming and 9/11 Related Danger Zones

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#46363 From: Jay Moody <jaymthegenius@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: NIST Lies * Jehan Box * Ice Tipping * Nukes
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There will be no nuke fights as everyone kows the catastrophic damage such
instruments would cause.  And yes, Palin is NOT qualified for VP, a very
suspicious choice considering her lack of experience (Giulliani would have been
the better pick as mayor of New York City is far, far, far, more prestigous,
powerful (therefore 20 months as New York mayor has far more weight than
governor of any state, with California being an exception) and valuable than an
Alaskan governor (or even the New York governor).  Not that I'm a fan of
Giulliani as he fucked alot of stuff up however I'm just acknowledging that he
would be the best choice for Mccain as a VP.



----- Original Message ----
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To: Flyby News Notes <info@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2008 9:30:18 AM
Subject: [prepare4contact] NIST Lies * Jehan Box * Ice Tipping * Nukes


Flyby News Notes -
Editor - Jonathan Mark - www.FlybyNews. com
September 2, 2008 -
<http://www.flybynew s.com/cgi- local/newspro/ viewnews. cgi?newsid122031
9160,42837,>NIST
Lies * Jehan Box * Ice Tipping * Nukes

"The future is in the past
with no escape present."

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1) NIST supports 9/11 cover-up
- - Debunking NIST's Conclusions About WTC 7
- - The Financial Times and the 'Self-Confessed Mastermind of 9/11'
- - FBI Sweeps Anthrax Under the Rug
- - Sarah Palin, grazing animals and the herd mentality
- - "The Reflecting Pool" receives award at Moondance Film Fest
- - September 08 Month of Truth – campaigns and events
2) Jehan Abdur-Raheem Hunger Strike to Get Out of BOX
- - McCain’s military father and betrayal of USS Liberty
3) Nuke Fight Nears Decisive Moment
- - Sally Shaw - rain, meetings, and rad waste
- - Radiation levels raised at Vt. Yankee
4) Arctic ice 'is at tipping point'
- - Warming and 9/11 Related Danger Zones

Editor’s Notes:

Catching up with September reality, this issue
begins by debunking NIST (National Institute of
Standards and Technology) for bending natural
laws of physics to fit a double standard of lies
and betrayal. The first item also updates on
<http://www.reflecti ngpoolfilm. com/>The
Reflecting Pool receiving an award at the
Moondance Film Festival. This September 11 this
film has another appearance at the Pioneer
Theater; and <http://abledangerth emovie.com/>Able
Danger premieres on 9/11/08 in Manhattan for a
week-run, 9:00 pm. More information on this and
on a campaign in every state of the union for
9/11 truth, see the last article in item one
(Month of Truth). Item two begins with a letter
from Jehan Abdur-Raheem, who went on a hunger
strike in desperation to get out of the BOX in
Elmira Correctional Facility, where he has been
held since December 2005. The next article is
from a survivor of the USS Liberty, which
describes how Senator John McCain’s father aided
in a cover-up of this apparent failure of another
treacherous 'false flag' operation. The article
is called
<http://ussliberty. wordpress. com/2008/ 08/07/leave- no-comrade- behind/>Leave
No Comrade Behind.

Item three leaves some room for hope that the
Vermont state legislature will deny the
re-licensing of the falling-apart Vermont Yankee
Nuclear Power Plant. Radiation and the escalation
of military insanity is what propelled Flyby News
to make a commitment to at least 2013 in
reporting news and actions for life’s survival in
the 21st Century. Item four is warning that it
could already be too late. Alex Jones and VP
Candidate Sarah Palin seem like strange
bedfellows, both believe that the general
scientific community’s concern of Global Warming
is overblown, a hoax. Especially from Jones, this
can confuse the issue in favor of the NIST-WTC-7
downfall theories. What a joke, or is it a
precursor of the next diabolical act?

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and into the future.

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#46364 From: brel <brel@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 3:49 pm
Subject: Document Alert
brelou32
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Hi Skolyer and Dex,
Wont it be lovely when there is no longer any sham over what any life
form looks like, so that We
can get on with more important things, like just getting on with each
other, in showing compassion,
tolerance, and thinking first, rather than automatically just lashing out.
Bre.

skolyer wrote:
>
> I think it was for both reasons. But I do seem to remember her stating
> something about someone focusing or concentrating on the picture. But
> you never know if that is the only reason that she doesn't want people
> to look at her picture. Plus the phony pictures that Billy Meier came
> up with. You know, the one with the milky white arm with the ray gun
> in the picture. They have evidence that one of his other pictures is a
> hoax. The one of a dinosaur. This suggests that they may be trying to
> hide something about their identity or what they really look like and
> that there may be more deception. And the explanation that Lacerta
> gave as to why she would not allow herself to be photographed was
> because the way she really appeared would show up on the photo. Could
> it be that the real reason Semjase did not want to be photographed was
> because her true appearance might show up on the photo. Are the
> Pleadians using the same switch in Billy Meier's brain that allows
> them to appear as humanoids or however they wish to make themselves
> appear? Why did the alien ask Whitley Strieber "how would you wish for
> me to appear". Could it be that they were using the same switch in his
> brain to make them appear in a way that they don't?
>
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>
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#46365 From: frankferg@...
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: Re: anyone find it strange - alarm bells ringing ?
frankferg
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Hi algaefarmer71 and Andrew,

Agree with what you say here.
"> One last thing before I end this Russian novel: I wouldn't exactly put
> my soul in anyone else's hands but my own. Outsiders can advise me if
> they are benevolent in intent, but I make my own decisions."

Isn't this taking matters into our own hands the same consideration with respect
to channeling.?What if 80% of the information that is channeled is
scientifically?correct.? You still face the problem of which info is correct and
which is?false.??Knower's seeking the Ultimate Reality?determine here what is
truth and,?what is deception.? .We have to be free to exercise this discernment
productively.? Even assuming that you have been wholeheartedly knowing and are
free to discern correctly why get the information via channeling when you can
get the knowledge directly from the God above gods.??

Then as always it comes down to what are we going to do.? As Andrew would put it
: " How can we best help one another."???

When cooperating with God you are automatically in?God's will.? Though you can
always try?for the center of God's will.?

God uses people.? We need to be in God and have God in us.? This is the way that
God draws together those that God uses.

"they" do have the capability of?implanting thoughts into our heads that would
seem like our own
?thoughts but?are theirs.

You ask

"Who's to say that benevolent aliens don't do this also."?

Do these benevolent aliens or ET's?of God?implant thoughts into our heads
without our informed consent.?

Will "they", ?PTB , or shadow government?that are now using?HAARP or the Russian
equivalent? use "HAARP?to?facilitate some fairly spectacular positive changes in
the entire?human race" or will they use HAARP?to control our minds and strip our
souls.

Thankfully the PTB?can't do this controlling and stripping?without our informed
consent.?


In Peace,
Frank


?



-----Original Message-----
From: andrew hennessey <scottishatlantis@...>
To: prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 7:00 am
Subject: [prepare4contact] Re: anyone find it strange - alarm bells ringing ?






yes but to keep this thread back on topic ... is there an answer as to
WHY there is no channelled cures or technology after 50 years of
enlightened contact .. and why do we not think this is dubious ??
why is that acceptable ??? WHY ?

certainly the nonsense alleged to happen on the 14th of octiber is
similar to the blackwater sniper garbage surrounding fema stories of
hurricane gustav - more fear alarm and trepidation to stoke the firtes
of confusion ... which helps us easily forget and allow our minds to
be blacked out to the idea that whatever is contacvting humanity via
channelling isn't as friendly as its making itself out to be whether
its signing itself off as love and light and blessings or not .

--- In prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com, "sipis2946" <simon@...> wrote:
>
> For my part, I would wish that this will happen - but will not hold my
> breath, as in the past there have been too many disappointments.
>
> October is very much hyped as a month when 'something' will happen, and
> although much of that info relates to events such as we would wish do
> not happen (war, disease, etc) it could be that many of these
> predictions are being propagated by those who see the potential for
> positive change - but because it would mean their losing their positions
> of power / influence / control over the mass of humanity so they are
> working to instill a dread of that month and its potential.
>
> Simon
>






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#46366 From: Lynett Durgin <nettydurgin@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: Re: anyone find it strange - alarm bells ringing ?
nettydurgin
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Hi Andrew:
 
There are so many channeled cures that I couldn't list them here.  You must be
traveling in the wrong circles if you haven't witnessed healings all over the
place in the last 50 years.  As I have said many times, at the end of age, at
the end of a major cycle that is approaching the main relationship will be
between each human and their individual connection to source.  The people who
post here are only a very small sample of people who have experienced
"enlightenment" in the past few decades, and most of these people do not belong
to Yahoo Groups.
 
A social worker I was talking to the other day told me about his big "God"
experience, and how he was suddenly no longer HIV-positive afterwards, and no
longer an alcoholic.  So if you're really looking for accounts of healing
experiences, they are all over the map.
 
As far as new technologies from channeled information, there was a CEO of a
start-up here in Silicon Valley who went public about 10 years ago that the
information his company was using to develop their products came from
extraterrestrials.
 
As far as "channeling" goes, if you really think about, every word that comes
out of your mouth is "channeled" in some respects.  All your thoughts, your
soul, your essence comes from a "higher" place; our physical forms are simply
that:  the form that houses a spark of our eternal selves.
 
cheers,
Lynett Durgin
 


--- On Tue, 9/2/08, frankferg@... <frankferg@...> wrote:

From: frankferg@... <frankferg@...>
Subject: Re: [prepare4contact] Re: anyone find it strange - alarm bells ringing
?
To: prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com
Cc: FRANKFERG@..., frankferg@..., frank.ferguson@...
Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 9:26 AM







Hi algaefarmer71 and Andrew,

Agree with what you say here.
"> One last thing before I end this Russian novel: I wouldn't exactly put
> my soul in anyone else's hands but my own. Outsiders can advise me if
> they are benevolent in intent, but I make my own decisions."

Isn't this taking matters into our own hands the same consideration with respect
to channeling.? What if 80% of the information that is channeled is
scientifically? correct.? You still face the problem of which info is correct
and which is?false.??Knower' s seeking the Ultimate Reality?determine here what
is truth and,?what is deception.? .We have to be free to exercise this
discernment productively. ? Even assuming that you have been wholeheartedly
knowing and are free to discern correctly why get the information via channeling
when you can get the knowledge directly from the God above gods.??

Then as always it comes down to what are we going to do.? As Andrew would put it
: " How can we best help one another."???

When cooperating with God you are automatically in?God's will.? Though you can
always try?for the center of God's will.?

God uses people.? We need to be in God and have God in us.? This is the way that
God draws together those that God uses.

"they" do have the capability of?implanting thoughts into our heads that would
seem like our own
?thoughts but?are theirs.

You ask

"Who's to say that benevolent aliens don't do this also."?

Do these benevolent aliens or ET's?of God?implant thoughts into our heads
without our informed consent.?

Will "they", ?PTB , or shadow government?that are now using?HAARP or the Russian
equivalent? use "HAARP?to?facilitat e some fairly spectacular positive changes
in the entire?human race" or will they use HAARP?to control our minds and strip
our souls.

Thankfully the PTB?can't do this controlling and stripping?without our informed
consent.?

In Peace,
Frank

?

-----Original Message-----
From: andrew hennessey <scottishatlantis@ yahoo.com>
To: prepare4contact@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 7:00 am
Subject: [prepare4contact] Re: anyone find it strange - alarm bells ringing ?

yes but to keep this thread back on topic ... is there an answer as to
WHY there is no channelled cures or technology after 50 years of
enlightened contact .. and why do we not think this is dubious ??
why is that acceptable ??? WHY ?

certainly the nonsense alleged to happen on the 14th of octiber is
similar to the blackwater sniper garbage surrounding fema stories of
hurricane gustav - more fear alarm and trepidation to stoke the firtes
of confusion ... which helps us easily forget and allow our minds to
be blacked out to the idea that whatever is contacvting humanity via
channelling isn't as friendly as its making itself out to be whether
its signing itself off as love and light and blessings or not .

--- In prepare4contact@ yahoogroups. com, "sipis2946" <simon@...> wrote:
>
> For my part, I would wish that this will happen - but will not hold my
> breath, as in the past there have been too many disappointments.
>
> October is very much hyped as a month when 'something' will happen, and
> although much of that info relates to events such as we would wish do
> not happen (war, disease, etc) it could be that many of these
> predictions are being propagated by those who see the potential for
> positive change - but because it would mean their losing their positions
> of power / influence / control over the mass of humanity so they are
> working to instill a dread of that month and its potential.
>
> Simon
>

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#46367 From: nathaniel x vance <broali4xa@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 4:28 pm
Subject: Reincarnation: B.H. Obama; Tiger Woods
broali4xa
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Reincarnation: B.H.
Obama; Tiger Woods

Dear Group,

According to the Zeta space
people of Zetatalk.com, if reincarnation is an immutable Galaxxtic fact and
reality for all sentient life forms who have sparked throughout the (7)
universes.
Respectfully, what chances would you give it that Pharaoh Akhenaton and Senator
Barack H.
Obama have more in common than just an over abundance of great smarts and
very similar appearances? As for Tiger Woods, the legendary
prolific and perhaps arguably the greatest golfer of all times, likewise, do
you think that there is a connection between him and the great former golfer
Bobby Jones? Bobby
Jones (A white man) died
in 1971, whereas Tiger Woods (a
black Asiatic man) was born in 1975.





[http://www.zetatalk.com/orientat/o03.htm]
Zeta Reincarnation

[http://www.crystalinks.com/akhenaten.html]
Pharaoh Akhenaton

[http://www.barackobama.com/index.php?affid=100037]
Sen. Barack Obama

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Woods]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jones_(golfer)]




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#46368 From: "iren_cz@..." <irenczajka62@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 4:50 pm
Subject: Fwd: >>CPChat>> Sun Makes History: First Spotless Month in a Century
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   Dear Friends,

Click the link if you don't receive the images/can't access the links.

http://www.dailytech.com/Sun+Makes+History+First+Spotless+Month+in+a+Century/art\
icle12823.htm

Love and Light.

David


Sun Makes History: First Spotless Month in a Century
Michael Asher (Blog) - September 1, 2008 8:11 AM


The record-setting surface of the sun. A full month has gone by without a
single spot  (Source: Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO))

Sunspot activity of the past decade. Over the past year, SIDC has
continually revised its predictions downward  (Source: Solar Influences Data
Center)

Geomagnetic solar activity for the past two decades. The recent drop
corresponds to the decline in sunspots.  (Source: Anthony Watts)

A chart of sunspot activity showing two prior solar minima, along with
heightened activity during the 20th century  (Source: Wikimedia Commons)

Drop in solar activity has potential effect for climate on earth.

The sun has reached a milestone not seen for nearly 100 years: an entire
month has passed without a single visible sunspot being noted.
The event is significant as many climatologists now believe solar magnetic
activity – which determines the number of sunspots -- is an influencing
factor for climate on earth.
According to data from Mount Wilson Observatory, UCLA, more than an entire
month has passed without a spot. The last time such an event occurred was
June of 1913. Sunspot data has been collected since 1749.
When the sun is active, it's not uncommon to see sunspot numbers of 100 or
more in a single month.  Every 11 years, activity slows, and numbers briefly
drop to near-zero.   Normally sunspots return very quickly, as a new cycle
begins.
But this year -- which corresponds to the start of Solar Cycle 24 -- has
been extraordinarily long and quiet, with the first seven months averaging a
sunspot number of only 3. August followed with none at all. The astonishing
rapid drop of the past year has defied predictions, and caught nearly all
astronomers by surprise.
In 2005, a pair of astronomers from the National Solar Observatory (NSO) in
Tucson attempted to publish a paper in the journal Science. The pair looked
at minute spectroscopic and magnetic changes in the sun. By extrapolating
forward, they reached the startling result that, within 10 years, sunspots
would vanish entirely. At the time, the sun was very active. Most of their
peers laughed at what they considered an unsubstantiated conclusion.
The journal ultimately rejected the paper as being too controversial.
The paper's lead author, William Livingston, tells DailyTech that, while the
refusal may have been justified at the time, recent data fits his theory
well. He says he will be "secretly pleased" if his predictions come to pass.
But will the rest of us? In the past 1000 years, three previous such events
-- the Dalton, Maunder, and Spörer Minimums, have all led to rapid cooling.
One was large enough to be called a "mini ice age". For a society dependent
on agriculture, cold is more damaging than heat. The growing season
shortens, yields drop, and the occurrence of crop-destroying frosts
increases.
Meteorologist Anthony Watts, who runs a climate data auditing site, tells
DailyTech the sunspot numbers are another indication the "sun's dynamo" is
idling. According to Watts, the effect of sunspots on TSI (total solar
irradiance) is negligible, but the reduction in the solar magnetosphere
affects cloud formation here on Earth, which in turn modulates climate.
This theory was originally proposed by physicist Henrik Svensmark, who has
published a number of scientific papers on the subject. Last year
Svensmark's "SKY" experiment claimed to have proven that galactic cosmic
rays -- which the sun's magnetic field partially shields the Earth from --
increase the formation of molecular clusters that promote cloud growth.
Svensmark, who recently published a book on the theory, says the
relationship is a larger factor in climate change than greenhouse gases.
Solar physicist Ilya Usoskin of the University of Oulu, Finland, tells
DailyTech the correlation between cosmic rays and terrestrial cloud cover is
more complex than "more rays equals more clouds". Usoskin, who notes the sun
has been more active since 1940 than at any point in the past 11 centuries,
says the effects are most important at certain latitudes and altitudes which
control climate. He says the relationship needs more study before we can
understand it fully.
Other researchers have proposed solar effects on other terrestrial processes
besides cloud formation. The sunspot cycle has strong effects on irradiance
in certain wavelengths such as the far ultraviolet, which affects ozone
production. Natural production of isotopes such as C-14 is also tied to
solar activity. The overall effects on climate are still poorly understood.
What is incontrovertible, though, is that ice ages have occurred before. And
no scientist, even the most skeptical, is prepared to say it won't happen
again.

Article Update, Sep 1 2008.  After this story was published, the NOAA
reversed their previous decision on a tiny speck seen Aug 21, which gives
their version of the August data a half-point.  Other observation centers
such as Mount Wilson Observatory are still reporting a spotless month.  So
depending on which center you believe, August was a record for either a full
century, or only 50 years.

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Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 4:52 pm
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#46370 From: "iren_cz@..." <irenczajka62@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 4:55 pm
Subject: > Get ready to say goodbye to unlimited Internet access
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Subject: >>CPChat>> Get ready to say goodbye to unlimited Internet access


   Dear Friends,

Don't look now, but...Part II. Click the link if you can't proceed to page
2/can't access the links.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/SmartHome/story?id=5689480&page=1

Love and Light.

David

Get ready to say goodbye to unlimited Internet access.


Comcast Corp., the nation's second-largest Internet service provider, says
it would set an official limit on the amount of data subscribers can
download and upload each month.(AP Photo)
Last week, Comcast -- the second-largest Internet service provider in the
country -- announced that starting Oct. 1 it would officially set a
threshold for monthly Internet usage.
In an online announcement, the service provider said that although it
already contacts residential customers who use excessive amounts of
bandwidth, it had never provided a specific limit. Now, Comcast said it will
amend its user agreement to say that users will be allowed 250 gigabytes of
monthly usage.
The company emphasizes that its cap is generous and will only affect about 1
percent of its 14.4 million customers. Experts say these customers might
include heavy gamers and those who use a significant amount of bandwidth for
creating or uploading video.
But industry watchers note that Comcast's decision is indicative of a trend
by Internet service providers to move toward usage-based service plans.

Related

FCC Chief Regulates on Comcast


Comcast May Limit Downloads


Company to Test Metered Internet Service

On Aug. 1, Frontier Communications changed its policy to define acceptable
use for high-speed Internet as 5 GB per month. In June, Time Warner Cable
launched a test program in Beaumont, Texas, that imposes monthly Internet
usage limits of 5 GB to 40 GB on subscribers.
Because Comcast is a heavyweight in the industry, its announcement has drawn
criticism and questions from broadband and telecommunications researchers.

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"The biggest problem I have [is] they haven't given us any data. They've
given us no proof," said Om Malik, author of "Broadbandits: Inside the $750
Billion Telecom Heist" and editor of GigaOM, a popular technology Web site.
Malik said GigaOm and five other technology news sites managed by his online
publishing company, Giga Omni Media, receive about two million visitors each
month.
Comcast's limit is substantially higher that those established by other
service providers, Malik acknowledges. But he maintains that the company's
decision amounts to metered billing and, if that's the case, it should
provide a tool so that consumers can monitor their own usage.
"[With] electricity companies -- and water companies -- you have the choice
to monitor the electricity you are using," said Malik, drawing comparisons
between Comcast and regulated public utilities that maintain the
infrastructure for public services.

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#46371 From: mike ceranko <cerankoman@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: Re: New Energy Not Being Deployed
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Go to Iceland with your idea. also Growing algae would solve the earths food
problems. We can grow algae anywhere the sun shines period. We could feed africa
and the world with huge algae farms we could build in the deserts. Spirulina has
75% protein and its green. With all of the phyto nutrients we need. Technologies
are supressed. The big banks wont loan countries money if they dont play ball.
Countries know about free feul. We can run a car on water. Tesla could power
everything within a 25 mile radius with his tesla coil generators. He could
literally screw lighthe world leader of that country decided to go with bulbs
into the GROUND and they would light up. He could run a car on ambient energy in
the air with an antenna. ALL of this is proven, the government owns the patents
now. NO one could make money off of this. They could if they were smart. Make a
1c sales tax on everything but they wont. They want to keep third world
countries in the darkness
  and fighting THEY DONT WANT THEM TO HAVE FREE ENERGY, EDUCATION OR DECENT
HOSPITALS so they stagnate and die. So no one compeats with the US, China and
Russia and Europe. WE COULD ALREADY BE IN SPACE AND HAVE AN IDEALLIC SOCIETY. WE
HAVE THE TECH TO DO IT. But certain people like to play god and be at the top
for their own vanity. If someone came out with a new idea and decided to go with
it. Indonesia creates free energy grid for its country. They would soon be
accused of running a terrorist regime and the country would have a nice US
sponsored Ghunta and some psycho dictator would be put in charge. Who would
destroy the country. We've done it to everyone. There is a reeason why the other
countries call us the great white satan. Its because our policy is evil and
based on corporate greed. Look up the Venus project. This guy Jacques fresco is
amazing. The problem is we cant change our government by voting. They control
the machines. When Princeton can
  hack a machine and prove it changing the results and it makes national news and
they still keep the machines whats wrong with this picture? THEY DONT CARE.
There is no one policing the government. PERIOD. So excuse me if I want aliens
to arrive and take me off planet. Why is that so bad? I trust Aliens more than I
do our own government.  Get me out of here. We are so brainwashed no one cares
anymore. No one wants to fight for their freedoms. We need another million man
march for freedom.























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#46372 From: "Royce Holleman" <mrparanormal@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 7:07 pm
Subject: THE12TH DEMON: VAMPYRE MAJIK
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#46373 From: "Jeffrey Morgan Foss" <jmf@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 6:38 pm
Subject: FW: [ufos-231] interesting video
liastar_2000
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Courtesy Katya Manjossova, Atlanta UFO Meetup:



http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=peter+petrelli+disclosure+project
<http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=peter+petrelli+disclosure+project&sitesea\
rch=> &sitesearch=#

Jeff



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Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:23 PM
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Bless you and hugs to you, Katya!



Jeff



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#46374 From: "Linda" <lmbrooks42@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 10:53 pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: >>CPChat>> Hopi prophecy 2012 Rare video
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I watched all these videos - they're very good, and are pertinent to
what is happening in the world today, although they were filmed back
around 1985.  If anyone hasn't seen them, check them out, they're
well worth it, and thanks to Iren.

Can anyone identify the speaker? The person who posted the videos is
trying to find out so she can post his name. He mentioned the Bahai
faith, Mount St. Helens, and his brother Randolph & a Yakima shield.
The video was made by Light of the North Audio/Visual Centre, Box
1009 Girdwood, Alaska. I can't find that centre online, but maybe
this info will jog someone's memory.

By the way, Iren, a couple of unusual things are going on with this.
I had to fight to see these videos because my computer suddenly got
hung up the first time, and the second time the electricity for the
whole house turned off.  Both times the speaker was talking about the
races coming together.

The second thing is an orb of blue light the speaker mentions, that
was timely as a friend of mine is experiencing them herself.  We've
been doing some light research on it and have been finding a
consistent connection with blue lights and Arcturians.

Peace,
Linda

#46375 From: EXOPOLITICS.COM <exopolitics@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 11:23 pm
Subject: OBAMA WEBSITE - PEACE IN SPACE/PEACE ON EARTH
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#46376 From: "andrew hennessey" <scottishatlantis@...>
Date: Wed Sep 3, 2008 12:18 am
Subject: Re: anyone find it strange - alarm bells ringing ?
scottishatla...
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hi Lynett,

yes you speak truly ... I have had some acts of major healing done to
myself too - I guess i was trying to find out why there wasn't an
active movement in the public domain that had got past the media blockade.
There has to be several - but they will have been well suppressed.
I can understand that.
I think when you say its down to our own individual connections with
the source is where you are true to the whole thing - we are all part
of bigger spiritual circles.
But there are a few billion people not on the internet in places like
africa and asia that never got to those workshops - and those are the
people in urgent need of major indistrial and medical innovations.
there are plenty of coffee and cake eaters like myself doing the
rounds - but issues of africa and asia have always been with us -
unattended.
there might be thousands of relatively well off people in the west who
have cures for this and that - but we don't have any assistance for
millions and millions of people whether from et or with the help of et
  against the anti-human will of reptilian industries.

andrew


-- In prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com, Lynett Durgin <nettydurgin@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew:
>
> There are so many channeled cures that I couldn't list them here.
You must be traveling in the wrong circles if you haven't witnessed
healings all over the place in the last 50 years.  As I have said many
times, at the end of age, at the end of a major cycle that is
approaching the main relationship will be between each human and their
individual connection to source.

#46377 From: "andrew hennessey" <scottishatlantis@...>
Date: Wed Sep 3, 2008 12:26 am
Subject: 14th october mothership hoax ?
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lets assume that the status quo is preserved - business as usual on
the farm ...
so lets look at the reasons that we can be given for the no show.

1. were not collectively worthy
2. put off by behaviour of reptilian hierarchy
3. had close quarters combat with enraged altimarians
4. dr boylan dropped his workshop price
5. had engine failure wait till Christmas
6. got captured by cabal forces helf hostage but colonel shadow on the
    way with away team.
7. had to take out andrew hennessey first
8. did arrive but in top secret negotiations with a special friend of
    Dr X or Y and we will hear more later if you book for this conference
    to be held at Hotel california

I must admit october the 14th sounds a good plausible arbitrary date -
but in reality they would already be here talking big time to all
sorts of people in a quite open way without entertaining the cabal.
they don't need the cabal media circus ... if they are intent on
helping mankind escape the repto-grey farm.

andrew

#46378 From: "iren_cz@..." <irenczajka62@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 10:24 pm
Subject: Fwd: THE ASTROLOGY OF 2012
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Subject: >>CPChat>> THE ASTROLOGY OF 2012


   Dear Friends,

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http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/astro.html

Love and Light.

David


THE ASTROLOGY OF 2012
The 2012 phenomenon was first brought to my attention when Geoff Stray asked
if I could see any significance in the astrological chart of 21st December
2012.
Researching the astrology of 2012 has taken me on quite a journey and led me
along many interesting and diverse paths, and I would like to share with you
my discoveries on one of these tributaries that has proven to be of
particular interest to me: the astrological significance of 2012 for the UK,
England especially.  This ancient land and culture is very unique and
special in many ways and it is regarded by many people as the 'heart chakra'
of the world.  We are also blessed for some reason with the majority of the
crop circles that appear in the world, as if our consciousness is somehow
more tuned in to this type of symbolism, wherever it may come from.  I also
think there is some significance to the fact that the English language is so
widely used around the world.
It is never easy to convey astrological concepts to the layperson without
using the jargon that astrologers bandy about like a foreign language.
However, I will endeavour to describe them in the most accessible terms.
The Astrological Chart of England
As a background, I will first give a brief description of the astrological
chart that I use for England (and, by default, the UK) - the crowning of
William the Conqueror at Midday on 25th December 1066 (I shall expand on my
reasons for using this particular chart later).   Countries have horoscopes
that can be interpreted just the same as one would for a person.  In fact, a
chart can be cast for anything that has a 'birth', and it will embody the
qualities of that moment in time.  As the planets continue on their cycles
through the heavens, they form new aspects (astrologically meaningful
positions) to the planets on the birth chart, and it is through the transits
between them that astrologers glean clues and indications as to the type of
energy that is around and the possible events that can then manifest as a
result.  Astrology is therefore a very powerful tool, as the ancients knew
only too well.  I cannot say that the transits of the
planets actually cause things here on earth, but statistical analysis shows
there is a clear correlation of transits with types of events and there is
certainly something strangely synchronistic that happens.  As the old saying
goes: 'As above, so below'.
If I give you an interpretation of some of the planetary energies which were
around when William the Conqueror was crowned (see Fig. 1), you may be able
to recognise some of our more obvious national traits.  Countries do seem to
have 'personalities', and it is quite fun to see how the national
characteristics of a country can so easily be recognised from their
horoscope.  This is why we as a nation are so different from, say, Italy.

Figure 1.  Coronation of William the Conqueror

England as we know it now was effectively 'born' when the Sun was in the
stable earth sign of Capricorn.  The quality of earth is to move and change
very slowly and it has a liking for things that have a lasting value.  We
are conservative as a nation and therefore like to preserve our traditions,
a good example being the monarchy.  Indeed, the character traits of Queen
Victoria and our current Queen Elizabeth embody the qualities of loyalty and
devoted service to duty that is reflected in our nation.  As a people, we
are stoic and often like to be seen as respectable, responsible and reserved
to the point of the 'stiff upper lip'.  We like to grumble and moan
(embodied by such characters as Eeyore in Winnie the Pooh, and Puddleglum in
the Narnia books) and can be quite melancholic, sometimes taking life too
seriously.  We err on the side of cynicism and it is difficult to pull the
wool over our eyes.  However, this is wonderfully offset
by our ironic and very dry sense of humour.  A personality such as
characters played by John Cleese is indicative of the sort of caricatured
Englishman that could be recognised around the world as someone typically
British.
The chart some astrologers use for England and/or the United Kingdom is the
Union of Great Britain with Ireland on 1 January 1801.  Fascinatingly
enough, the Sun is in Capricorn at virtually the same degree as the 1066
chart and Pluto has also returned to the same position.  There are many
similarities in these two charts and therefore the significant transits
occurring in 2012 will have similar affects, whichever chart is used.  The
reason I use the chart for 1066 is because England changed so dramatically
after the invasion of William the Conqueror.  He brought with him the birth
of a new and more cohesive nation, with Norman culture indelibly sweeping
aside much of what had gone before, and since this time (not withstanding
events such as the Civil War of the 1640s, in which Charles I was executed)
there has been a virtually unbroken line of kings and queens.  It is also
the date that most people remember as the birth of modern English history,
far more so than the 1801 chart.  The fact that it is so entrenched in the
national psyche automatically gives it psychological significance on a
collective level.
I am sure that in the past astrologers would have been consulted about the
best times for auspicious state occasions such as coronations, and it is
probable that kings would be crowned at midday, because the Sun would then
be at the zenith of the sky and therefore in the tenth 'house' of the
horoscope.  This is the house associated with public standing and our status
in the world, and it is therefore a very powerful placing in the chart,
whether it be for a person or a nation.
The fiery sign of Aries was the sign coming up over the horizon at the
moment of William's coronation, and therefore this is known as the
'Ascendant', or rising sign.  Aries is ruled by Mars, the god of war, who
embodies the dynamic masculine principle of action and desire.  Aries rising
likes to be a leader and is not content to sit back and be a spectator.  He
is fearless and likes a conquest.  The spirit of Jason and the Argonauts
would be typical of this sign.  So, with the combination of Capricorn's urge
to build something solid and lasting, together with the Aries urge to
conquer, we created our Empire.
You will observe that the Moon in the chart is in the sensitive, watery sign
of Pisces, and this helps to soften the harder aspects of Capricorn and
Aries.  I see this reflected in our Welfare State and the NHS.  The Moon
also resides in the twelfth house, which rules institutions and, more
esoterically, spirituality, music, poetry and the arts, the collective
unconscious and hidden enemies.  With Pisces being the last of the Zodiac
signs, and the twelfth house being the last house, the position of the Moon
signifies a greater connection with the numinous and our ultimate return to
the source, before the whole cycle starts again with Aries.  Our caring and
generous national spirit can also be glimpsed in the hosting of events such
as Live Aid, and people often talk of how collectively caring we are for
each other in crises, as was demonstrated in the Blitz.  However, just like
a person, a nation has a shadowy side and this I see in the Moon, tucked
away in the hidden twelfth house.   This side of our character can be
witnessed in our desire to escape from our personal responsibilities and be
looked after by the 'Nanny State'.  This placement, I have to say, is also
representative of our nation's drinking habits, teenage pregnancies, and our
recent appearance at the bottom of the UNICEF league table for child care!
There is a wealth of information in this chart, but as that is a whole essay
on its own, the final observation I would like to make here about our
nation's chart is that the Moon is in a very dynamic aspect with the
maverick of the solar system, Uranus, and also with Chiron (an
astrologically important asteroid with an eccentric orbit), known in myth as
the wounded healer.  This aspect is what gives us our slightly eccentric
nature and produces the classic 'mad inventor' types.   We can sometimes
unexpectedly act out of character and get to produce programmes like Monty
Python, and tend to be at the forefront of contemporary music with our
originality and trend setting.  It doesn't, however, make for a very cuddly
Moon, and this can be witnessed in our attitude towards children – the
classic 'children should be seen and not heard', as illustrated by how
unwelcoming we can be to families in pubs and restaurants.  There is
definitely
something rather detached about our emotional life.
The Chart of 2012
Moving on, then, to explore the chart of 2012, let us see what insights this
chart can bring us.

The Chart of 21st December 2012
Figure 2. Winter Solstice 21st December 2012


I was very excited when I discovered that the time of the 2012 winter
solstice was 11:11 Universal Time (see Fig. 2).  I have been following the
11:11 phenomenon since the early 90s, and am hoping very much that the
evolution of consciousness promised by its devotees will indeed take place!
There is a wealth of information on the significance of the numbers 11:11 on
the internet but, in a nutshell, much of the material comes from the
channelled messages of the US medium Solara, and the underlying theme is
that we are moving away from duality to oneness.  This development is a
global phenomenon, which began in 1992.  The channellings state that eleven
'doorways' will open (the first one opened on 11th January 1992, and the
last one will open on 11th November 2011), and with each opening there will
be a shift in our consciousness.
At this moment of 11:11 on 21st December 2012, the Sun will have just
entered Capricorn and the tenth house and this, I feel, is particularly
significant.  Capricorn is the last of the earth signs, and if we think of
the evolution through the signs, arrival here is when we should have reached
the greatest understanding of this earthly plane and physical reality.  In
Geoff Stray's book, Beyond 2012, he writes extensively about the possible
spiritual and esoteric changes that could take place at this time, so if
there is one astrological sign in which to have an actual manifestation of
an event, it would be very fitting for it to take place in Capricorn.  It is
entirely appropriate, for instance, that – symbolically (i.e. given the date
we choose to celebrate it) - Jesus was born under this sign.  This speaks to
me of the actual physical incarnation of the godhead.  It is worth
contemplating the meaning of the glyph for Capricorn, a creature
half-goat, half-fish, as the coming together of spirit and matter.
Capricorn is an earth sign and therefore all things associated with the
earth will automatically come into focus, and issues with an 'earth theme'
will assume greater importance.  Therefore an increase in earth changes and
natural disasters may very well manifest, not just while the Sun is in
Capricorn, but especially with Pluto, the planet of death and
transformation, transiting through Capricorn from 2008-2024.   We are also
likely to see the whole 'green' movement escalate dramatically over this
period, with the politicisation of issues such as climate change and global
food production.
We can see that Neptune has just moved back into its own sign of Pisces in
2012 (each sign has a 'ruling planet', and Neptune rules Pisces), after its
165-year cycle.  Neptune is associated with the numinous – all those
intangible things, such as the arts and music.  Neptune signifies how we
seek redemption, and gives a deep longing to return to that pre-birth
experience of being merged with 'the source'.
All planets have a dark and a light side, and the problem with sensitive
Neptune is when it finds it too difficult to cope with the harsh reality of
life and all its mundane responsibilities; then it often becomes victim-like
or wants to escape into fantasy or altered states of consciousness, to get
back to the feeling of that pre-incarnated state.  We also have to be very
careful of delusion, deception and confusion when it is so powerfully placed
on the Ascendant of the chart.
Neptune spends approximately fourteen years in each sign, and at the moment
it is in the airy sign of Aquarius.  To give an example of Neptune's
influence on the world during this current period, it is interesting to
observe how we have been seeking that feeling of oneness with others through
the cool detachment of Aquarian technology – the internet and mobile phones
in particular.  We can be in the remotest parts of the world and yet still
feel connected to others.
In 2012, when Neptune enters Pisces, we will then be seeking redemption
through the arts, spirituality, victim/saviour situations, relationship, and
selfless service.  There may well also be the strong urge to transcend our
physical reality.  In fact I have a fantasy that we will no longer need to
use Aquarian technology to feel connected to each other (that is too
rational and emotionally removed for watery Pisces), but rather we will just
naturally develop our psychic abilities.  Pisces needs to feel really merged
with another, and because Neptune is associated with telepathy this could
well be a faculty we all develop strongly over the subsequent fourteen
years.  The last time Neptune was in Pisces there was a huge resurgence in
spiritualism, hypnotism, and the occult in general.
The next interesting point I would like to draw attention to is the Yod, or
'Finger of God', which is quite a rare configuration and is marked by the
green triangle between Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter.  This again emphasises the
spiritual side of this chart.  At the apex is Jupiter, which is associated
with spiritual growth and the expansion of our boundaries.  (Perhaps what is
also worth pointing out here is that Jupiter is more frequently found to be
prominently placed in death charts than Pluto, which is normally associated
with death, hinting at expansion literally out of our physical bodies.)
Jupiter is the big gas giant of the solar system and whatever it touches it
expands that principle.  Astrologically, Jupiter the god imbues hope and
optimism and the desire to become more than what we are.  He gives meaning
to our lives and a vision of the potential for a better future.  Jupiter is
in the sign of Gemini in the third house and both are
associated with communication, the acquisition of knowledge and broadening
of our minds.  Although I believe the 2012 effects may be more gradual than
some are anticipating, Jupiter is nonetheless very appropriately placed if,
as some people believe, we are to witness a dramatic shift in consciousness
taking place on this actual day.
The aspects to Jupiter from the two heavyweights in the Zodiac – Saturn and
Pluto – give the whole thing gravitas.  Pluto contributes a feeling of deep
and permanent transformation, and Saturn brings a seriousness and reality to
it.  However, because of the nature of these planets, it does not suggest
the transition will be easy.
So far I have been quite positive about the potentials in this chart, given
the fact that there are some of the most advantageous positions and aspects
of the planets for the possible and much-anticipated shift in consciousness
and spiritual enlightenment.  However, there is also something far more
sinister gathering momentum, which peaks in 2012, and it is this that
potentially paints quite a different picture.  In fact, I consider this
particular aspect could well be the overriding feature of the year and it
will without a doubt be difficult to navigate.
Throughout the whole of 2012 there will be a very volatile 90 degree
configuration in the heavens between the planets Uranus and Pluto.  These
two planets aren't like the personal inner planets, the energies of which
are much easier to integrate and deal with.  Instead, they weald the
powerful archetypal forces of the transpersonal planets, which bring about
massive and permanent changes in the collective, and sometimes manifest as
catastrophic natural disasters.  It might be helpful to look into the
meaning of these two planets, and what was happening in the world at the
time they were each discovered – always a key feature of the astrological
significance applied to them.
Uranus
Uranus, the planet which rules Aquarius, is the idealistic sky god, always
trying to create the Utopian dream – the perfect system that exists on a
mind level – and if that means shattering the status quo to obtain it, it
will do so whatever the cost.  He wants the perfect Universe, with all
things equal - but his actions are often unpredictable, unconventional and
shocking.
Uranus was accidentally discovered by William Herschel in 1781.  Two
revolutions occurred in the late 1700s – the American and the French – and
the French battle cry of 'Liberty, equality, fraternity, or death!' totally
encapsulates the Uranian spirit coming through into our consciousness at
this time.  Uranus brings sudden enlightenment, a bit like when we suddenly
get those 'Eureka' moments, so you can perhaps see how it is also connected
to electricity, which was first being properly researched around this
time.
In myth, Uranus mated with the great earth goddess, Gaia, and because his
offspring did not meet with his vision of perfection, he could not bear to
set eyes on them, and buried them deep in the earth.  Uranian ideals often
come at a high price because, though fair and humanitarian, he is a sky god
and detached from human emotion.  Think how many people throughout history
have perished in the name of an ideal.
Currently, airy Uranus is transiting through the watery sign of Pisces and
this ordered god is, I think, struggling with the Piscean lack of clear-cut
boundaries, facts and a logical systems.  Uranus constantly seeks answers
through the clear intellect of the mind, and emotional Pisces rules mystery
and illusion.  It is a bit like driving a car along in thick fog – if we put
on the full beam (Uranian light) in the hope of seeing better, we find it
makes things even more unclear!  We can see it everywhere at the moment,
especially in the conspiracy theory world, which has mushroomed all the
while Uranus has been in Pisces.  The urge is so strong in us under this
transit to try and seek that 'Uranian truth' that we are sure must be there,
but I doubt that is entirely possible in this current Piscean world of smoke
and mirrors, with its propensity for deception and lies, fantasy and
self-delusion.  [This aspect is made doubly strong, as Neptune
(the planet which rules the sign of Pisces) is in Aquarius (the sign
normally ruled by Uranus) - a phenomenon known as Mutual Reception.  Neptune
has been in Aquarius since 1998 and enters Pisces in 2011]  When Uranus
moves out of Pisces into Aries in 2010, the fog will lift and there will be
much more clarity and action.
Pluto
Pluto is regarded astrologically as the most powerful planet in the solar
system.  He rules such fundamental themes as birth, death, sex, and
transformation.  He is also the planet of evolution and the bigger cycles in
history, and if pushing those cycles means the annihilation of a species
then, in Pluto's eyes, so be it.  In our psyche, he rules our dark primitive
instinctual nature – our raw unsophisticated emotions that lurk in the
shadow.  When they erupt they threaten to overpower us.  Pluto also rules
the occult and all things hidden and shadowy in society.  I think the reason
we fear Pluto so much is because its potential for creation, death and
destruction is very great.  It requires an incredible degree of
consciousness to use this kind of power constructively for good and not
evil.
When Pluto was discovered in 1930, the world was in crisis.  The Pluto
energy can best be seen in the rise of the Third Reich.  This sadly, but
graphically, shows how the abuse of this kind of energy can be used in its
most destructive and devastating form.  Also at that time, however, we saw a
much more positive manifestation of its potential through the work of
Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung and the birth of depth psychology with the
understanding of the complexities of the unconscious mind.
In myth, when Jupiter had overthrown his father, Saturn, and was dividing up
the spoils, he gave Neptune the rivers and seas and he gave Pluto the
Underworld.  This was not, however, the lesser inheritance, because Pluto's
laws were final and nobody (not even a god) was allowed into his kingdom
without irreversible change through death and without paying his due to
Charon, the boatman who ferried souls across the River Styx.  In the
Underworld lay the greatest treasure, and this is symbolic of the
therapeutic process of transforming our darkest sides into something
constructive and creative.  Shining the light of consciousness onto those
shadowy areas is like finding the 'treasure' of freedom from our complexes,
ultimately gaining enlightenment.
Pluto has been transiting through the sign of Sagittarius since 1995 and
will not leave entirely until the end of 2008.  Sagittarius is the sign
associated with religion, philosophy, higher learning and the 'bigger
picture'.  It is a fiery sign, full of potential and the desire to make an
optimistic journey into the future.  However, with Pluto, the dark lord of
the Underworld, passing through it the future no longer looks so bright.
The 'devil', in whatever guise, now seems even bigger, scarier and darker,
and holds more potential to overpower and control us.
This placement could be interpreted as the death of religion in its current
form, and has certainly contributed to the chaos and strife we are now
experiencing.  Archetypally, death has always been seen as something to be
feared and the religious fundamentalists do not want to face any prospect of
change which might threaten their power.  They are literally fighting to the
death to preserve their own particular faith.
This theme is also accentuated by the fact that we are currently in a
transition seeing the death of the Age of Pisces and the birth of the Age of
Aquarius.  Each Age has gods and religions which reflect the symbolism of
that particular sign of the Zodiac, and maybe the Piscean religions of the
past 2000 years are now in their death throes.  However, until they are
replaced, there is a certain amount of collective fear and trepidation in
not knowing what is coming next.  (Part One of the highly recommended film
Zeitgeist makes further reference to this.)
With Sagittarius, everything is exaggerated and of epic proportions, and is
reflected in the films of this time, such as the Lord of the Rings trilogy
and the Narnia movies, which pick up on the theme of the Age: the
large-scale battle of good against evil.
On a very literal level, another example of Pluto (ruling sex and hidden
things) passing through Sagittarius (ruling religion) is that we have had
the whole issue come to light in the Catholic church of children being
sexually abused, with cover-ups now being exposed.
Uranus and Pluto – An Explosive Combination
Bearing in mind the nature of Uranus and Pluto, you can imagine the cocktail
when these two planets get together in a dynamic aspect.  If we look back in
history at the Uranus/Pluto cycle, this particular one started with a
conjunction of the two in Virgo in the mid 1960s.  The conjunction of two
planets is like seed-planting time, when their conglomerate energies collide
like nuclear fusion and new things are born.   Looking at what was going on
at this time gives us clues as to the potential of these seeds for both good
and ill as the cycle matures.  In the mid 1960s there was huge rebellion
against the establishment, seen in such examples as the American student
riots against the Vietnam war, and the Cultural Revolution in China.  It was
a time of experimentation with psychedelic drugs, the 'sexual revolution'
(Pluto ruling sex and Uranus ruling revolution), and various rebellions
against the social norms of the time as an attempt to
'break out' of restricting, outmoded ways of being.
In 2012, Uranus and Pluto are going to come into their first really
challenging aspect to each other since the 1960s and this will create a
build up of an incredible pressure - of volcanic proportions.  The tension
between the two forces could detonate revolution and rebellion (even
earthquakes, on a physical level), and could bring crashing down what we
thought were established political structures.  This will be especially so,
because Uranus will be in the war-like sign of Aries, and Pluto will be in
Capricorn, which represents authority, the establishment, political
structures and governments.
My vision of one of the possible outcomes of the 'clash of the Titans' is
this:  Our freedoms are gradually and perniciously being eroded away at the
moment and, with Pluto having just moved into Capricorn in January 2008,
governmental control may well become more extreme.  Uranus, particularly
when it moves into Aries in 2010, will no longer be able to tolerate its
freedoms being curtailed and will revolt in a possibly very sudden and
violent way.
Figure 3.  England and the Transits of the 21st December 2012


The Charts of England and 2012 Combined
In Fig. 3 we see the chart of the England on the inside and the chart of
21st December 2012 on the outside.  This then allows us to see if the
transits of the planets in 2012 are making any significant angles or
conjunctions to any of the important points in England's chart.  (This
technique is exactly the same as when a person comes to an astrologer for a
reading to see which planetary influences are reflecting what is going on in
their lives.)
From this combination, I notice - with some trepidation – that Pluto is,
extremely significantly, exactly on England's Midheaven and Sun, while also
squaring Uranus in the twelfth house of the collective.  So all that energy
for revolutionary change will be focusing on our national identity in the
world.  The twelfth house is also about hidden enemies and the 'rebel' could
well emerge suddenly from quite an unexpected source to rise up against
Pluto's power and control, with very serious consequences indeed.
The reason for the rebellion, of course, may also come from different groups
(Uranus rules groups and societies) with their own particular agendas, as it
seems to me people on the whole are often quite reluctant to act unless they
are affected personally.  Interestingly, the Uranus/Pluto cycle is also
connected to the slave trade, and in lots of ways we have a new kind of
slavery today – debt, which begins as soon as a student leaves school and
takes out a loan for their further education, and is then gradually replaced
or added to by high-payment mortgages and other loans, which ensure we are
kept enslaved to the financial system.
The whole religious issue, which has effectively dominated global politics
and the 'War on Terror' for the last decade, is also not going to go away
overnight and may well escalate to an Armageddon-type situation.  When
planets transit through Sagittarius, as Pluto has been doing, it tends to be
in the realm of philosophical thought and the potential of something - it is
only when it enters the sign of Capricorn that those ideas are then
materialised.  There is currently quite a bit in the media about believers
in 'End Times', highlighting how an awful lot of people are trying their
hardest to make this rather frightening day-of-judgment scenario a
reality.
Pluto on the Midheaven of England's chart will certainly bring power to our
nation, and seeing this makes me understand why England, in a strangely
fated way, won the bid for the 2012 Olympic Games when it seemed so against
the odds.  When a person has a Pluto transit like this, they often come into
their power and are thrust into the limelight; a good example of this was
when Margaret Thatcher came to power.  So it is interesting that all the
world's eyes will be on England in the summer of 2012.
Mentioning Prime Ministers, I believe that David Cameron could well be the
person in power in 2012, because he was born under the conjunction of
Uranus/Pluto in 1966 and will be so very familiar with these energies.
Potentially, he could be the one to best steer the nation through its
transition.
9/11: An Example of Pluto in Action
To demonstrate the sort of effects a Pluto transit can have when it hits a
sensitive spot on a country's chart, I refer you to Fig. 4, the chart of the
USA (shown on the inside) seen with the transits of the planets at the
moment of the first attack on the World Trade Centre on 9/11 (shown on the
outside).  At this time Pluto had arrived right on the Ascendant of
America's chart and this can literally be interpreted as the dark lord of
the Underworld,  bringing death and destruction to the face of America.
Astrology can sometimes be incredibly literal in its symbolism, as is
demonstrated by the fact that Pluto was opposite Saturn in Gemini in the
heavens at this time: Saturn represents physical structures (think of the
World Trade Centre buildings themselves) and rules such things as financial
institutions, status and authority; and Mercurial Gemini (just look at the
glyph for Gemini!) represents commerce and trade.  Indeed, the World Trade
Centre was the centre for world capitalism.  Pluto opposite Saturn does not
necessarily have to wreak such catastrophic havoc, but, as I indicated
earlier, it does require an enormous amount of consciousness to deal with
this type of energy.
Figure 4.  The USA and the First Attack on the World Trade Centre

Pluto transits are all about the use and abuse of power and control, often
through fear (whether we own that power and use it well, or whether we feel
utterly powerless and at the mercy of our fears, or controlled by others).
9/11 could have been a wonderful opportunity for America to look at its own
dark side and how it wields its power and control over other nations.  The
interpretation would work exactly the same if this were a person; if we do
not recognise our own dark side we can be quite sure we'll meet it (often
rather unpleasantly) in an external form.  America projected its own
darkness out onto Al Qaeda rather than battling its own demons much closer
to home.  And, of course with Pluto being representative of hidden things,
the growing numbers of people who believe the attacks could not have
happened without inside US help may also have something to say about this.
The amount of  control the US government has now been able to exert
over its people – with knock-on effects around the world – in the name of
'fighting terror' and securing the nation leaves an uncomfortable taste in
the mouths of some.
We can use Pluto's potency for powerful transformation and to change
ourselves for the better, or we can choose to only see the 'bad' in others
and demonise them.  America wants us to believe it is the 'Land of the Free'
- democratic and fair - and that all the opposite traits reside in the enemy
'out there'.  Sadly, we can only use our imaginations to picture a different
and more consciousness-raising scenario than the one that actually did occur
in the wake of 9/11, perhaps one with America taking a brutal look at its
own foreign policy, seeing where there could be fundamental changes made for
the good of the world, and implementing them.  This is perhaps a naïve hope,
considering where we are in reality in the evolution of consciousness.
Sometimes, therefore, maybe we do unfortunately have to suffer catastrophic
and painful events as a wake-up call and to force the creation of a new
consciousness.  Sometimes in our own personal
lives we experience challenging crises, but it is those who do not take the
stance of being just an innocent victim and instead look at the situation as
an opportunity for self-awareness and growth through examining their own
part that are the ones who become more enlightened, wiser and mature.
2012 Hotspot
I decided to scan the whole year of 2012 astrologically to see when would be
the most dangerous hotspots, and it would appear that June is the most
tension-ridden month of the year (see Fig. 5).  Here I have put the June
Full Moon chart around the chart of the UK, because Full Moons and New Moons
heighten whatever tensions are in the air, and often cause a physical
manifestation of an event.  What makes it so potentially explosive is that
Mars, the god of war, is now thrown into the equation by landing exactly on
the nation's Saturn, representing our stability, structure, and also our
defences, and being at the apex of the T-square (90 degrees) with the
Sun/Moon opposition.  Incidentally, the London bombings on 7 July 2005 were
on the New Moon, which was similarly in a square (90 degrees) aspect to
Mars.  So this is again a graphic example of the type of aggressive act that
can be perpetrated under such an aspect.
Figure 5. The UK and the June Full Moon 2012


Opportunities for Growth
With the Uranus/Pluto square in 2012 there will again be another opportunity
for growth.  How painful or traumatic this process will prove to be depends
so much on what happens between now and 2012.  In lots of ways we are
already experiencing the affects associated with the whole 2012 phenomenon.
When I look around me, I see people struggling enormously with difficult
issues that seem to be coming up thick and fast for them, as if on some
level we are tuning into the urgency of having to wake up to a new way of
being.  It is up to us how we embrace those challenges, but I do not believe
there are any fast-track methods to enlightenment.  It may be easier for
some, but for most of us it is a long and painful process involving deep
inner work and soul searching.   I would like to think we could reach the
consciousness necessary for a positive change, but that could be a tall
order for people to gain the kind of self-awareness necessary before
2012.
However, many people do believe we could get a helping hand in this regard.
The Sun will be exactly positioned  at 'Galactic Centre' in 2012 and some
believe we will then be more open to the energies of pulsing galactic
super-waves (see other articles on the Diagnosis 2012 website, and in Geoff
Stray's Beyond 2012).  This may activate our pineal gland, which could, in
turn, raise our vibrational frequencies to much higher levels - and possibly
take us into new dimensions altogether.
Uranus is associated with the myth of Prometheus, who had a special affinity
with mankind because he made them from the dirt under his fingernails and
his own tears.  Zeus did not want mankind to become enlightened through
having fire, because then they would achieve a godlike status and that was
threatening to him.  However, Prometheus disobeyed Zeus and though he knew
the price would be high, he stole fire from the smith-god Hephaistos and
gave it to mankind, thus bringing them the light of consciousness.  Zeus
severely punished Prometheus by chaining him up in the Caucasus mountains.
Each day an eagle came down and pecked out his liver, and each night it grew
back in an endless suffering.  To me this is analogous with how those people
who try to tear down the veils of hypocrisy, deception and lies in search of
the truth, in the hope of illuminating mankind, are being 'punished'.  But
sometimes this is the sort of sacrifice that has to be
undertaken for the good of mankind.  At least after thirty years (though
some say 30,000 years!) Prometheus was finally released from his suffering.
The best thing we can do is to work on ourselves to improve our own personal
integrity, honesty, discernment and, most of all with Uranus in Pisces,
compassion for each other in this struggle.  Then, and only then, can we
gain the wisdom necessary to be an example to the rest of society, and
especially to our children.  The more people who can do this, the more it
will become mainstream, eventually creating a radical shift in the
collective consciousness of mankind.
Conclusions and Solutions
Lastly, I would like to draw on myth again to try and help give us some
clues for a way forward in all this.  When Gaia (Mother Earth) wearied of
Uranus being repulsed by their offspring and consequently burying them, she
employed her son, Saturn, to castrate him as he slept.  When he carried
Uranus' severed bleeding genitals down to the shore and cast them into the
sea, he inadvertently fertilised the ocean.  Thus, up rose Venus (or
Aphrodite) – the goddess of love – out of the foaming brine.
This would suggest to me that we have to accept we live in an imperfect
world and that the Uranian vision of perfection, as seen through the cool
unfeeling eyes of masculine logic, has to be balanced by Gaia's earth wisdom
- otherwise the darker side of the feminine will rise up and brutally
retaliate.  It is interesting to me that it is Venus who is the end product
of this story, insinuating that it is indeed love that offers the resolution
in the end.  It is worth noting how there could be dire consequences by
neglecting the feminine archetype in all our hopes and fears for what 2012
might bring, and both men and women would do well to heed this.
It is said that there were only two things the gods required from mankind -
and these are inscribed above the temple at Delphi.  The first is 'Man know
thyself', and the second is 'Nothing in excess'.  I leave it to you to
contemplate how well you think we have fared in this regard since those
ancient times!
Helen Sewell
May 2008
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World-Class Astrobiologist Says "NASA's Hiding Current Life on Mars!"


By Richard C. Hoagland and Mike Bara
(c) 2008 The Enterprise Mission


Just a few weeks ago (May 25th ...), NASA landed its latest unmanned
spacecraft -- the Phoenix Mission -- on the surface of the planet Mars, this
time near the Red Planet's North Pole (below).



The name "Phoenix" covers a host of metaphorical allusions familiar to this
readership; the NASA Phoenix Mission (which now officially ends with the
coming of Martian Winter in Mars' Northern Hemisphere, on September 30,
2008) has two official goals:


"... to study the history of water and [the] habitability potential in the
Martian arctic's ice-rich soil ...."

Note that this latest NASA mission was NOT (again!) specifically equipped
"to search for life on Mars," but only conditions "favorable for life."
To that end, the Phoenix lander carries a complement of six scientific
instruments -- ranging from two digital color cameras (one in stereo), to a
robotic sampler arm (below) -- the latter designed for digging in the soil
and conveying samples of that soil to two of those six instruments, the ones
involving detailed chemical analysis ....



Unfortunately (by accident ... design?), these two instruments cannot
directly sense the presence of such potental Martian life forms in that soil
(with one potential caveat ...), but only the chemical prerequisites of such
potential life ... and ... some of its calculated by-products -- should they
currently exist.
The "caveat" is the presence of a high-powered microscope (one of two
on-board, actually - see image, below) -- this one associated with the "wet
chemistry" experiment (known as "MECA"); by use of this powerful optical
microscope, if there were living bacterial or microbial life forms present
in the sampled Martian soil, they could visually be seen ... especially ...
if they moved between successive downlinked images!
(Displayed below are several small sand particles imaged by the microscope,
after the initial soil collection for the MECA.)



Of the aforementioned "prerequisites" for Martian life forms ... the one
that Phoenix is most interested in is water.

* * *

Thus, it was with some fanfare that NASA, on July 31, 2008, officially
announced that Phoenix had finally, chemically, detected liquid water in its
Martian arctic soils (as melted ice ...) -- making this, at least, the fifth
time that "detection of water on Mars" has been officially announced by
NASA!
This occasion, however, was quite different:
A Phoenix lander chemistry instrument (called "TEGA") physically "tasted"
this crucial Martian water -- leaving no doubt as to its presence; previous
NASA "water announcements" had been based on remote sensing -- from a
variety of spacecraft photographs of Mars, taken from high orbit -- images
which present a great diversity of visual circumstantial evidence for the
former existence of "a great flood of running on water on the Planet Mars"
... but not "when" it might have been there.
The TEGA insituwater measurements left no doubt: there is a vast amount of
frozen water in the arctic latitudes on Mars ... right NOW.
Thus, the first major "life question" that Phoenix so elegantly answered was
confirmation of the existence of current water in the soil -- which, of
course, could then be used by any current Martian microbes that might be
living in that soil!
With reference to the "habitability" part of Phoenix' scientific mandate,
NASA had made an earlier announcement (even before its confirmation of the
water ...) on June 27, 2008, regarding the nature of the soil itself ...
retrieved from one of its excavated trenches and analyzed by the on-board
MECA instrument (the white flecks visible at the bottom of those trenches --
below -- are exposed layers of frozen Martian ice lying just beneath the
surface soils.)



To quote the NASA scientist conducting this first, extremely provocative
"Martian arctic soil habitability analysis":


""We're flabbergasted by this data," said Sam Kounaves, the lead scientist
for the wet chemistry experiment on the Phoenix spacecraft, which landed May
25 on Mars. "We've found nutrients that could support life" [emphasis added]
...."

This was then followed by my (Hoagland's) favorite all-time "Martian" quote:


"... you might be able to grow asparagus very well [on Mars]," Kounaves said
[emphasis added].

However, one day following the release of the Phoenix water confirmation, on
July 31st, rumors began to circulate "... NASA is holding something back."
Craig Covault, Senior Editor of "AvWeek" (Aviation Week and Space Technology
-- the "bible" of the aerospace industry) reported in an August 1 story:


"The White House has been alerted by NASA about plans to make an
announcement soon on major new Phoenix lander discoveries concerning the
"potential for life" on Mars, scientists tell Aviation Week & Space
Technology.
"Sources say the new data do not indicate the discovery of existing or past
life on Mars. Rather the data relate to habitability -- the 'potential' for
Mars to support life -- at the Phoenix arctic landing site, sources say.
"The data are much more complex than results related NASA's July 31
announcement that Phoenix has confirmed the presence of water ice at the
site ...."

A few days later, NASA held (according to some reporters) a "non-news ...
news conference" -- announcing the detection of a curious additional
chemical in both of its earlier soil analyses: something called
"perchlorate"; the perchlorate molecule consists of four oxygen atoms
surrounding a central chlorine atom. With its discovery, concern was
expressed in some news stories that "perchlorates" (which can weakly oxidize
organic materials) reduced the previously-announced soil's "habitability for
life."
Not so, said Sam Kounaves.
According to an MSNBC report, on the specifics from the NASA "perchlorate"
news briefing -- by Science Editor, Alan Boyle:


"... Tufts University's Sam Kounaves, a member of the MECA team, said he
still thought asparagus would grow well in soil from Mars, even with the
perchlorate. 'At this point, I still don't have any reason why it wouldn't,'
he told msnbc.com [emphasis added] ...."

It was this "curious neutrality" of the announced new discovery -- not
tipping the balance either way in the on-going quest for "life on Mars" (so
... why have a news conference -- which is supposed to be about "news?") --
which caused some reporters to suspect that there was, indeed, another story
lurking in the wings ... pressaged by Covault's earlier reporting of a
secret "White House NASA Mars briefing ..."
Another, hidden story -- which the hurriedly-called NASA "perchlorate news
conference" was actually designed to deflect attention from ....

* * *

Then, ten days following this "perchlorate press conference," the Indo-Asian
News Services abruptly published a remarkable interview with a world-class
Indian astronomer and biologist -- "astrobiologist" Chandra Wickramasinghe
-- who said, unambiguously:


"... the [recently confirmed] discovery of liquid water on Mars, combined
with earlier discoveries of organic substances in a meteorite that came from
Mars, and also of methane in the Martian atmosphere, all point to the
existence of life -- contemporary life -- on the Red Planet [emphasis added]
...."



Chandra Wickramasinghe, among other things, was the inspiration for a key
character in Arthur C. Clarke's provocative sequel to "2001: A Space
Odyssey," "2010 - Odyssey Two."
In that same Indo-Asian News Service interview, Wickramasinghe then -- quite
courageously -- also calmly asserted that NASA is deliberately withholding
this explosive information "... for political and sociological
considerations."
In other words ... because of "Brookings!"
He then went on to remind everyone that this is NOT a "recent story," but
goes back to the seminal work of Dr. Gil Levin, head of the original Viking
"Labeled Release Experiment" -- whose pioneering soil analysis on Mars in
1976 came back positive for life ... over thirty years ago!; yet, NASA has
subsequently, consistently, insisted that Levin's results are NOT legitimate
-- a conclusion based on the inability of another Viking instrument (the
"GCMS") to find any "organics" (the "dead bodies" from current Martian life
...) in that same soil.
It has since been proven, however, via tests undertaken in similar dry soils
in Antarctica -- demonstrably containing, fro other tests, abundant
microorganisms -- that the Viking "organic detection experiment" was
seriously flawed; it could NOT detect "the dead bodies" from some prohected
levels of living populations of Martian microorganisms ("The Missing Organic
Molecules On Mars" -- published in the PROCEEDINGS OF THE NATIONAL ACADEMY
OF SCIENCES, Vol. 97, p 2425, March 18, 2000) .... It even had difficulty
detecting certain type of key organics from those organisms -- even if
present in significant amounts -- within its tested Martian soils!
Yet, despite this conflicting scientific evidence (some of it obtained even
before the launch of Viking ...), NASA has still taken every opportunity --
across more than 30 years -- to marginalize Levin's astonishing, positive
"life detection" results from his successful experiment on Mars.
Results such as ....
In 2000, a circadian biologist and neuroscientist from Texas Tech
University, Dr. Joseph Miller, digging through old Viking data, announced
that there may be completely unappreciated circadian rhythms in Levin Viking
biology results (below)--


"... I was completely astounded to see oscillations in the Labeled Release
experiment with a period of one Martian SOL [Martian day]" Miller said
[emphasis added].



Circadian rhythms are metabolic cycles indicative of living organisms, that
(on Earth ...) take about 24 hours to complete from start to finish. Myriad
"circadian rhythm experiments" in the 1950's and 1960's established that
these biological cycles are remarkable resilient -- capable of being
maintained across a range of external environmental factors, even in total
darkness and in total isolation from all other outside influences ....
Miller's provisional identification of Martian day-length circadian rhythms,
emmenating from possible Martian microorgansims living in the soil samples
that Levin was anayzing within his Viking instrument ... on Mars ... was
potentially historic ....
It was for all these reasons that one of us (Hoagland) announced before the
Denver Libertarian Party National Nominating Convention, the evening Phoenix
landed safely on the Red Planet (May 25th) that, "for political reasons"
NASA would likely announce -- before the November, 2008 Elections -- that it
had (finally!) "discovered life on Mars."



He repeated this daring prediction one day later ... on May 26, 2008 -- to
George Noory and the national radio audience of "Coast to Coast AM."



Three months later, Chandra Wickramasinghe -- completely independently --
would also directly accuse NASA of sitting on such data "... essentially
from as long ago as Viking ... from 30 years ago!"
Which would make it possible for NASA to "discover" Martian life now any
time it was politically expedient to do so--
Possibly, as early as this coming Fall ...

* * *

What NASA seems to be waiting for ... before it makes its "Big Announcement"
... are the results of the second "life prerequisite" experiment: the
independent Phoenix search, with 30 years more sensitive equipment (down to
"10 parts per billion ..."), for those same, critical organic molecules that
Viking failed to find three decades ago.
That crucial detection of "organics" -- the remains of once-living Martian
microorganisms, now decomposing in the soils around the Phoenix lander --
would be the clincher ... and the trigger for the Big Announcement; as such,
it could come literally any day ... if such a detection hasn't already been
achieved and then quietly briefed to the Bush White House--
Exactly as Craig Covault's controversial AvWeek article suggested, weeks
ago!
Picture that: the Bush White House ... waiting ... for "the Perfect
Political Timing"--
To make its own "History-Changing Mars Announcment"--
In this iconic "Year of Change" ....
Significantly, in this same time-frame, several other "curious events"
around this subject have also taken place--
The first was a remarkable public statement by William Shatner (Captain
Kirk!), during an on-line video interview regarding Star Trek -- taped just
before the Phoenix spacecraft arrived at Mars.
Said Shatner, in answer to a question "Do you believe in extraterrestrial
life?"--


"... I will let you in on a little secret, that I have been told not to
reveal ... so I wont reveal who told me. But, there is going to be new
information about Mars. It wont be too long away [emphasis added] ...."

I mean, if you're going to leak the imminent announcement of "life on Mars"
(!) ... who more perfect to leak to ... than "the Captain of the Enterprise
...?"



The second "curious development" was an equally remarkable phone call I
received about a month after Phoenix had sucessfully begun carrying out its
various experiments ... from one of my long-time " intel sources."
According to this source, the White House had just had a quiet meeting --
regarding "when" to announce "NASA confirmation of life in the Martian soil"
from Phoenix. According to this source, the issue was NOT that NASA "had
just discovered life from Phoenix"; what it was discussing with the White
House was when would be the most "leveraged time" in this political season
to announce such a discovery ... and "blame it" on the Phoenix Mission!
What was remarkable about this call was the fact that it literally came
weeks before Craig Covault reported independently on a similar "mysterious
White House Mars Briefing ..." -- in his controversial (and later, much
denied by NASA ...) AvWeek report!
What made all this really special was the fact that the same source also
said (and in this same phone call ...) that both presidential campaigns --
McCain's and Obama's -- had just had similar briefings (part of the normal
"national security" procedures for every about-to-be-elected president). And
that McCain (because of his 26 years of Senate Armed Services and
Intelligence Committtee experience ...) already knew most of what the
briefing told him. The problem (so I was, again, "informed" ...) was with
Obama:
He didn't know whether to believe the briefing!
Obama's major concern (according to this phone call) -- given the
mind-blowing, "history-changing" nature of the information (for most
Americans ...) -- was that he was being "gamed" by the Bush White House ...
in a (literal) "mind-blowing attempt to set him up" ... for some kind of
"credibility problem" in the campaign later on!
However, within weeks of this alledged "life on Mars" briefing, both
candidates began making extemely supportive, public statements regarding
NASA and its proposed "Constellation Program" to go back to the Moon; in
Obama's case, this was a definite, startling, 180-degree shift in policy
from his previous well-known position (that he would delay current NASA
plans to return to the Moon, and devote the resourcs instead to
"education").
Obama was now suddenly proposing an additional $2 billion in annual funding
for NASA, and ... just as suddenly ... also publicly supporting a manned
mission to Mars, after "returning to the Moon!"
Clearly, "something" pretty dramatic must have happened ....
It would be nice to claim that we were, in fact, a bit responsible for this
"sea change"; that the White Paper (below) we had specifically written this
Spring to inform all the candidates re the "National Treasure" that is NASA
-- that the Space Agency could represent once again ... if properly managed
and utilized by a new, visionary president -- had gotten through ....



We do know for a fact that the Enterprise White Paper was delivered to all
the candidates this Spring -- with copies personally handed to Hillary
Clinton and former President Bill Clinton by a "most trusted source." Other
copies were delivered to both Obama and McCain, by other "personal
messengers" ....
But the reality is, that an official campaign briefing by the White House --
on the imminent announcement of "other living creatures in the solar system
..." -- was probably a tad more persuasive to their thinking ....

* * *

All this "cloak and dagger" stuff will, of course, be quite familiar to
readers of Dark Mission -- which lays out virtually the same case for NASA
deliberately hiding "all the good stuff" -- not just microbial life on Mars,
but artificial ruins ... and, all across the solar system! -- in its heavily
footnoted 550 pages.



The only significant area of disagreement between our premise, regarding
wide-spread deceit by NASA -- and, Dr. Wickramasinghe's separate and
courageous indictment of NASA's deliberate withholding of the most amazing
evidence of current "life on Mars" -- is that the good doctor still clings
to the "honest but stupid" model of NASA's (otherwise, to him) "inexplicable
behavior."
While, we know that NASA is operating -- as it has been for fifty years --
on a carefully calculated, "timed release aspirin," national security model
-- dictated (in part) by the paranoid excuses framed by "the Brookings
Report."
Augmented -- this unique year -- by Karl Rove's converging campaign
calculations ....
So as to bring maximum political advantage, regarding this extraordinary new
Reality, to ... John McCain.
Stay tuned.

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#46380 From: "iren_cz@..." <irenczajka62@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 10:26 pm
Subject: Fwd: Don't say a word, ...Billy's UFO blog
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I have had the 'feeling' for awhile now, that the triangular craft  are of
this world... any one else?
Billy's UFOs / Aliens Blog
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http://ufos.about.com/b/2008/08/27/dont-say-a-word.htm

"Don't Say a Word."
Wednesday August 27, 2008

With all of the recent sightings in Great Britain,
a woman has come forward with a story which casts doubt on the UK
government's alleged propensity for openness about UFO events. At
least, 29 years ago, and I don't think there has been any change
lately.
In a letter to the editor of the East London Advertiser, she
recounts her experience, which occurred when she was a student nurse at
a hospital in Leicestershire:
"The object appeared to hover above a hedge, glowing red. A
white hot plume came from one end of the object, and I could hear a
droning noise. To this day, I remain puzzled because the object was
above me, quite low in the sky, I cannot remember seeing it move from
above the hedge line."
"I got a real close look as it passed over me, clearly it was a
triangle shape with lights at each point, a raised area from the tip to
the middle of the other end, with a raised disc shape in the middle.
Then whoosh! It was away faster than anything I had ever seen."
The Ministry of Defence visited the woman after she reported
her sighting. They showed a great interest in her account, even asking
her to make drawings of what she had seen. The lady was startled
however, when she was instructed not to tell anyone what she had seen
that night. She was told only that there had been other reports of the
object that very night. She never heard from the Mod again.
This instruction causes me to wonder why. Was this event of
great significance? Or, was the government testing some secret
triangle-shaped object that night? I am trying to find more details of
this case, but so far, I have come up empty. What do you think?

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#46381 From: Exopolitics <exopolitics@...>
Date: Wed Sep 3, 2008 12:58 am
Subject: Scientist claims Mars has 'contemporary' life
exopolitics
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Scientist claims Mars has 'contemporary' life
Indo-Asian News Service
Sunday, August 10, 2008, (London)  A
leading international space scientist says there is now clear evidence
of life on Mars but that American authorities are hesitating from
announcing it for political reasons.

"The discovery of liquid
water on Mars combined with earlier discoveries of organic substances
in a meteorite that came from Mars, and also of methane in the Martian
atmosphere all point to the existence of life -- contemporary life --
on the Red Planet," said Chandra Wickramasinghe, a globally renowned
astrobiologist.

"I am not speaking of fossilized life but
contemporary life," emphasised Wickramasinghe, who is professor of
applied mathematics and astronomy at the University of Cardiff in Wales.

Wickramasinghe,
a student and collaborator of the late British astronomer Sir Fred
Hoyle, spoke to London-based Sri Lankan diplomat and journalist Walter
Jayawardhana, who made the text of the interview available to IANS.

Wickramasinghe,
an internationally-respected astrobiologist, is also a leading advocate
of a theory known as Panspermia, which suggests that all planets have
been seeded for life by microbes from outer space and is thought to be
a minority-view among scientists.

Wickramasinghe's associate
Hoyle, a Cambridge scientist who was controversially overlooked for the
Nobel Prize, was also the PhD guide of Indian astrophysicist Jayant
Narlikar.

Hoyle's co-worker William Alfred Fowler won a 1983
Nobel along with the Indian-origin scientist Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
for their work on neucleosynthesis -- a concept that was established by
Hoyle in 1946.

In his interview, Wickramasinghe said the
discovery of subsurface water ice in the north polar regions of Mars --
announced July 31 by US scientists -- combined with earlier
developments leads him to believe there is life on Mars.

"Even as early as 1976, when the two NASA space probes, Viking 1 and Viking 2,
landed on Mars, experiments carried out in situ pointed strongly to the
existence of active microbial life.

"In one experiment nutrient broth was poured onto a sample of Martian soil, and
it frothed up so vigorously exuding carbon dioxide, that a positive detection of
life might have been inferred.

"But
when the NASA scientists looked for organic material, the detritus of
living organisms, around the landing site, their experiments yielded
negative or ambiguous results. So NASA cautiously concluded, 'no
organics means no life detected'.

"But 32 years on, my friend
Gil Levin, who was principal investigator on this project maintains
that life on Mars was indeed detected in 1976! The experiments of 1976
to detect the dead bodies and decomposition products of bacteria were simply not
sensitive enough," Wickramasinghe told Jayawardhana.

The Cardiff University astrobiologist said the delay in announcing life on Mars
has little to do with science.

"I think there could be political and sociological considerations at work," he
said.

"Firstly, if life was already detected, then there is no need to spend vast sums
of money to continue the search.

"Secondly, there is a lot of scientific interest nowadays in bringing back
samples of Martian soil to Earth at
the cost of tens of billions of dollars, and there is a lobby that says
if microbes exist on Mars we should not be doing this. It could pose a
biohazard."

Wickramasinghe said authorities might be deterred
by prospects of litigation arising from Planetary Protection -- the
guiding principle in the design of interplanetary missions that aims to
prevent biological contamination of both the target celestial body and
the Earth.

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#46382 From: Exopolitics <exopolitics@...>
Date: Wed Sep 3, 2008 6:02 am
Subject: Another ET ballot bid lands at Denver City Hall
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Another ET ballot bid lands at Denver City Hall
By Daniel J. Chacon, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Originally published 12:02 p.m., September 2, 2008
Updated 12:02 p.m., September 2, 2008

Photo by Barry Gutierrez
Jeff
Peckman says his goals are "clean air, healthy organic food, healthy
buildings, harmony among the different populations on our planet - and
the populations not from our planet."
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What is this?
Extraterrestrials are invading Denver City Hall again this week.
A proposed ballot initiative to create an Extraterrestrial Affairs
Commission in the Mile High City has been revised, triggering another
mandatory review and comment hearing with city officials.
The hearing will be at 3 p.m. Thursday in Room 391 of the City and County
Building, 1437 Bannock St.
Jeff Peckman, who is sponsoring the proposed initiative, which he
plans to place on the May 2009 ballot, said the revamped proposal
ensures that commission members will be more knowledgeable about
extraterrestrials.
"We've set the bar higher for the people that would be on the commission," he
said.
The commission would now be comprised of seven members, not 11, and
they don't have to be Denver residents but from "anywhere in the
universe."
In addition, the selection criteria is now more stringent, he said.
"These changes will ensure that the commission produces much greater
benefit for the city of Denver because they'll all be people who are
extremely knowledgeable about the subject of extraterrestrial
civilizations, of extraterrestrial craft," he said.
The initial proposal would have required the mayor to appoint
representatives from the departments of safety and human services, the
Office of Cultural Affairs and a member of the Denver City Council.
"It would have been a mandate to the mayor to appoint people who may
or may not actually want to be on the commission," Peckman said. "We
wanted it to be purely voluntary."
Peckman, who has gained some notoriety because of his proposal, said
there's been a "huge shift" toward a more open and serious discussion
about extraterrestrials.
"It's important that we move beyond the discussion of whether or not
any of these UFOs are from extraterrestrial origin because they clearly
are," he said.
"We need to start getting down to the more serious questions of why
they're here, how can we interact peacefully and productively with
them," Peckman said.
Subscribe to the Rocky Mountain News

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#46383 From: mike ceranko <cerankoman@...>
Date: Wed Sep 3, 2008 3:31 am
Subject: Re: Fwd: Don't say a word, ...Billy's UFO blog
cerankoman
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The triangles are ours. Look at the stealth its a triangle. TR-3B : code-named :
Astra
There are a few of these. One is as big as three football fields and can launch
a ship into space from high altitude.

 




















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#46384 From: mike ceranko <cerankoman@...>
Date: Wed Sep 3, 2008 3:34 am
Subject: Re: Scientist claims Mars has 'contemporary' life
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Of course there is water on Mars. Bacteria too. Titan has a whole sea of ice and
its melting whoo hoo. Old news.

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Subject: [prepare4contact] Scientist claims Mars has 'contemporary' life
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             Source: http://www.ndtv. com/convergence/ ndtv/story.
aspx?id=NEWEN200 80060938



Scientist claims Mars has 'contemporary' life

Indo-Asian News Service

Sunday, August 10, 2008, (London)  A

leading international space scientist says there is now clear evidence

of life on Mars but that American authorities are hesitating from

announcing it for political reasons.



"The discovery of liquid

water on Mars combined with earlier discoveries of organic substances

in a meteorite that came from Mars, and also of methane in the Martian

atmosphere all point to the existence of life -- contemporary life --

on the Red Planet," said Chandra Wickramasinghe, a globally renowned

astrobiologist.



"I am not speaking of fossilized life but

contemporary life," emphasised Wickramasinghe, who is professor of

applied mathematics and astronomy at the University of Cardiff in Wales.



Wickramasinghe,

a student and collaborator of the late British astronomer Sir Fred

Hoyle, spoke to London-based Sri Lankan diplomat and journalist Walter

Jayawardhana, who made the text of the interview available to IANS.



Wickramasinghe,

an internationally- respected astrobiologist, is also a leading advocate

of a theory known as Panspermia, which suggests that all planets have

been seeded for life by microbes from outer space and is thought to be

a minority-view among scientists.



Wickramasinghe' s associate

Hoyle, a Cambridge scientist who was controversially overlooked for the

Nobel Prize, was also the PhD guide of Indian astrophysicist Jayant

Narlikar.



Hoyle's co-worker William Alfred Fowler won a 1983

Nobel along with the Indian-origin scientist Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar

for their work on neucleosynthesis -- a concept that was established by

Hoyle in 1946.



In his interview, Wickramasinghe said the

discovery of subsurface water ice in the north polar regions of Mars --

announced July 31 by US scientists -- combined with earlier

developments leads him to believe there is life on Mars.



"Even as early as 1976, when the two NASA space probes, Viking 1 and Viking 2,
landed on Mars, experiments carried out in situ pointed strongly to the
existence of active microbial life.



"In one experiment nutrient broth was poured onto a sample of Martian soil, and
it frothed up so vigorously exuding carbon dioxide, that a positive detection of
life might have been inferred.



"But

when the NASA scientists looked for organic material, the detritus of

living organisms, around the landing site, their experiments yielded

negative or ambiguous results. So NASA cautiously concluded, 'no

organics means no life detected'.



"But 32 years on, my friend

Gil Levin, who was principal investigator on this project maintains

that life on Mars was indeed detected in 1976! The experiments of 1976

to detect the dead bodies and decomposition products of bacteria were simply not
sensitive enough," Wickramasinghe told Jayawardhana.



The Cardiff University astrobiologist said the delay in announcing life on Mars
has little to do with science.



"I think there could be political and sociological considerations at work," he
said.



"Firstly, if life was already detected, then there is no need to spend vast sums
of money to continue the search.



"Secondly, there is a lot of scientific interest nowadays in bringing back
samples of Martian soil to Earth at

the cost of tens of billions of dollars, and there is a lobby that says

if microbes exist on Mars we should not be doing this. It could pose a

biohazard."



Wickramasinghe said authorities might be deterred

by prospects of litigation arising from Planetary Protection -- the

guiding principle in the design of interplanetary missions that aims to

prevent biological contamination of both the target celestial body and

the Earth.



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