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Re: [rest-discuss] SimpleDB: welcome to 1999

On Dec 19, 2007 1:29 PM, Subbu Allamaraju <subbu.allamaraju@...> wrote:
> (completing the rant)
>
> The good thing is that all these companies are trying to open up their
> systems with public APIs. However, the REST-branding is unfortunate.
> It is not just the quality of these APIs that is bothering, but the
> quality of infrastructure they are building behind these APIs. Since
> these APIs are so HTTP-unfriendly, I can't help but conclude that
> these APIs are being implemented poorly over the web infrastructure
> without taking care of such basics as cacheability, idempotency etc.

just as long as they set the don't cache headers on the responses, so
you dont end up with stale get data.
Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:38 pm

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Is somebody from Amazon on this list? Please tell me you're not using GET requests like it describes here: ... 		Dimitri Glazkov
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10:37 pm

... I should probably not publicly admit that I looked at that for some time going "Why is 'GET ...
Karen
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... Amazon does the same thing with their ecommerce api, which this list has criticized long ago. Not that it did any good...I just checked, the latest...
Bob Haugen
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11:15 pm

This is a variant of what I call as SOAPy REST (http://subbu.org/weblogs/main/2007/10/soapy_rest.html ). Whoever wrote this API had no idea of why they were...
Subbu Allamaraju
sallamar
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... No, it's even much Much MUCH worse -- it uses GET for non-retrieval actions. BR, Julian...
Julian Reschke
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5:49 pm

... I nominate it for the 2007 Restless awards, in the much contested category of "things that claim to be RESTful but do side effects in their GETs" along...
Steve Loughran
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+1 I just tried to "refactor" this API (http://www.subbu.org/weblogs/main/2007/12/a_restful_versi.html ) to be resource oriented, and it is not that hard. ...
Subbu Allamaraju
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11:16 pm

... Subbu, here's a slightly different take on the same principle: http://blog.labnotes.org/2007/12/17/dehorrible-restifying-simpledb/ Assaf...
Assaf Arkin
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That was quick :) Great. Subbu...
Subbu Allamaraju
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... It was surprisingly easy, couple of hours. Assaf...
Assaf Arkin
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which only proves that doing good REST is as easy as bad REST. The trouble is that the "action-oriented" mindset maps very well into SOAP and not REST. This...
Subbu Allamaraju
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... And the resource mindset maps poorly to SOAP :-) ... Because for any given service it's quite likely to find consumes who will appreciate one and not the...
Assaf Arkin
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... We've seen this behavior before with competing, proprietary technology stacks and distributed-object approaches. A vendor was much more likely to get an...
David Sidlinger
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... Yes. The same application I was talking about a couple days ago. There's also a (very limited) SOAP API. It went down something like this: * bizdev: hey,...
Chris Dent
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... Amazon did well in: == The 2006 'What Now How' Awards for REST Protocols* == with their S3 interface. Shame they've lost their touch and gone STREST**....
Duncan Cragg
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Here is another nominee for your 2007 Restless awards. Plaxo.com have their REST reference guide here [1]. I included a few samples, just to whet your...
Darrel Miller
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The good thing is that all these companies are trying to open up their systems with public APIs. However, the REST-branding is unfortunate. It is not just the...
Subbu Allamaraju
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(completing the rant) The good thing is that all these companies are trying to open up their systems with public APIs. However, the REST-branding is...
Subbu Allamaraju
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9:29 pm

... just as long as they set the don't cache headers on the responses, so you dont end up with stale get data....
Steve Loughran
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Has anyone voiced their concerns and suggestions on the Amazon Web Services forums? I spoke with a few of their engineers and project leaders. They are smart...
Steve Bjorg
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There is no official dev forum yet for SimpleDB. I just posted a reference to this thread on the AWS blog...
Subbu Allamaraju
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