... Do you have the alternative proposal drafted up anywhere? Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not seeing the benefit of the W3 proposal - surely any evil...
Hi all, My name is Pavan, and i am masters student started recently my thesis on REST. I started searching on net for REST research papers but hardly found 2...
Hi Pavan, This article might be useful for you: http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/WebServices/restful/ Additionally, there is a Java api (AX-RS...
... AFAIK, Justin R. Erenkrantz published a survey on a few web application tools & frameworks, "Architectural Styles of Extensible REST-based Applications" ...
Hey, In most places, REST is said to be a style in which the application state is a graph, with each resource/URI being a node, and hyperlinks being edges from...
Hi Devdatta, each URI identifies a different resource and each will upon GET return a representation that when consumed by the client alters the state it is in...
Hey, ... Umm , no! :) I know each URI represents a different resource etc. But I am asking a specific question as to how this can be seen in the graph that is ...
See http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/01/12/what-php-deployment-gets-right/ <excerpt> With the recent talk on the blogosphere about deployment (and for Django,...
Bob Haugen
bob.haugen@...
Feb 8, 2008 12:15 am
10357
... And?? What do long-running processes (or the lack thereof) have to do with REST? Jim...
... PHP is inherently stateless by design. Altho people can cheat in ways to make it more stateful, it cuts against the grain of each request-response pair...
Bob Haugen
bob.haugen@...
Feb 8, 2008 12:08 pm
10359
... If you notice, in OO design, we seldom talk about the actual runtime object graph. Instead, we use class diagram to represent an abstraction of the actual...
... What do you mean? ... If you discard state upon each request/response cycle you are are stateless. In each framework, anywhere. -- Lawrence, stacktrace.it...
Comments inline. ... I mean each interaction is independent by the way PHP works: loading and unloading completely per interaction. ... You can *use* any of...
Bob Haugen
bob.haugen@...
Feb 8, 2008 1:07 pm
10362
... Hi Dev, not sure of having understood the question. However from my point of view each URI should be a node and each node should "expose" an arbitrarily...
Hey, ... Mapping this is trivial. I don't care what is inside the node of a graph is not my concern... a node is a resource, at some instance what it will...
... Bob, That property of PHP has little to do with Restfulness. Of all things to compare frameworks on, the fact that it runs like a CGI script is about the...
... I disagree, but... ... I actually picked Django for my project, at least until I run into some showstopper. But I find that it is a lot more difficult and...
Bob Haugen
bob.haugen@...
Feb 8, 2008 8:06 pm
10366
... PHP has definite benefits when it comes to shared hosting, something Rails and J2EE were not designed to do. On the other hand, if you're running on a...
Hi Assaf, ... As I said, I am not pushing PHP here, and I understand what you are saying. I wd like to find a platform that can scale from the tiny to the...
Bob Haugen
bob.haugen@...
Feb 8, 2008 10:00 pm
10368
... I would have to disagree as well. I find that the shared-nothing mindset of PHP is certainly relevant and is quite "REST"-ish. Of course, what you can do...
... I would be curious to know what the "lot more capabilities" are that Rails and J2EE have over PHP. While I would agree that in many circumstances Rails or...
... A quick addendum: I actually like both of those books -- my point was to emphasize the importance of the underlying principles and not *simply* the favored...
... When documenting web application design, I find it easier not to draw the runtime resource graph. Just like in OO design, we seldom draw the runtime object...
I found this in pkgsrc-wip the other day, and wondered why I hadn't heard of it yet: http://www.hping.org/wbox/ I've found it quite useful already, thought it...
... Shared-nothing mindset? Sessions are built right into the core of PHP; AFAIK you can’t even compile a PHP binary that doesn’t have session support. Not...
... Well, in fact, I have built many PHP apps w/ lots of use & users and have never used PHP's built in session support -- in fact I generally advise against...
... Let me pick three (*), in no particular order: - If you choose GUI, Java has better tooling support for management, debugging, troubleshooting, monitoring,...
... All true, but my point is that you don't automatically benefit from those capabilities simply by choosing Java or Ruby if you do not not need them -- and...
Does anyone see issues with exposing a resource as write-only? If a resource is write-only, should the design be revisited? I read somewhere that its good...