On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Jan Algermissen <algermissen1971@...> ... Either both are or neither are. If (i) means "organizing its URI space in a...
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Benjamin Carlyle < ... coin a ... our ... Since the long run goal of REST-* is to adhere all the REST constraints, but in the...
Perhaps a 'restful bookmark' would include the 'hypermedia path' taken to find that URI so that it can backtrack if the URI-spacechanges? Alexandros...
... The more I look into link relations, the messier it gets. I'm wondering if there's a mailing list/group/etc where discussions on link relations take...
... I don't think this works for the most common use case of bookmarking in automata. Namely, using URIs to identify a resource in a remote system that was...
The creation of bookmark/URI dependency is unavoidable and their creation is always up to the client. Servers have the necessary mechanisms with HTTP by which...
... That is true, of course, but it is also deeply unsatisfactory. One of the things that REST does rather effectively is allow for serendipitous reuse by...
... If a server implements such a mechanism (a requirement of being cool), then a client can legitimately depend on a bookmark or a URI template and rely upon...
... client, then a solution to that would be to react to a 301 Moved Permanently response by updating the referring bookmark's URI with the value of the ...
I think I forgot to include the list in the last email by mistake: ... If the inefficiency of redirected bookmarks was of potential concern to a client, then a...
... I don't, personally, make any distinction. Entry point URIs are exactly the same as any other URI; where the identified resource can be moved and...
Perhaps there is no need to distinguish "entry point" and "transitional" URIs, If you treat all URIs as transitional, who cares when the transition occurs (2ms...
... If the inefficiency of redirected bookmarks was of potential concern to a client, then a solution to that would be to react to a 301 Moved Permanently...
Hullo Benjamin, I must admit I am having some trouble understanding the distinction you make between server state and application state. In principal I get...
... What this really points to is a hidden complexity requirement on the part of the client. It's a matter of robustness. A trivial client can use URI via hard...
Hello. Dilip posted a news item at InfoQ <http://www.infoq.com/news/2009/09/restlet-extension-micorosoft> about a RESTFul bridge between Java and .NET ADO. It...
... Benjamin, I suggest you take a look at CCXML (http://www.w3.org/TR/ccxml/). It's a hypermedia format for interfacing with a call control system -- it...
... No, REST has no such distinctions. They might occur in practice, but that is neither here nor there. REST does not distinguish them. ... Umm, all of my...
... Good. Then we agree. ... Agreed. But note such 301 behavior, reliably and systematically implemented, would enable a client to safely rely upon URI...
... Why would navigating imply transient URIs? There are times when the best RESTful design will conflict with UI guidelines (split-page processing) or browser...
... Umm, maybe the several hundred conversations I've had on the topic with TimBL in the room. Cool URIs are permanent, so if you want to be cool then make...
Hi William, Thanks for looking into Restlet (note it is written in lower case). Lots of good questions! I'm not sure if this list is the best place to discuss...
Thank you all for the excellent discussion and the suggestions about the confirmation URL X RESTful Web-Services, I wrote a short summary of our discussion,...
... So where (or if) do Links + URI Templates come in? Is it ok to define a link relationship that is a template following RFC-xxx and to specify in the link...
... Well, I'm just now fully grasping this "link-relations-are-universal-and-independent-of-media-type" thing, but precedence has been set I think. The...
Tim, I fully agree with you here. I keep taking a look at HTML (which Roy was and is heavily involved with) for inspiration as a key component in moving the...
