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L. Eugene Arnold, M.D., M.Ed.
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Yes, I learned the same rule regarding schizophrenia, but I never heard it regarding OCD. Thanks, CA. ka To: psychiatry-research@yahoogroups.com From:...
It seems to apply pretty much to everything in medicine --at least to more things than it does not apply to. Gene ... L. Eugene Arnold, M.D., M.Ed. Professor...
L. Eugene Arnold
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Jul 12, 2009 3:54 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't it referto /all/ mental illness teatments? dixie...
Hi, Dixie. No, in my original reply I only referred to depression, since that was the topic at the time. I was aware that the "rule of thirds" also applied to...
Not to End Stage Renal Disease or heart failure or pancreatic cancer etc. and etc. Interesting unknown to most fact: only 40% of people on dialysis could...
One in three, then Not much of a recommendation for the Biomedical Model and medications, is it? dixie ... On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:16:29 -0700, Kenny Arnette...
No, Dixie, it is not much of a recommendation. It illustrates our non-understanding of depression. It also is consistent with the fact that people have been...
Yes indeed People are unconcerned that alone in society, under M.H. Law those labelled mentally ill are denied literally all their /universal/ human rights as...
I have no problem with any of your view but must add this; There's no doubt medications have their place - but for life? I don't believe so. Medications'...
Well, not all depression, and not all mental illnesses are chemical/medical in origin. In those cases, drugs work as well as exorcisims for the patient (that...
Interesting. I've never tried CBT (or any psychotherapy), so my life has been an extended experiment in practical neurochemistry. I suppose the only thing I've...
Roger Lass
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Jul 3, 2009 10:20 am
Sad to say, no one ever promised life would be peaceful or happy either dixie...
On distinction between brain and mind, the anti-dualist position like mine is the mainstream in respectable philosophy and neuroscience, and I'm happy to be...
Roger Lass
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Jul 3, 2009 10:21 am
<I'm afraid I find the Full Social Model unappealing, and would not handle my own psychiatric problems that way. It's largely a matter of taste and belief> ...
Hi again R. I haven't fully responded to this key posting yet but do intend to This is an an ancient debate of course and I would be unwise to hastily argue...
I ought to make it clear that I'm not a professional either; I'm a retired but still academically active professor of linguistics with an interest in (and...
Roger Lass
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Jul 4, 2009 9:38 am
You've swallowed a big gulp of Big Pharma's Kool-Aid, and, although you've never had CBT, you are perfectly parroting their line as well. Jim Goodwin, where...
More propaganda from those who want to push expensive drugs on patent in the U.S. Benzos are cheap and proven effective, in fact when I raised one of the many...
It's mildly offensive to be told I'm naive, but I'll let it pass. No, what I've done is read and thought. I precisely don't parrot the line of CBT, because I...
Roger Lass
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Jul 9, 2009 10:04 am
<You don't have bad moods because you have bad thoughts, your thoughts come after your emotions> At a certain level that's so - but not at deeper levels. To...
Actually, the James-Lange theory of emotions states that emotions follow overt behavior consistent with those emotions. It's an oddly behavioristic notion for...
What is the basis for that assertion? I think a basis is needed because it goes so strongly against the consensus of modern neuroscience and scientifically...
Roger Lass
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Jul 9, 2009 10:05 am
RL, there is a TON of evidence to form the basis for my assertion. Unfortunately, you and I (and others on this list) have been through all this before, and...
Have to think about this. The experience sounds so loathsome and dehumanising that I barely want to, though twice by accident I approached something like it in...
Roger Lass
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Jul 10, 2009 2:02 pm
R, The highest cortical heritage, the highest level of knowledge (gnosis), wisdom, truth and freedom is in stillness and silence, not in the noise and havoc. ...
Please bear in mind many 'meditation techniques' exist, vast majority of them thoroughly discredited. I don't know which you were taught but my first wife and...
Sorry, I find that mystical and incomprehensible and verging on religion. The noise is where you get stuff done, and that's at least to me what the brain is...
Roger Lass
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Jul 11, 2009 12:01 am
There is nothing mystical or religious about directing your mind, unless one follows a religious tradition in meditation; it is a science and it involves a lot...
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