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Re: primes as primes/integers with even digits divided by two

Hi Zak and all

This is pretty cool. On cursory inspection your sequence looks fine.
Personally I found the first sequence more interesting. In the
numbers you provided in the first sequence, a curiousity: if the
digits of a number are added up and have an odd sum then the sum is
prime. So I checked for more of these numbers up to 1,000
(which are 587, 607, 613, 617, 631, 653, 659, 661, 673, 769, 809,
829, 839, 857, 863, 883, 929 and 967) and the rule still holds! But
surely that is too good to be true for long!

While looking at primes with even digits, could it be that
3,5,7,11,13,17,19 is the largest string of consecutive primes with
entirely odd digits?

The numbers 653,659,661 and 673 are consecutive primes which meet the
criteria of your first sequence. I wonder if there is a larger
string of consecutive primes which would be in your sequence. (hehe)


Mark






--- In primenumbers@yahoogroups.com, "Zak Seidov" <seidovzf@y...>
wrote:
>
> 1. These are several first primes with at least one non_zero even
> digit which remain primes after dividing the even digits by two:
>
>
23,29,43,61,67,83,167,223,239,251,257,269,293,367,389,421,433,439,443,
> 449,457,463,541 (A086060?)
>
> From the first 1,000,000 primes, 153043 are such, and the largest
is
> 15485807 -> 15245407.
>
> Are these primes known?
>
> 2. If one looks for "integers with at least one non_zero even
> which become primes after dividing the even digits by two",
>
> here they are (A086059?)
>
>
4,6,12,16,21,22,23,26,27,29,32,43,46,49,56,61,62,67,72,76,81,82,83,86,
> 87,102,106,116,123,126,
>
> From the first 1,000,000 integers, 114266 are such, and the
largest
> is 999962 -> 999931.
>
> Thanks for your comments,
> Zak
>
> PS Learned from my first postings (and many thanks to Mike Oakes,
> and to Mark Underwood) I'll wait for your help before sending these
> sequences to OEIS,
>
> many thanks again,
> Zak




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1. These are several first primes with at least one non_zero even digit which remain primes after dividing the even digits by two: ...
Zak Seidov
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Hi Zak and all This is pretty cool. On cursory inspection your sequence looks fine. Personally I found the first sequence more interesting. In the numbers you...
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Jul 8, 2003
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Well I guess it turns out that an odd sum just never seems to have a factor of 3 for some reason. I just checked primes between 9000 and 10,000, and (just) one...
Mark Underwood
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I'm embarrassed to say that I was serious about what I wrote below. It took Zac to gently inform me that, well, any number which is divisible by three has a...
Mark Underwood
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... No, if my quick heuristic estimator is on track, it is likely that one can find arbitrarily large such runs of odd-digit-only primes. And in fact, the...
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I like your quick heuristic estimator better than mine Jack ... can I get an upgrade? :) I was actually quite surprised that there was a bigger one. I think ...
Mark Underwood
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... The first case of at least 9 also has 10: 379537751 379537757 379537771 379537777 379537793 379537931 379537933 379537957 379537979 379537999 This is the...
Jens Kruse Andersen
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Amazing! So the jump was made. If the data is any indication, it seems that maximum n consecutive odd digit primes takes place at numbers of about size n-1...
Mark Underwood
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Someone sent me, among other strings, the following string of 12 consecutive, 12 odd-digit primes. Notice that the sum of the digits, curiously, is never...
Mark Underwood
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Note that if one arranges the digits of the following prime into a 14x14 matrix you see that the 1's form a rough circle except for the 4 1's in the corners: ...
Edwin Clark
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Jul 9, 2003
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Nice. The idea has been around, pardon the pun. You can see some very cool prime visualizations such as primes spiralling at ...
Mark Underwood
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... Unless I missed something, it appears that all of these prime visualizations have to do with patterns determined by the set of primes rather than patterns...
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If one converts the prime: ...
Edwin Clark
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Here's a pretty (decimal) PrP, even if the "circle" is trivial: 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 ...
Andy Steward
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What a fabulous result Andy, something like that must be a first! I hope Chris Caldwell sees for his Prime Pages. Mark...
Mark Underwood
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In a message dated 11/07/03 06:33:19 GMT Daylight Time, aads@... ... Cool! And can we have a square next time, please?:) Mike [Non-text portions of...
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... I've programmed a search for primes whose decimal representation when laid out in a rectangular array displays a pleasing symmetric pattern. I made the...
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Mike, that is truly amazing work, what a sight for the eyes!. And Andy congrats that your monstrous 0-1 rectangle which turned out to be prime. It still...
Mark Underwood
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Hi All, ... The PrP1947 is now a P1947, thanks to Primo and 14:21:37 hours on an Athlon XP2000+: 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 ...
Andy Steward
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In a message dated 13/07/03 04:48:47 GMT Daylight Time, ... I'd like to second that. Not only is its size remarkable, but even its very existence, since, up to...
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Hello all, Let N = ...
Renaud Lifchitz
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I had been thinking about "contact" primes/PRPs several weeks ago. My idea was to let ASCII artists loose on gigantic PRPs -- making them submittable to Henri...
Paul Underwood
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Now that is NEAT....where's the font setting here. I like that. Quite a surprise. Adam (Do I need to go back and read all those contact prime posts that I ...
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Jul 15, 2003
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... I think so. As more evidence consider the following prime (actually probabilistic prime?) found by Renaud Lifchitz: ...
Edwin Clark
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Hello, Actually, I didn't swap the bits one by one in order to find this prime, it would probably have changed too many pixels in the original picture. I've...
Renaud Lifchitz
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... Renaud: I didn't mean to imply that you did, I was just suggesting that it looks like one may obtain just about any picture that one desires from primes ...
Edwin Clark
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At http://193.65.201.25/~fatphil/maths/trivia/odddigits.html Phil Carmody has posted his findings on consecutive primes with entirely odd digits. The largest...
Mark Underwood
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... I just went online and saw the above. The following post was written before seeing it. I guessed right about Carmody. I have to leave now so no time to ...
Jens Kruse Andersen
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Impressive results, Jens! May I ask about new records of all_odd_digits primes: a) single > 91733379531799 b) twin > 91733379531797/9 c) triple >...
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