Mark; Mark>> I didn't see any use cases in the original e-mail; did I miss something? An example or two tends to focus discussion well... Example use-cases?...
Mark Nottingham>> This is good and I agree that in a perfect world, more flexibility would have been designed in from the start. However, to put them into the...
... The Mechanize family of libraries would presumably be able to take advantage of them as they do current forms. With mechanize you can ask a headless client...
... Because you're not introducing your idea to a new proposal that will succeed or fail on its own merits; you're trying to get it into one of the most...
Mark Nottingham>>Sorry, but no. Each of those, as Ian says, can be implemented with a very simple server-side script. Yes, it's true that this requires...
*sigh* we seem to be talking past each other... despite appearances, I actually think this is a pretty good idea; I just am concerned about how you're going...
... Speaking of which: that one (hinclude) is totally useful; and it would also help with one of the cases Google's recent dictionary-based compression...
Mark Nottingham>>despite appearances, I actually think this is a pretty good idea; I just am concerned about how you're going about getting it accepted. I can...
... Yes, but consider how little HTML is allowed by most of these, and why... ... Of course; the point I was trying to make is that avoiding a roundtrip isn't...
Mark Nottingham>> Of course; the point I was trying to make is that avoiding a roundtrip isn't going to motivate a whole new technology, at least one that's so...
I see the use cases, but what is the server gaining with this flexibility? In other words, how many servers out there are going to benefit from this technique?...
... I don't disagree, and I do see the value of templates for non-browser scenarios. But the most of the web today won't be taking advantage of this for a long...
Erik Wilde>> ( mike, please correct me if i am wrong. ) You are right, thanks. You explained it in a way that hadn't occurred to me to explain it; loose...
Subbu>> I don't disagree, and I do see the value of templates for non-browser scenarios. But the most of the web today won't be taking advantage of this for a...
@Ian>>This might be a good time to bring the FAQ to people's attention -- it ... http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#Is_there_a_process_for_adding_new_features_t ...
... Not sure how you came to that conclusion, but I find that argument a stretch. If I understand correctly, Mike's argument for supporting templates is to...
... ...i don't think we should make that distinction of servers; on the contrary, i think the web should take every step possible into a direction where that...
Eric and Mike, I am not convinced that URI templates will reduce that disparity. The point I was trying to make yesterday was that, when these servers become...
... follow the same techniques that HTML clients follow *today*. I must be missing something but I don't see how that's a problem. Why can't HTML be used for a...
Hi, I had an idea a while ago. As I'm writing a REST enabler toolkit, and as i know others do exist too, it would be of great help to have a test harness to...
Hence my description of "a test harness to ensure valid http / webarch behavior". The group of specifications would hopefully be a REST architecture, the...
If you plan on doing REST over HTTP, may I recommend WOA as a term? It's defined as WOA = SOA + WWW + REST. Removes the ambiguity when talking about either an...
I agree with Steve. A test harness for REST-over-HTTP could be valuable though; however it can't be ignorant of media-types. How can such a test harness assess...
Alan, I would imagine there is a reasonable good test surface for HTTP even without knowledge of content-types. Your diagram is a great resource for this!...
Alan, your diagram certainly is one of the reasons that leads me to believe that such a test harness / architecture specification would be valuable. It helps ...
I agree: a generic HTTP test harness would have value too, aside from REST. A couple of people tried to help out with the conversion to SVG but to no avail...
All, Here is the presentation [1] that I will be giving at DDD7 [2] in two weeks time and then taking on the road to the UK User Community (I've already booked...
... I positively hate the term "WOA"; IMO it's the beginning of turning something well-defined into the same meaningless pseudo-science we have around "SOA". ...
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