Re: [rest-discuss] Re: Sun proposes to apply Web service standardization principles to REST
Marc, I already explained to Rajiv last November that I would not
allow Sun to go forward with the REST name in the API. It doesn't
make any sense to name one API as the RESTful API for Java, and I
simply cannot allow Sun to claim ownership of the name (which is
what the JSR process does by design). Change the API name to
something neutral, like JAX-RS.
Thanks, Marc. Good to get some light amidst the heat. :-) Importantly, it doesn't really seem like they (you?) are trying to "standardize REST", but merely...
Marc, I already explained to Rajiv last November that I would not allow Sun to go forward with the REST name in the API. It doesn't make any sense to name one...
... Roy, I think we may have gotten our wires crossed somewhere, when you discussed this with Rajiv last November you certainly didn't rule out any name with...
... o Why not just have an interface with the well known verbs on? I know Java5 makes annotations possible, but it is not clear they are always appropriate....
Hi Steve, You raise some interesting points, detailed discussion of which really belong in the expert group once it is formed. For now I'll take a shot at some...
... We're still waiting to hear if everyone is welcome in the expert group forum or if it will be a closed discussion. I hope it's the former, but if it's the...
Elliotte Harold
elharo@...
Feb 15, 2007 4:10 pm
... I would suggest that a critical use case is being able to manage this from a web-based interface; e.g. like WordPress is configured. That may not be part...
Elliotte Harold
elharo@...
Feb 15, 2007 4:15 pm
... You know, I think I trust Marc et all to come up with something worthwhile and put it in the hands of a lot of developers. What worries me most about REST...
... I am trying to tackle exactly this issue. I certainly agree that as a general statement, REST isn't testable as it is an architectural style ... however...
... Oh! that's excellent. Just the sort of thing I was thinking of. Well done. -- Nic Ferrier http://www.tapsellferrier.co.uk for all your tapsell ferrier...
... The reason you can't make REST testable is that REST isn't one thing. It's an architectural style. HTTP allows highly RESTfull systems. But an HTTP app can...
... That's either going to happen or we become the smug Lisp weenies of distributed systems. The question is are the REST community (us) and software designers...
... Hey. I'm a smug lisp weenie. ... Certainly there are better HTTP toolkits that need to be written. I was doing some openid hacking the other day with...
... Yeah... it's nice. But the fact that there are good frameworks out there wasn't my point. urllib2 comes with python, a language that supposedly gets the ...
... What's wrong with it? (he asks after just making the decision to focus the vast majority of his next language learning time on python...) -- -Mike Schinkel...
... It's very complex and not as configurable as it should be. I have been doing something interesting with SSL lately and was using Python. Python's default...
... Does httplib2 provide a way to set timeouts? I didn't see that in the docs. <rant> That's been my biggest complaint with python's standard network client ...
... That's always been a stated goal of the project, though I need to submit all the right forms and put a little more polish on the library before I actively...
So Paul would like to see something other than me going "aha! it's like the pirate code me hearties" and other people going "eurgh" and then there's an endless...
... I am certainly interested in collaboration - both with other people's efforts and bringing the knowledge of others into my own efforts. Alan Dean ...
... I think writing a client to automate anything will be difficult for the most important aspects of an architecture. Here is my quick list: Ad hoc...
Thanks for this. It's a fantastic list! ... Surely this doesn't need to be tested? An application is not non-RESTfull if it doesn't implement a method that we...
... I agree ... ... ... and disagree. There is nothing even remotely close to a definitive work on SOA. This is different with REST - obviously, Roy's...
... But it is explicit. It's difficult to say that about SOA. Then again is this really a useful way to speak - I could say "what worries me about design...
... yeah, I'm not speaking in favour of SOA, just that REST could be a little more concrete. OK not REST, but I'd like some more concrete to point at and...
... Build a RESTful standard. Build tests for it. You've now got testable REST and the rest of us can choose to use it or not. ... Depends on how much freedom...
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