... The atom:entry represents a particular resource with whatever content is specified by the atom:content element. The proper way to represent other types of...
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James McGovern
jm04469
Apr 2, 2008 9:45 am
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dfl_maradentro
Apr 2, 2008 1:33 pm
Hi you all, reading the book in [1], they say that, as REST is not only applicable to the Web, they propose a specific REST-based Web architecture, name ROA...
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Roger van de Kimmenade
rogervdkimme...
Apr 2, 2008 1:40 pm
I have read the book, but i do not know why it cannot. It is just another name , and is just like OO-architecture, in my opinion. Because the REST style is...
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Story Henry
hjsatdoc
Apr 2, 2008 1:42 pm
It is a nice book, and I started reviewing it here http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/restful_web_services_the_book But really there is no reason it could not...
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dfl_maradentro
Apr 2, 2008 2:35 pm
More precisely, the book says something like: "ROA, a way of turning a problem into a RESTful Web Service: an arrangement of URI's, HTTP, and XML... [...]", ...
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don.dwoske@...
ddwoske
Apr 2, 2008 3:03 pm
REST is not tied to any specific implementation technology...they are just design constraints. You can build a RESTful app on top of TCP, Styx[1] (someday...
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Roger van de Kimmenade
rogervdkimme...
Apr 2, 2008 4:31 pm
The difference is that ROA is based on HTTP, whereas in principle REST is not tied to HTTP, but HTTP 1.1 was setup the REST way. I think that is the...
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dfl_maradentro
Apr 2, 2008 4:44 pm
Uummm, ok, I thought REST was tied to HTTP (cause WWW is tied mostly to HTTP and REST to WWW). Thanks :) ... REST is ... REST, ... 40yahoogroups.com>, ... my ...
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don.dwoske@...
ddwoske
Apr 2, 2008 6:19 pm
It's very helpful to re-read Roy's dissertation. REST is only one chapter in a larger theme - the title of the dissertation is "Architectural Styles and the...
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Leonardo Boiko
leoboiko
Apr 3, 2008 4:00 pm
Hi list. Recently Roy Fielding has posted in his blog about ROA as defined in the RESTful book; he said that ROA doesn't focus enough in the "hypertext...
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stephan.koops
Apr 3, 2008 4:01 pm
Hi, I'm writing my masterthesis about an implementation of JAX-RS / JSR311 on top of Restlet, and also collected opinions about JAX-RS. I've read a lot of...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Apr 3, 2008 4:35 pm
Leonardo, it is all about minimizing the assumptions (and hence the coupling) the client of a Web application may make. When you (the client) make your way...
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Nick Gall
nick_gall_1117
Apr 3, 2008 6:18 pm
Perhaps this simple example will highlight the difference in emphasis between HATEOAS and "mere connectedness". Let's take a hypothetical wiki. Like any wiki,...
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Leonardo Boiko
leoboiko
Apr 3, 2008 7:13 pm
So it seems I was not that far off? In that case, I think HATEOAS is actually a good, concise technical term. The problem is that it depends on understanding...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Apr 3, 2008 7:34 pm
Leonardo, ... In my reading this sounds misleading. I'd rather say: 1) Transferring state as representations 2) Communicating state transition options as...
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Leonardo Boiko
leoboiko
Apr 3, 2008 7:37 pm
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Jan Algermissen ... Isn't that saying the same thing, only more detailed? Or am I missing something again? -- Leonardo Boiko ...
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dev
bertie_woost...
Apr 3, 2008 7:42 pm
... States aren't resources! Resources are well resources , any useful thing , data etc. in the real world*.... sayings states are resources is just wrong. it...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Apr 3, 2008 7:43 pm
... Just wanted to be more precise because your wording (in my reading) could be read differently. ... If you agree with my wording (and if I am not missing...
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Leonardo Boiko
leoboiko
Apr 3, 2008 7:54 pm
... Doesn't the point of HATEOAS requires that application states be exposed as resources, as described in "RESTful Web Services"? How you can use hypermedia...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Apr 3, 2008 7:58 pm
... resources != states (resource == membership function[1]) You can obtain applications state by dereferencing a resource. Jan [1]...
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Leonardo Boiko
leoboiko
Apr 3, 2008 8:22 pm
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Jan Algermissen ... Which is what I tried to said (fuzzly) with "application states as resources": application states as...
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Nick Gall
nick_gall_1117
Apr 3, 2008 9:53 pm
... No! Or at least not necessarily. I can have a resource such as temperature sensor in my house with the URL www.ironick.com/myhouse/tempsensor And it...
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Leonardo Boiko
leoboiko
Apr 3, 2008 9:57 pm
I see, thanks. Jan's description sounds much better than mine now. -- Leonardo Boiko http://namakajiri.net...
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Steve Loughran
steve_loughran
Apr 4, 2008 8:24 am
... There's no requirement that you have to have a network in the REST architecture either, both Restlet and NetKernel let you glue things together in process...
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Jon Hanna
hack_poet
Apr 4, 2008 9:52 am
I think the easiest way to consider hypermedia-as-engine is the consider an *extremely* simple web site that you might do when teaching a child HTML. ...
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Josh Sled
joshsled
Apr 6, 2008 3:19 pm
... While that might be a good idea, I notice that the thesis is dominated by a discussion of network-based architecture. Chapters 2 and 3 are titled ...
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Sebastien Lambla
serialseb
Apr 7, 2008 11:28 am
303 and httpRange-14 is a benefit. ... From: rest-discuss@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rest-discuss@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Subbu Allamaraju Sent: 31 March...
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Steve Loughran
steve_loughran
Apr 8, 2008 12:02 pm
... -If you've ever spent time with intra-process communications using COM, you'd see that latency can still be an issue. The time taken to marshall and send a...
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dev
bertie_woost...
Apr 13, 2008 9:56 am
Hey In the same post, Dr. Fielding says " it makes sense to compare REST to the blackboard style (they do have a lot in common, as styles go). " And the thesis...
