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Re: [rest-discuss] REST/SOAP ETCon session details?

Lucas Gonze wrote:
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> Not very productive. In general the horse-race story about REST vs. SOAP
> is overshadowing meaty stuff. EG, there seemed to be a grudge match
setup
> about Paul's Google article on xml.com.

IMHO, the discussion about meatier stuff is hampered by the types of
rhetoric we saw at the panel - remember when I took notes and then cited a
stream of terms like "democratrization", "no virtues", "binary would have
been just as good", etc? It would be much more productive (again, IMHO) if
we could talk in terms of specifics suggestions.

I also believe that most of the asserted virtues of either an all-GET (or
even a more-GET) approach seem to be stated in ways that go over the head
of most of the intended audience - even when we had a VERY technical
audience like we enjoyed at the ETCON.

The one point that I'm most proud of is when I contrasted SOAP vs REST vs
GET approaches in what I thought was a more digestible form. I was
pleasantly surprised that I got no pushback from those sitting to my right,
in fact after the panel you seemed to indicate that I had not
misrepresented REST.

If others who had attended feel that this part was comprehendable beyond
the scope of the people sitting on the panel, I will try to write it up.

- Sam Ruby




Sat May 18, 2002 12:29 am

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Can someone who was at the ETCon session on REST and SOAP give a summary? Wes Felter said it was "entertaining" but there was very little logged in IRC. --...
Ken MacLeod
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May 17, 2002
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... Not very productive. In general the horse-race story about REST vs. SOAP is overshadowing meaty stuff. EG, there seemed to be a grudge match setup about...
Lucas Gonze
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May 17, 2002
5:27 pm

...the most useful point from the con WRT REST is emerging consensus that web services has nothing to do with the web. It's fine for what it is, which is more...
Lucas Gonze
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May 17, 2002
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... setup ... IMHO, the discussion about meatier stuff is hampered by the types of rhetoric we saw at the panel - remember when I took notes and then cited a ...
Sam Ruby
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May 18, 2002
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... From a "getting stuff done" point of view, the thing was doomed from the start. I had always had a sense that that was the case but I figured that it was...
Paul Prescod
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May 18, 2002
9:17 pm

... What I find frustrating is the consistent, continued, and entirely unnecessary use of such derogatory terms. Quite frankly, it makes a rational discourse...
Sam Ruby
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May 18, 2002
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... I won't apologize, because I think that that's pretty par for the course on technical mailing lists on the Internet. After all, you aren't SOAP and SOAP...
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