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Re: [rest-discuss] SimpleDB: welcome to 1999

On 12/16/07, Subbu Allamaraju <subbu.allamaraju@...> wrote:
> +1
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> I just tried to "refactor" this API
(http://www.subbu.org/weblogs/main/2007/12/a_restful_versi.html
> ) to be resource oriented, and it is not that hard.

Subbu, here's a slightly different take on the same principle:
http://blog.labnotes.org/2007/12/17/dehorrible-restifying-simpledb/

Assaf

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> Subbu
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> On Dec 16, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Steve Loughran wrote:
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> > On Dec 16, 2007 5:49 PM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@...> wrote:
> >> Subbu Allamaraju wrote:
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> >>> This is a variant of what I call as SOAPy REST (http://subbu.
> >>> org/weblogs/ main/2007/ 10/soapy_ rest.html
> >>> <http://subbu.org/weblogs/main/2007/10/soapy_rest.html>
> >>> ). Whoever wrote this API had no idea of why they were providing a
> >>> resource centric interface. Yet another HTTP API!
> >>
> >> No, it's even much Much MUCH worse -- it uses GET for non-retrieval
> >> actions.
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> > I nominate it for the 2007 Restless awards, in the much contested
> > category of
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> > "things that claim to be RESTful but do side effects in their GETs"
> > along with the ever popular
> > "SOAP endpoint in disguise" category
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> > I know this mailing list has not, historically, had such awards, but
> > now is as good a time to start as any....
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Is somebody from Amazon on this list? Please tell me you're not using GET requests like it describes here: ...
Dimitri Glazkov
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Dec 15, 2007
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... I should probably not publicly admit that I looked at that for some time going "Why is 'GET ...
Karen
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... Amazon does the same thing with their ecommerce api, which this list has criticized long ago. Not that it did any good...I just checked, the latest...
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This is a variant of what I call as SOAPy REST (http://subbu.org/weblogs/main/2007/10/soapy_rest.html ). Whoever wrote this API had no idea of why they were...
Subbu Allamaraju
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... No, it's even much Much MUCH worse -- it uses GET for non-retrieval actions. BR, Julian...
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... I nominate it for the 2007 Restless awards, in the much contested category of "things that claim to be RESTful but do side effects in their GETs" along...
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+1 I just tried to "refactor" this API (http://www.subbu.org/weblogs/main/2007/12/a_restful_versi.html ) to be resource oriented, and it is not that hard. ...
Subbu Allamaraju
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... Subbu, here's a slightly different take on the same principle: http://blog.labnotes.org/2007/12/17/dehorrible-restifying-simpledb/ Assaf...
Assaf Arkin
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Dec 17, 2007
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That was quick :) Great. Subbu...
Subbu Allamaraju
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Dec 17, 2007
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... It was surprisingly easy, couple of hours. Assaf...
Assaf Arkin
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which only proves that doing good REST is as easy as bad REST. The trouble is that the "action-oriented" mindset maps very well into SOAP and not REST. This...
Subbu Allamaraju
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... And the resource mindset maps poorly to SOAP :-) ... Because for any given service it's quite likely to find consumes who will appreciate one and not the...
Assaf Arkin
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... We've seen this behavior before with competing, proprietary technology stacks and distributed-object approaches. A vendor was much more likely to get an...
David Sidlinger
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Dec 18, 2007
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... Yes. The same application I was talking about a couple days ago. There's also a (very limited) SOAP API. It went down something like this: * bizdev: hey,...
Chris Dent
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... Amazon did well in: == The 2006 'What Now How' Awards for REST Protocols* == with their S3 interface. Shame they've lost their touch and gone STREST**....
Duncan Cragg
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Here is another nominee for your 2007 Restless awards. Plaxo.com have their REST reference guide here [1]. I included a few samples, just to whet your...
Darrel Miller
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The good thing is that all these companies are trying to open up their systems with public APIs. However, the REST-branding is unfortunate. It is not just the...
Subbu Allamaraju
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(completing the rant) The good thing is that all these companies are trying to open up their systems with public APIs. However, the REST-branding is...
Subbu Allamaraju
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Dec 19, 2007
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... just as long as they set the don't cache headers on the responses, so you dont end up with stale get data....
Steve Loughran
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Has anyone voiced their concerns and suggestions on the Amazon Web Services forums? I spoke with a few of their engineers and project leaders. They are smart...
Steve Bjorg
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There is no official dev forum yet for SimpleDB. I just posted a reference to this thread on the AWS blog...
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