hello i am looking for a charger for my batterys
liion 14,8 volt 70AH i am actually charging them at 5amp
but it takes to long
i would like a charger off 15 to 20 amp
can you help me?
greetings luc

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I have been a member here for a while and placed a battery order a few months
back.

I have 2 x 24vdc 15Ah NiMH Batteries which can be seen here:
http://timgulden.fotopic.net/p7585783.html

I also have 2 chargers (86 - 260vac) that are made for these batteries and
include a thermistor for monitoring the battery temperature during charging.

If interested, please email me off list.
Tim

----- Original Message -----
   From: aljupi2002
   To: liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 5:33 PM
   Subject: [liion_power_products] Sorry...but...How And Where to ORDER?




   Hello:

   I m little lost. I Want to buy 2x 24 Volt Nimh Batteries (48 Volt)
   with 2 Chargers. (I need 220 Volt INput Chargers. How can I order
   this? I Can t find any help to buy this products in this Page.
   THANKS!!!!!!!!!!


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Hello:

I m little lost. I Want to buy 2x 24 Volt Nimh Batteries (48 Volt)
with 2 Chargers. (I need 220 Volt INput Chargers. How can I order
this? I Can t find any help to buy this products in this Page.
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!

Hi,

I wanna buy a 36V 8ah NIMH pack + charger, but I'm afraid to have the same
Voltage sag issue than with my 36V 7,5ah gel SLA.
I've thrown this on different groups and forums, some people say I will have
the same issue, some say I won't cos Nimh behave differently, and some say
it will be worse with Nimh than SLA...

What would you say here, those who know or/and have experimented this ?

Thx
Beo

David, it seems your Nimh packs are a little cheaper than a few months ago,
that's good.



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Okay , so how much does a Pack of 24 volt NiMh with charger cost or
who sells them ?  Assuming the most affordable way to get to 48 volts
is to buy 2 packs and charge them seperatly with a 24 v charger if a
48 volt charger is not available or too expensive...

David ??? are you there ?



--- In liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com, Michael M <myyahoo@t...>
wrote:
> The highest one I know of is Saft. they have NiCd and NiMH both at
> 100ah (I belive) These packs are designed to be charged with a
> constant current charger, and the pack controller will bypass cells
> as they ar charged to prevent over charging of the end cells while
> the center cells only get a partial charge.
>
> The Power Assist group had a discussion on it a while ago.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/power-assist/
> Power-Assist on the web at http://www.power-assist.org
>
>
> >What is the highest Ah NiMH available in a 24 volt pack ?
> >
>
>
> --
> ---------------------------
> Never attribute to malice what can more easily be explained by
incompetence.

The highest one I know of is Saft. they have NiCd and NiMH both at
100ah (I belive) These packs are designed to be charged with a
constant current charger, and the pack controller will bypass cells
as they ar charged to prevent over charging of the end cells while
the center cells only get a partial charge.

The Power Assist group had a discussion on it a while ago.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/power-assist/
Power-Assist on the web at http://www.power-assist.org


>What is the highest Ah NiMH available in a 24 volt pack ?
>


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For single cells, it would be dependant on the size of the cell.  An "F" cell
peaks out at about 15 Ahrs.  Another important spec is max discharge rate.  A
good cell should do 2C to 3C.  20 cells in series will give you your 24vdc.
Tim
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   Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 1:58 AM
   Subject: [liion_power_products] Highest amp hr . 24VNiMH available




   What is the highest Ah NiMH available in a 24 volt pack ?


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What is the highest Ah NiMH available in a 24 volt pack ?

You can hook two 24V in series.

Scott
NOVA Light Electric Vehicles
www.novalev.com


>
> From: "jmygann" <jmygann@...>
> Date: 2005/02/17 Thu PM 01:05:46 EST
> To: liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [liion_power_products] 48V NiMH and charger
>
>

Scott Macri
NOVA Light Electric Vehicles
www.NOVALEV.com


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Hello All

WorleyPasons has recently been awarded a major development contract for a
large international vehicle manufacturer. We shall be developing the lithium
polymer battery pack system and integration into their series hybrid HEV
saloon car.

We are seeking interested engineers to join our team in Singapore. Seeking
both project leaders and engineers with following:

Electric Vehicle/Solar Vehicle Experience
Battery pack design experience
CAN communication experience
Mechanical design knowledge


Feel free to email: john.grzan@...  with full CV


regards
john
www.worley.com.au/wecs

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Where is he? Seems he's been gone for a while!

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>    Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:13:04 -0000
>    From: "John Schuyler" <johnescooter50@...>
> Subject: Re: cost?
>
>
> --- In liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com, "steve hogancamp"
> <steve_hogancamp@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hoe much does a36 volt 12ah NiMh pack with charger cost David.
>
> Afaik, David's still out of town...
>
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Is there a 48V NiMh pack and charger available ?

--- In liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com, "steve hogancamp"
<steve_hogancamp@y...> wrote:
>
> Hoe much does a36 volt 12ah NiMh pack with charger cost David.

Afaik, David's still out of town...

John Schuyler

Hoe much does a36 volt 12ah NiMh pack with charger cost David.

--- In liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com, "steve hogancamp"
<steve_hogancamp@y...> wrote:
>
> an' go anywhere without finding you. You retired too?It seems that
> you are always on-line with gems of wisdom. Thanks Buddy

Not yet but getting close to retiring again - first time was at 30.

If I'm not fixing computers I'm on one reading all the escapades of
all the EVers all over the world. I read 19 groups at various levels
of interest.

Jan
Newport RI

an' go anywhere without finding you. You retired too?It seems that
you are always on-line with gems of wisdom. Thanks Buddy

--- In liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com, "steve hogancamp"
<steve_hogancamp@y...> wrote:
>
>    This might be a dumb question but I know very little about
> batteries. What is the blue wire on your battery packs for?

Hey Steve

Usually if there is a third wire it sometimes is connected to a
temperature sensitive resistor - that is a resistor that changes it
value as a function of temperature - usually its resistance
decreases as the temperature increases. It is used to tell the
temperature of the battery pack somewhere in the center of the cell
bundle. One side is connected to the black negative battery lead and
the other side of the resistor come out on the Blue wire connector
whatever. This usually monitored by the battery charger to determine
when the batteries are too hot to charge or have reached full charge
(full charge indicated by a temperature rise).

Jan
Newport RI

This might be a dumb question but I know very little about
batteries. What is the blue wire on your battery packs for?

> > Start - All Programs - Accessories - Accessibility - Narrator

found there ^^^^^^^^^

> >
> > And the magnifier is there also.
> >
> > Jan
> > Newport RI
> >
>
>  Hi,
>
> I haven't got this on my Win XP pro.
> Where do you find it ?
>
> Béo
>
It came on my laptop Averatec 3200 and I think you have optional
software in XP Pro that may not be installed unless you select it.

Jan
Newport RI

mercredi 9 février 2005 02:09, Jan a écrit :

>>
> Start - All Programs - Accessories - Accessibility - Narrator
>
> And the magnifier is there also.
>
> Jan
> Newport RI
>

  Hi,

I haven't got this on my Win XP pro.
Where do you find it ?

Béo



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--- In liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com, keith vansickle
<keithvansickle01@y...> wrote:
>
> how do you turn on speech typing???
>
>
>
Start - All Programs - Accessories - Accessibility - Narrator

And the magnifier is there also.

Jan
Newport RI

how do you turn on speech typing???














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>       1. Re: Re: new source of batteries for
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>            From: Evan Tuer <evan.tuer@...>
>       2. Re: new source of batteries for scooters!
>            From: "Jan" <lookinnwpt@...>
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>    Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:52:11 +0000
>    From: Evan Tuer <evan.tuer@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: new source of batteries for
> scooters!
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>
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:34:34 -0000, Jan
> <lookinnwpt@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com,
> "Joshua Goldberg"
> > <salmagundi50@m...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well I am sure David Lalonde has NEVER heard of
> that company in
> > Vancouver
> > > LOL
> > >
> > > JG
> >
> > Yes LOL
>
> Indeed.  Seeing as David worked for that company at
> one time, and
> would probably be able read between the lines of the
> press release
> copy that you quoted.
>
> >
> > Hey Joshua if you are running XP turn on the
> speech for typing, it
> > speaks each key you press so you don't have to see
> the keystrokes.
> > It also can read the text to you out loud from the
> screen. Also your
> > eyes need oxygen to function as they get it from
> the air instead of
> > from red blood cells so a little fresh air on your
> eyes should help
> > them a lot along with some full range motion left
> right up down a
> > few times an hour.
>
> Now, what's all that about?  Perhaps your brain
> needs a little oxygen..
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
>    Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 04:45:54 -0000
>    From: "Jan" <lookinnwpt@...>
> Subject: Re: new source of batteries for scooters!
>
>
> > > Hey Joshua if you are running XP turn on the
> speech for typing, it
> > > speaks each key you press so you don't have to
> see the keystrokes.
> > > It also can read the text to you out loud from
> the screen. Also
> your
> > > eyes need oxygen to function as they get it from
> the air instead
> of
> > > from red blood cells so a little fresh air on
> your eyes should
> help
> > > them a lot along with some full range motion
> left right up down a
> > > few times an hour.
> >
> > Now, what's all that about?  Perhaps your brain
> needs a little
> oxygen..
>
> Joshua was complaining that he can't see what he
> types - too many
> hours staring at a 20 inch monitor with large type
> while smoking
> cigars -  XP has a Narrator that speaks every key
> that you press as
> well as the headers of windows that pop up. Moving
> the eyeballs a few
> times an hour helps circulate blood in the areas
> that do get blood
> from internal vessels.
>
> Jan
> Newport RI
>
>
>
>
>
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weird I was looking for a place to live and found what looked like a nice
place & one of the main industries was e-moli one...I wonder if they give
free samples to the locals



JG




>From: Evan Tuer <evan.tuer@...>
>Reply-To: liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com
>To: liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [liion_power_products] Re: new source of batteries for
>scooters!
>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:52:11 +0000
>



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On 1/8/05 David wrote:

>Hello folks, I'm taking a week off from the group while I'm in
>Singapore.  Please play nice in the mean time.  There will be hell
>to pay if I get back and a mess has been made here! :-)
>
>Happy New Year!
>
>David


David

I need to purchase samples of the 13 and 10 AH NiMh F cells for delivery
by early April. Is this likely to happen? I don't have to have the best
prices for the samples, but I need to start testing in preparation for
marketing them as custom pack configurations.

I now have a bike equipped with the brushed 2004/05 Currie USPD kit
modified to run on 36V. I am currently using three 7ah size 12V sealed
high rate lead acid batteries which fit nicely into the stock battery
box. Performance is good but range is on the short side. I believe the
10AH NiMh cells should deliver more range than lead acid without as much
voltage drop as the 12 or 13AH NiMh cells have when accelerating or hill
climbing.


____________________________

Nick Nichols (KF4UTB)

nicknich@...

Covesville, VA 22931

http://leys.com/basic/rockfish - Rockfish Products - electric bicycles &
scooters - 434-979-4466

> > Hey Joshua if you are running XP turn on the speech for typing, it
> > speaks each key you press so you don't have to see the keystrokes.
> > It also can read the text to you out loud from the screen. Also
your
> > eyes need oxygen to function as they get it from the air instead
of
> > from red blood cells so a little fresh air on your eyes should
help
> > them a lot along with some full range motion left right up down a
> > few times an hour.
>
> Now, what's all that about?  Perhaps your brain needs a little
oxygen..

Joshua was complaining that he can't see what he types - too many
hours staring at a 20 inch monitor with large type while smoking
cigars -  XP has a Narrator that speaks every key that you press as
well as the headers of windows that pop up. Moving the eyeballs a few
times an hour helps circulate blood in the areas that do get blood
from internal vessels.

Jan
Newport RI

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:34:34 -0000, Jan <lookinnwpt@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com, "Joshua Goldberg"
> <salmagundi50@m...> wrote:
> >
> > Well I am sure David Lalonde has NEVER heard of that company in
> Vancouver
> > LOL
> >
> > JG
>
> Yes LOL

Indeed.  Seeing as David worked for that company at one time, and
would probably be able read between the lines of the press release
copy that you quoted.

>
> Hey Joshua if you are running XP turn on the speech for typing, it
> speaks each key you press so you don't have to see the keystrokes.
> It also can read the text to you out loud from the screen. Also your
> eyes need oxygen to function as they get it from the air instead of
> from red blood cells so a little fresh air on your eyes should help
> them a lot along with some full range motion left right up down a
> few times an hour.

Now, what's all that about?  Perhaps your brain needs a little oxygen..

--- In liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com, "Joshua Goldberg"
<salmagundi50@m...> wrote:
>
> Well I am sure David Lalonde has NEVER heard of that company in
Vancouver
> LOL
>
>
>
> JG

Yes LOL

Hey Joshua if you are running XP turn on the speech for typing, it
speaks each key you press so you don't have to see the keystrokes.
It also can read the text to you out loud from the screen. Also your
eyes need oxygen to function as they get it from the air instead of
from red blood cells so a little fresh air on your eyes should help
them a lot along with some full range motion left right up down a
few times an hour.

Where in the World is David Lalonde?

Jan
Newport RI

Well I am sure David Lalonde has NEVER heard of that company in Vancouver
LOL



JG




>From: "Jan" <lookinnwpt@...>
>Reply-To: liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com
>To: liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [liion_power_products] new source of batteries for scooters!
>Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:17:53 -0000
>



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Milwaukee Electric Tool says its breakthrough in cordless technology
resulted from a partnership with a Canadian battery company, using
lithium-manganese batteries to deliver high power and longer-lasting
charges.

The 28-volt batteries are from E-One Moli Energy, of Vancouver,
British Columbia, and will be assembled at Milwaukee Electric Tool's
plant in Brookfield.

(Clips from ET List)

Jan
Newport RI

My last experience riding in the winter was exciting. I was riding on the
frozen surface of eastern lake Ontario. Just hours before it had been
covered by fresh snow. Then freezing rain melted it down . And finally a
cold night froze it solid. It was smooth as glass. The studded tires gave a
good grip. I was having a ball zipping along. I could imagine myself as one
of those amazing men setting a land speed record on the flats. I haven't
felt like this since childhood. The fantasy, the feeling of speed, the
thrill.



Did I say thrill? I should have said spill. I ran into the deep ruts left by
a snowmobile when this was all a snow covered frozen lake. When frozen this
was turned into the equivalent of a concrete drainage ditch. After I ran
into it I did an acrobatic summersault over he handlebars. Thank goodness
heavy winter clothing saved me from injuries. The bike took a beating. One
taco'd wheel and bent forks. Plus a mangled kickstand.



Replaced the forks and rim yesterday. Today I'm going to rewire and install
the new controller. Plus add the alarm system. Should be back on the road in
a day or so. Practice does improve performance. It only took about an hour
to lace this wheel to the motor.



This leaves the problem of a heavy duty kickstand. Does anyone know of a
stand solid enough to handle the weight of bike, batteries and motor? I
really won't miss the old stand too much. It was really too light weight to
handle the weight of the bike.



Rick





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From: Tim [mailto:rimmer59@...]
Sent: January 22, 2005 3:55 PM
To: liion_power_products@yahoogroups.com; power-assist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [liion_power_products] Our first big snow.




Well everyone...We got snow!!! It looks to be around 10 to 11 inches worth.
Just like last year, and the year before, I had to try this test again with
the new 24v ABF NiMH battery pack.  Again the drive was challenging due to
the snow making turning difficult but this time the motor didn't cut out due
to voltage sag.  It appears that these batteries can source more current
than my previous pack.  Again, this was done with a 300 watt motor.
I have posted pictures here:  http://timgulden.fotopic.net/  (the link is at
the bottom of fotopic page Winter Electric Bike Test).
Tim





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