This coupled with AOL announcement today and with Rojo's open sourcing -
should send a clear message as to what our architecture should be.

YES - we have similar functionality - but since it's a commodity - hold the
line on adv features

YES - to any sort of plug-in anything

YES - to routing services

YES - to tools which keep things in structured form and THEN do fancy things
with that structured data - including routing it through an output service.

So we're right on track!

- marc

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Pearson [mailto:phil@...] On Behalf Of Phillip
Pearson
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:01 PM
To: marc@...; gauravbhatnagar@...; lucas@...
Subject: Yahoo working on microcontent aggregator too?

http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/socialsoftware/offline/?
permalink=opentech2005.html

"Jeremy Zawodny was very interesting and pointed out a couple of things.

- The rumours about Yahoo working on a Technorati killer, are true.

- The aggregator will support Microformats and RSS Extensions, including
some of Yahoo's rivals

- Yahoo will be REALLY opening up more APIs. Zawodny failed or kept very
quiet about the Konfabulator take over

- Yahoo are counting RSS/Atom as a type of API not just as a syndication
format"

Cheers,
Phil :)

Yeah.  Right now we track feeds with the mc_feeds and mc_subs tables
in the database.  mc_feeds has an entry for each unique feed we know
about, and mc_subs maps users to feeds.  (So if 100 people subscribe
to one feed, it has one entry in mc_feeds and 100 entries in mc_subs).

Then I guess there's a table for blog posts and one for reviews...

We could make some sort of list abstraction internally - a PAList
class from which a bunch of other classes derive; so you can access a
bunch of things as a list.  That way we can keep the backend database
"sensible" but keep the list-like appearance in the front end.


SO... let's think about use cases here.  What would you *do* with a
list of every kind of m-c you have?  Would you want to edit it?  Just
display it?  Is this so you can put lists of stuff in sidebars?  Dump
them out as RSS feeds or some other XML list thing?  Or something
else?

Cheers,
Phil

On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 03:12:46PM -0700, Marc Canter wrote:
> Had a great talk with Gaurav last night about:
>
> -          persistent, system wide Lists of RSS feeds (ala Microsoft's Vista
> feature)
>
> -          but also Lists of every kind of m-c you got
>
> -          Lists of....
>
> -          And also Lists of....
>
> -          Which can all be relied upon by any system resource
>
> -          And utilized as a way to glue different PeopleAggregator modules
> - together.
>
>
>
> Complementing the OTHER way to glue modules together - RedirectThis.com
> (formerly known as ReBlg.org)
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: reblg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:reblg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Phillip Pearson
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:02 PM
> To: reblg@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [reblg] greasemonkey hCal parser
>
>
>
> Yeah, I'll go take a look.  That said, our microformat parser already
> does hCalendar, we just don't show it in the aggregator yet...
>
> Cheers,
> Phil :)
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 02:45:55PM -0700, Marc Canter wrote:
> > Not only for ReBlogging - but also for our micro-content aggregator - as
> > well!
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: reblg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:reblg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > Lucas Gonze
> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:08 PM
> > To: reblg@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [reblg] greasemonkey hCal parser
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks to George Hotelling and Brian Suda, a greasemonkey script to
> > recognize and parse hCalendar in HTML:
> > "Well any time you see an event on the web that has hCalendar
> > information, you can click a link and it'll be added to your calendar
> > so you don't have to copy the information by hand."
> >
> > My guess is that it would take very little work to repurpose this for our
> > needs.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>
>
> *  Visit your group "reblg <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reblg> " on
> the web.
>
> *  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  reblg-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:reblg-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
>
> *  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>  Terms of Service.
>
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>

Yeah, I'll go take a look.  That said, our microformat parser already
does hCalendar, we just don't show it in the aggregator yet...

Cheers,
Phil :)

On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 02:45:55PM -0700, Marc Canter wrote:
> Not only for ReBlogging - but also for our micro-content aggregator - as
> well!
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: reblg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:reblg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Lucas Gonze
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:08 PM
> To: reblg@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [reblg] greasemonkey hCal parser
>
>
>
> Thanks to George Hotelling and Brian Suda, a greasemonkey script to
> recognize and parse hCalendar in HTML:
> "Well any time you see an event on the web that has hCalendar
> information, you can click a link and it'll be added to your calendar
> so you don't have to copy the information by hand."
>
> My guess is that it would take very little work to repurpose this for our
> needs.

Thanks to George Hotelling and Brian Suda, a greasemonkey script to
recognize and parse hCalendar in HTML:
"Well any time you see an event on the web that has hCalendar
information, you can click a link and it'll be added to your calendar
so you don't have to copy the information by hand."

My guess is that it would take very little work to repurpose this for our needs.

>> Boris' action-icons remind of a UI we did for AOL, while the
>> embedded Re's –
>> in the body text is exactly what we did in the early web – when we
>> tried to
>> establish:
>> -          two-links
>> -          media link
>> -          item link
>> -          comments link
>
> That's a good data point.  It suggests that "Re" naturally has the
> right implications.

The big leap for potential users will be understanding that the
chiclets aren't coming from the original site, but from an
intermediary script. A lot of this is old territory, too - there was
a lot of hoo-haw three years ago about Smart Tags (http://
www.alistapart.com/articles/smarttags/), which do something like
what's being described here, only for evil rather than good.

> In your mockup, I liked the hover expansion a lot.  Something about
> having the explanatory text in the body of the document made it more
> readable than a tooltip.

Plus, better explanatory links, e.g. "help" or "wtf" can go in there. :)

> The yellow didn't feel supersexy, don't know why, but I think that a
> standard color would be a usability win.  Maybe the classic XML button
> orange?

I agree that the yellow looks a little sickly. I'm not sure that RSS-
orange is /quite/ right either. Dan Cederholm's work for Microformats
(http://simplebits.com/work/microformats/) uses green - maybe green
ought to be the unofficial color for this stuff?

>> But I DO wanna remind folks again – of the humans.
>> Think of the HUMANS!
>
> We can do some guerilla usability testing once we get final candidates
> -- sit friends or family in front of a page with the chiclet and say
> "reblog an item".  this will be crushing to our egos but productive.
> :)

Heh - what happens when the response is "re-what a who?"

People are starting to get comfortable with this idea of microformat
republishing thanks to Delicious and all the blog-my-cats Flickr
plugins. They need to be led by example, though.

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sf/ca            http://mike.teczno.com/contact.html

On 7/23/05, Marc Canter <marc@...> wrote:
> Boris' action-icons remind of a UI we did for AOL, while the embedded Re's –
> in the body text is exactly what we did in the early web – when we tried to
> establish:
> -          two-links
> -          media link
> -          item link
> -          comments link

That's a good data point.  It suggests that "Re" naturally has the
right implications.

> But I DO wanna remind folks again – of the humans.
> Think of the HUMANS!

We can do some guerilla usability testing once we get final candidates
-- sit friends or family in front of a page with the chiclet and say
"reblog an item".  this will be crushing to our egos but productive.
:)

On 7/23/05, Michal Migurski <mike-jsonphp@...> wrote:
> Yeah - in reading through last week's posts on the topic, it seems
> like a one or two character mini-logo is a winning idea. The "&"
> character is neat; it's as simple as the often-used "#". Personally,
> I like the idea of playing on the functionality of the reblg by using
> the letters "Re", maybe in a pale yellow square the looks like a Post-
> It, as in http://migurski.net/re.html. Sticking to pure CSS makes it
> easier to distribute.

I like the "Re" too.  It's small enough to be unintrusive.  It's a
common cognate among western languages, so it will internationalize
well.  It's text only, so it allows us to have the distribution and
customization benefits of pure css.

In your mockup, I liked the hover expansion a lot.  Something about
having the explanatory text in the body of the document made it more
readable than a tooltip.

The yellow didn't feel supersexy, don't know why, but I think that a
standard color would be a usability win.  Maybe the classic XML button
orange?

> My friend Boris worked on http://infosecdaily.net/securitynews/,
> where he adds a small set of action-icons to each post.

Wow!  That's a perfect example to work with.  Observations --
- he doesn't have room for the in-body text to expand on hover
- the icons he uses, including the graphical ones, are about one character wide
- the del.icio.us favicon works well.

- Lucas

> Hola Michal, and thanks for joining up.   We can really use input from
> somebody in a user interface frame of mind.
>
> So, what you do think of the chiclet design issue?  If we go with the
> big "post this" thing, we have something easy to understand, but we
> also create a source of confusion and maybe something that doesn't
> look good when it's all over a page.  If we go with a one-character
> thing like '&', which is parallel to the '#' permalink symbol, we have
> something completely incomprehensible at first but easy to adapt to
> individual web pages.

Yeah - in reading through last week's posts on the topic, it seems
like a one or two character mini-logo is a winning idea. The "&"
character is neat; it's as simple as the often-used "#". Personally,
I like the idea of playing on the functionality of the reblg by using
the letters "Re", maybe in a pale yellow square the looks like a Post-
It, as in http://migurski.net/re.html. Sticking to pure CSS makes it
easier to distribute.

My friend Boris worked on http://infosecdaily.net/securitynews/,
where he adds a small set of action-icons to each post. It's
interesting to me that he chose a variation of Del's favicon (http://
del.icio.us/favicon.ico) to indicate Del posts on a subject.

-mike.

------------------------------------------------------
michal migurski- contact info, blog, and pgp key:
sf/ca            http://mike.teczno.com/contact.html

Hola Michal, and thanks for joining up.   We can really use input from
somebody in a user interface frame of mind.

So, what you do think of the chiclet design issue?  If we go with the
big "post this" thing, we have something easy to understand, but we
also create a source of confusion and maybe something that doesn't
look good when it's all over a page.  If we go with a one-character
thing like '&', which is parallel to the '#' permalink symbol, we have
something completely incomprehensible at first but easy to adapt to
individual web pages.
If we go with a little graphic like a recycling symbol, we have
something slightly easy to understand and that internationalizes well,
but users will have to make a copy of the graphic.

- Lucas

On 7/22/05, michal_migurski <mike-jsonphp@...> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Lucas suggested that I join up. He and I have been talking abit over the past
few weeks about
> Reblog.org and microformats and such. I've been reading the archives here with
great
> interest, especially the most recent talk about the "post this" orange
chicklet thingies. :)
>
> I'm in a interface design frame of mind, since I've been working on drafts for
the next major
> revision of Reblog: http://mike.teczno.com/look-feel/redesign.html
>
> -mike.
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi everyone,

Lucas suggested that I join up. He and I have been talking abit over the past
few weeks about
Reblog.org and microformats and such. I've been reading the archives here with
great
interest, especially the most recent talk about the "post this" orange chicklet
thingies. :)

I'm in a interface design frame of mind, since I've been working on drafts for
the next major
revision of Reblog: http://mike.teczno.com/look-feel/redesign.html

-mike.

On 7/21/05, Gaurav Bhatnagar <gauravbhatnagar@...> wrote:
> Are you suggesting hyperlinked text or a really tiny hyperlinked image? I
> think its not very intuitive though the insiders will figure it out soon
> enough. But for mainstream, shouldn't we have something very obvious? Not
> that I have any better suggestions... :)

The gotchas that we have to manage are:

- The link points to redirectthis.com, but the point of the link is
"post this" or "reblog this" or some other high-level concept.  This
is confusing -- we have to give it a label, but any label we give will
seem muddled.

- The "post this" links will be repeated all over the page, and if the
button is too visually intrusive it makes the page look blotchy.
Check out http://redirectthis.com/demo to see what I mean, and compare
that to how unintrusive the standard '#' symbol for permalinks is.

A thing I forgot to mention -- even if the visual for the link is
something obscure like a '#' or '&', we can use the link title as a
tooltip to explain what it is.

On 7/21/05, Lucas Gonze <lucas.gonze@...> wrote:
> On 7/21/05, Gaurav Bhatnagar <gauravbhatnagar@...> wrote:
> > Are you suggesting hyperlinked text or a really tiny hyperlinked image? I
> > think its not very intuitive though the insiders will figure it out soon
> > enough. But for mainstream, shouldn't we have something very obvious? Not
> > that I have any better suggestions... :)
>
> The gotchas that we have to manage are:
>
> - The link points to redirectthis.com, but the point of the link is
> "post this" or "reblog this" or some other high-level concept.  This
> is confusing -- we have to give it a label, but any label we give will
> seem muddled.
>
> - The "post this" links will be repeated all over the page, and if the
> button is too visually intrusive it makes the page look blotchy.
> Check out http://redirectthis.com/demo to see what I mean, and compare
> that to how unintrusive the standard '#' symbol for permalinks is.
>

On 7/21/05, Phillip Pearson <pp@...> wrote:
> Either that or a little orange R or P ...
>
> Also % ...

Also, if we want to get graphical a little recycle symbol would be
self-explanatory.  I have a slight preference for characters that
anybody can type, though -- easier to style, more flexible according
to the blogger's needs.

Are you suggesting hyperlinked text or a really tiny hyperlinked image? I
think its not very intuitive though the insiders will figure it out soon
enough. But for mainstream, shouldn't we have something very obvious? Not
that I have any better suggestions... :)



-Gaurav
Tekriti Software
http://www.tekritisoftware.com
http://www.newdelhitimes.org




>From: Phillip Pearson <pp@...>
>Reply-To: reblg@yahoogroups.com
>To: reblg@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [reblg] RedirectThis
>Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:47:57 +1200
>

:)

Either that or a little orange R or P ...

Also % ...

Cheers,
Phil

On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 04:44:40PM -1000, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> On 7/21/05, Phillip Pearson <pp@...> wrote:
> > That sounds nice - I like it.
>
> Really?  Awesome!  For some reason I thought people would hate the idea.  :)
>
> Is the '&' character the winning candidate?
>
> -L
>
> >  Something small enough that *everyone*
> > can use it.  Not too obtrusive - but obvious when you know what to
> > look for.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Phil :)
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 02:59:22PM -1000, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> > > Another option is to emulate the "#" that people use for permalinks --
> > > a minimal little thing that insiders eyes gravitate to but other
> > > people keep away from.  Something like '&' (implying "address")....
> > >
> > > On 7/21/05, Phillip Pearson <pp@...> wrote:
> > > > Umm, yeah, that's a pain about the chiclet.
> > > >
> > > > The chiclet *must not* have a geeky name.  It also has to be short -
> > > > the icon has to be small enough that people will actually use it.
> > > > RSS's "XML" icon is good.  "Reblg" was good...
> > > >
> > > > If we call the chiclet "post this" but then go to redirectthis and use
> > > > postthis.org for our own reblogging tool, that's a problem, because
> > > > then the chiclet has our own tool's name on it but might lead to other
> > > > people's tools.
> > > >
> > > > If it's only for reblogging, we could use postthis.org as the
> > > > redirection site, and then when we get our reblogger up and running -
> > > > inside the peopleaggregator - put it on peopleaggregator.org and let
> > > > people use it there.
> > > >
> > > > If it's for more than that - general redirection of a sort we don't
> > > > know about yet - then redirectthis.org makes sense and having a 'post
> > > > this' button to access redirectthis.org's redirect-to-reblogging-tool
> > > > functionality is good, BUT we probably shouldn't put our own tool on
> > > > postthis.org.
> > > >
> > > > (Perhaps postthis.org could redirect to redirectthis.org's
> > > > redirect-to-reblogging-tool function)...
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:04:05PM -0000, lucas_gonze wrote:
> > > > > Hey folks,
> > > > >
> > > > > reblg.com is now redirectthis.com.
> > > > >
> > > > > I had to touch a lot of little things to do that, so there may well be
> > > > > bugs.  Also, there is a new source of confusion -- the chiclet says
> > > > > "post this" but the URL says RedirectThis.com -- any ideas on how to
> > > > > fix that?  Does it matter?
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't yet put in a redirect from the old domain to the new one.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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On 7/21/05, Phillip Pearson <pp@...> wrote:
> That sounds nice - I like it.

Really?  Awesome!  For some reason I thought people would hate the idea.  :)

Is the '&' character the winning candidate?

-L

>  Something small enough that *everyone*
> can use it.  Not too obtrusive - but obvious when you know what to
> look for.
>
> Cheers,
> Phil :)
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 02:59:22PM -1000, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> > Another option is to emulate the "#" that people use for permalinks --
> > a minimal little thing that insiders eyes gravitate to but other
> > people keep away from.  Something like '&' (implying "address")....
> >
> > On 7/21/05, Phillip Pearson <pp@...> wrote:
> > > Umm, yeah, that's a pain about the chiclet.
> > >
> > > The chiclet *must not* have a geeky name.  It also has to be short -
> > > the icon has to be small enough that people will actually use it.
> > > RSS's "XML" icon is good.  "Reblg" was good...
> > >
> > > If we call the chiclet "post this" but then go to redirectthis and use
> > > postthis.org for our own reblogging tool, that's a problem, because
> > > then the chiclet has our own tool's name on it but might lead to other
> > > people's tools.
> > >
> > > If it's only for reblogging, we could use postthis.org as the
> > > redirection site, and then when we get our reblogger up and running -
> > > inside the peopleaggregator - put it on peopleaggregator.org and let
> > > people use it there.
> > >
> > > If it's for more than that - general redirection of a sort we don't
> > > know about yet - then redirectthis.org makes sense and having a 'post
> > > this' button to access redirectthis.org's redirect-to-reblogging-tool
> > > functionality is good, BUT we probably shouldn't put our own tool on
> > > postthis.org.
> > >
> > > (Perhaps postthis.org could redirect to redirectthis.org's
> > > redirect-to-reblogging-tool function)...
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:04:05PM -0000, lucas_gonze wrote:
> > > > Hey folks,
> > > >
> > > > reblg.com is now redirectthis.com.
> > > >
> > > > I had to touch a lot of little things to do that, so there may well be
> > > > bugs.  Also, there is a new source of confusion -- the chiclet says
> > > > "post this" but the URL says RedirectThis.com -- any ideas on how to
> > > > fix that?  Does it matter?
> > > >
> > > > I haven't yet put in a redirect from the old domain to the new one.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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That sounds nice - I like it.  Something small enough that *everyone*
can use it.  Not too obtrusive - but obvious when you know what to
look for.

Cheers,
Phil :)

On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 02:59:22PM -1000, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> Another option is to emulate the "#" that people use for permalinks --
> a minimal little thing that insiders eyes gravitate to but other
> people keep away from.  Something like '&' (implying "address")....
>
> On 7/21/05, Phillip Pearson <pp@...> wrote:
> > Umm, yeah, that's a pain about the chiclet.
> >
> > The chiclet *must not* have a geeky name.  It also has to be short -
> > the icon has to be small enough that people will actually use it.
> > RSS's "XML" icon is good.  "Reblg" was good...
> >
> > If we call the chiclet "post this" but then go to redirectthis and use
> > postthis.org for our own reblogging tool, that's a problem, because
> > then the chiclet has our own tool's name on it but might lead to other
> > people's tools.
> >
> > If it's only for reblogging, we could use postthis.org as the
> > redirection site, and then when we get our reblogger up and running -
> > inside the peopleaggregator - put it on peopleaggregator.org and let
> > people use it there.
> >
> > If it's for more than that - general redirection of a sort we don't
> > know about yet - then redirectthis.org makes sense and having a 'post
> > this' button to access redirectthis.org's redirect-to-reblogging-tool
> > functionality is good, BUT we probably shouldn't put our own tool on
> > postthis.org.
> >
> > (Perhaps postthis.org could redirect to redirectthis.org's
> > redirect-to-reblogging-tool function)...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Phil
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:04:05PM -0000, lucas_gonze wrote:
> > > Hey folks,
> > >
> > > reblg.com is now redirectthis.com.
> > >
> > > I had to touch a lot of little things to do that, so there may well be
> > > bugs.  Also, there is a new source of confusion -- the chiclet says
> > > "post this" but the URL says RedirectThis.com -- any ideas on how to
> > > fix that?  Does it matter?
> > >
> > > I haven't yet put in a redirect from the old domain to the new one.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Another option is to emulate the "#" that people use for permalinks --
a minimal little thing that insiders eyes gravitate to but other
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On 7/21/05, Phillip Pearson <pp@...> wrote:
> Umm, yeah, that's a pain about the chiclet.
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> The chiclet *must not* have a geeky name.  It also has to be short -
> the icon has to be small enough that people will actually use it.
> RSS's "XML" icon is good.  "Reblg" was good...
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> If we call the chiclet "post this" but then go to redirectthis and use
> postthis.org for our own reblogging tool, that's a problem, because
> then the chiclet has our own tool's name on it but might lead to other
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> If it's only for reblogging, we could use postthis.org as the
> redirection site, and then when we get our reblogger up and running -
> inside the peopleaggregator - put it on peopleaggregator.org and let
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> If it's for more than that - general redirection of a sort we don't
> know about yet - then redirectthis.org makes sense and having a 'post
> this' button to access redirectthis.org's redirect-to-reblogging-tool
> functionality is good, BUT we probably shouldn't put our own tool on
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> Cheers,
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Umm, yeah, that's a pain about the chiclet.

The chiclet *must not* have a geeky name.  It also has to be short -
the icon has to be small enough that people will actually use it.
RSS's "XML" icon is good.  "Reblg" was good...

If we call the chiclet "post this" but then go to redirectthis and use
postthis.org for our own reblogging tool, that's a problem, because
then the chiclet has our own tool's name on it but might lead to other
people's tools.

If it's only for reblogging, we could use postthis.org as the
redirection site, and then when we get our reblogger up and running -
inside the peopleaggregator - put it on peopleaggregator.org and let
people use it there.

If it's for more than that - general redirection of a sort we don't
know about yet - then redirectthis.org makes sense and having a 'post
this' button to access redirectthis.org's redirect-to-reblogging-tool
functionality is good, BUT we probably shouldn't put our own tool on
postthis.org.

(Perhaps postthis.org could redirect to redirectthis.org's
redirect-to-reblogging-tool function)...

Cheers,
Phil

On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:04:05PM -0000, lucas_gonze wrote:
> Hey folks,
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> reblg.com is now redirectthis.com.
>
> I had to touch a lot of little things to do that, so there may well be
> bugs.  Also, there is a new source of confusion -- the chiclet says
> "post this" but the URL says RedirectThis.com -- any ideas on how to
> fix that?  Does it matter?
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Hey folks,

reblg.com is now redirectthis.com.

I had to touch a lot of little things to do that, so there may well be
bugs.  Also, there is a new source of confusion -- the chiclet says
"post this" but the URL says RedirectThis.com -- any ideas on how to
fix that?  Does it matter?

I haven't yet put in a redirect from the old domain to the new one.

http://reblg.com/greasemonkey will generate a greasemonkey script to
send reblg links to your reblog without stopping off at our site and
without using a MIME helper app.

On 7/8/05, Marc Canter <marc@...> wrote:
> All that ReBlg does - is enable an author to easily switch, specify or
> conceivably send stuff to all three tools.
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> Right?

Yup!!!

Hey Greg,

On 7/8/05, Greg Gershman <greggersh@...> wrote:
> I've been sort of following the ReBlg announcements that have come
> out, and I'm very intrigued.  I had at one time designed an
> application that did a reblog of a blog post using the Atom API, but
> never really went anywhere with it.  How does ReBlg fit with existing
> publishing protocols like MetaWeblog or Atom?

Reblg is used to let the user say which reblogging tool they want to
use.  Let's say there are a bunch of different rebloggers and each one
supports a different set of metadata formats and publishing
protocols... by using reblg, a source blog doesn't have to pick which
of those will be supported.

> Is there a way the two
> can work together, or is ReBlg contain components that don't fit with
> these protocols?  For blog posts it might seem like there is some
> overlap...other metadata formats like playlists might be trickier.
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> I'm interested in how Reblg might be integrated into a search scenario
> from the perspective of personalization and information routing, or
> even saving search history.

From the perspective of a search engine, I imagine that you'd want to
have a link on each result which allows the user to reblog it.  (or
save a modified copy, or bookmark the URL).  Reblg frees you from
having to write a personalization engine and saves the user from
having to re-enter their personalization settings on every site.

make sense?

-L