Greg: Not sure if this is what you're asking, but I recently worked on a project that had a "Create" process that involved multiple tabs on a form including ...
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Bob Haugen
bob.haugen@...
Jul 24, 2009 11:15 am
... Mike, you just described yet another instance of the provisional-final transaction pattern....
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fuzzybsc
Jul 25, 2009 8:46 am
G'day, Code on demand is the optional constraint in REST. Roy's thesis has this to say in section 3.5.3: "In the code-on-demand style [50], a client component...
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Mike Kelly
pleb1985
Jul 27, 2009 8:59 am
... Hi Dhananjay, Why would application state always be the same for all representations of a resource? ... That is, essentially, what I was suggesting ... I...
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Dhananjay Nene
dnene
Jul 27, 2009 9:08 am
... An application state reflects where the user is in the overall workflow supported / managed by the application. It is therefore not dependent upon the...
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Mike Kelly
pleb1985
Jul 27, 2009 9:22 am
... A bookmark is an application state a user would like to return to. Given that application state must be driven by hypermedia - a bookmark can be considered...
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Mike Kelly
pleb1985
Jul 27, 2009 9:45 am
... I'm not sure if I understand the distinction you make between application and resource state ... If a bookmark is not a stored reference to a given...
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Dhananjay Nene
dnene
Jul 27, 2009 9:55 am
Mike, ... XHTML / JSON formats are an attribute of the resource representation - they cannot be an attribute of the application state, since from an...
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Mike Kelly
pleb1985
Jul 27, 2009 10:26 am
... This seems to imply tight coupling between resource and application state. I can't agree that these are the same states from an application perspective...
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Dhananjay Nene
dnene
Jul 27, 2009 11:41 am
My comments at the very end. ... I think it boils down to the fact whether one interprets a control-header and a representation format to influence an...
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Sebastien Lambla
serialseb
Jul 27, 2009 11:56 am
... I'm going back to what I stated before. If you care about identifying separate things, then they should be separate things. Conneged representations are...
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Mike Kelly
pleb1985
Jul 27, 2009 1:34 pm
Seb, Essentially: I don't assume just because I need to provide a hyperlink to a representation, that it must have its own URI. Maybe it is possible to have a...
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Sebastien Lambla
serialseb
Jul 27, 2009 2:37 pm
... That's the state of web architecture, and of ReST over http. ... URIs identify resources. If you provide a new media type that requires both URI and...
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Mark Baker
gonga_thrash
Jul 28, 2009 5:57 pm
I consider plugins to be code-on-demand. They just have an awful UI as commonly implemented. Mark....
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Sean Kennedy
seandkennedy
Jul 30, 2009 10:13 am
Hi, I recently wrote a paper outlining a framework that would RESTify SOAP requests e.g. a SOAP request would be mapped to a RESTful GET/PUT/POST/DELETE. One...
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Sam Johnston
sam.johnston...
Jul 30, 2009 10:25 am
URL length restrictions are real - for example Internet Explorer chokes after 2083 characters <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/208427>;. Worse, they're...
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Sean Kennedy
seandkennedy
Jul 30, 2009 10:35 am
Thanks Sam. The reference will be useful. I suppose my query is : are SOAP requests that complex that they cannot be accomodated in a GET? Regards, Sean. ...
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Ebenezer Ikonne
amaeze77
Jul 30, 2009 12:12 pm
... What is the complexity? I don't get that. I haven't experienced this personally....
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Sean Kennedy
seandkennedy
Jul 30, 2009 12:47 pm
Yes, I agree, the uniform interface should be maintained. In other words, if the SOAP message is "updateCustomer" then that should map to a PUT, "addCutomer"...
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António Mota
amsmota
Jul 30, 2009 1:24 pm
Our current REST-like infrastructure was designed from the ground-up to support several connectors, and we have at the moment HTTP, IMAP, JMS and IntraVM...
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David Stanek
dstanekatt
Jul 30, 2009 1:30 pm
... You can use the body for a PUT and a POST. All of the data should not be on the query string. It sounds like you may be confusing REST with "jam everything...
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Philippe Mougin
pmougin2001
Jul 30, 2009 2:33 pm
... Note that SOAP is now able to use GET to do a get. See SOAP 1.2 - HTTP GET usage (http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part0/#L26854). Philippe Mougin...
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Sean Kennedy
seandkennedy
Jul 30, 2009 3:30 pm
Yes, good point. If SOAP 1.2 with the WebMethod enables GET, which would have the benefit of enabling cache intermediaries, then why isn't is used more often?...
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Justin Cormack
cuttlefish42
Jul 30, 2009 5:28 pm
... In theory but read "It should be noted that SOAP Version 1.2 does not specify any algorithm on how to compute a URI from the definition of an RPC which has...
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Philippe Mougin
pmougin2001
Jul 30, 2009 6:32 pm
... Well, not necessarily. RPC is one possible usage of SOAP but other usages (mostly, exchanging XML messages) exist as well. Fundamentally SOAP defines an...
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Will Hartung
gaminginparis
Jul 30, 2009 7:01 pm
... Yes, it's accurate. There are many domains that pass around very complicated requests, and the requests are very large. There's no way, in a general case,...
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Eric Newcomer
e_newcomer
Jul 31, 2009 10:04 am
The dicussions about SOAP and Web services in general often suffer from a lack of distinction between what's in the specifications, and what is actually...
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Sean Kennedy
seandkennedy
Jul 31, 2009 11:31 am
With XML, the larger the file size, the more the XML metadata that is present. I believe that the XML metadata can be stripped out when mapping to a URI and...
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Bill Burke
patriot1burke
Jul 31, 2009 8:06 pm
Doesn't HTTP Keep-Alive handle this scenario? Then the listener would continually being doing GETs (or POSTs). Its a little less efficient, but does this...
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Bill Burke
patriot1burke
Jul 31, 2009 8:26 pm
I hate to turn this into a WS-* vs. REST debate, but, a few things I don't like about WS-* is that: * It doesn't leverage HTTP * It requires an envelope...
