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Re: [psychiatry-research] News: The nature of temptation

Actually, reaction formation is classified as a neurotic defence mechanisms whereas projection is classified as a narcissistic mechanism. The former is associated with the so-called neurotic disorders and the latter with very young children and with psychotic persons.

If a licentious individual suppresses his feelings without compensation or, for example, sublimates his impulses by creating works of art, he is using mature defences; that is, suppression or sublimation.

Best wishes,
CA

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Ahmet Corak <ahmetcorak@...> wrote:


If someone has licentiousness in his/her unconsciousness where it has been repressed,
he, or she, is pushed to behave prudishly (reaction formation),
he, or  she, accuses others of behaving licentiously (projection)
Both are ego defense mechanisms, and both are unconscious, yet, the first is considered as mature, whereas, the later is immature.

However, considering that most of those leaders are narcissistic, vertical splitting of Kohut should be bore in mind first



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From: Kenny Arnette <jkarnette@...>
Subject: RE: [psychiatry-research] News: The nature of temptationDate: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 12:48 AM

Thanks, CA. You are right. I did not mean to quarrel with your definition of projection. And the caveat you point out about reaction formation is exactly right. I've misapplied the concept. Perhaps we need a list of "conscious defenses" that would include intentional behavior.

ka

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 05:58:48 +0530
Subject: Re: [psychiatry-research] News: The nature of temptation

My definition of projection is correct.
Reaction formation does not apply here because the behavior is conscious and the motives are known. In contrast, ego defence mechanisms are unconscious mechanisms which explain behavior.
Best wishes,
CA

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