... From: "Robert Leftwich" <robert@...> ... hypertext' wiki page along with the comment 'No attempts to RESTify this example have been reported'...
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S. Mike Dierken
mdierken
Jun 1, 2002 8:01 am
I've posted it to the Wiki as well: http://internet.conveyor.com/RESTwiki/moin.cgi/RestGoesToMaui (say g'night gracie...) ... From: "S. Mike Dierken"...
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bhaugen32
Jun 1, 2002 11:51 am
I'm gonna watch Mike Dierken and you roll with the RESTification and just respond to one issue here. Nice title, Mike! ... Here's two: * A leg of the trip is...
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bhaugen32
Jun 1, 2002 12:19 pm
Robert, Mike, anybody, Do you know if this is a realistic travel-agent scenario? For example, I would have thought that the agent would put a temporary hold on...
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Philip Eskelin
philip_eskelin
Jun 2, 2002 6:52 am
Mike wrote: [snip] ... [snip] Quick HTTP question: is it standard to include a Location header field with 202 responses? After looking at RFC 2616 (sect...
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Roger L. Costello
costello@...
Jun 2, 2002 7:00 pm
HTTP allows persistent connections. That is, the client initiates a request and the connection stays open until the client closes it. While it is open the...
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Roger L. Costello
costello@...
Jun 2, 2002 8:09 pm
I think that I understand the REST abstraction of an HTTP GET: A resource is an abstraction of a concept. How the resource is implemented is encapsulated....
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Robert Leftwich
robert@...
Jun 2, 2002 9:23 pm
My take on this from an HTTP spec perspective (see http://internet.conveyor.com/RESTwiki/moin.cgi/HttpMethods - an extract from the HTTP specs) is as follows: ...
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rest-discuss@yahoogro...
Jun 2, 2002 9:55 pm
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the rest-discuss group. File : / Looking...
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Robert Leftwich
robert@...
Jun 2, 2002 11:28 pm
... That was to allow access to the sub-resources directly, allowing changes to participants, stages, etc The usefulness of this probably varies depending on...
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Mark Baker
distobj@...
Jun 3, 2002 3:08 am
... "Stateless" just means that all the information that's needed to interpret the meaning of the message, is available in the message itself. The type of...
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Mark Baker
distobj@...
Jun 3, 2002 3:26 am
POST doesn't have to create new resources, it can just be a logical "add" where what is "added" can be consumed as soon as it's processed and not provided its...
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Jason Petrone
jpetrone@...
Jun 3, 2002 3:29 pm
... Pass by reference is a problem in distributed systems, but it seems to be solved in CORBA, and I believe in DCOM as well. The problem I usually think of...
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S. Mike Dierken
mdierken
Jun 3, 2002 4:49 pm
... From: "Philip Eskelin" <philip@...> ... with 202 ... Location ... the ... client ... Nope - that was my little addition. I haven't sent a mail to...
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S. Mike Dierken
mdierken
Jun 3, 2002 4:51 pm
... From: "Roger L. Costello" <costello@...> ... No - the requests are (should) be independent. They each must specify resource, method, auth, encoding,...
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S. Mike Dierken
mdierken
Jun 3, 2002 4:59 pm
... From: "Robert Leftwich" <robert@...> ... to participants, stages, etc If as a URI the participant would be "Trip1/participants/Participant1",...
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S. Mike Dierken
mdierken
Jun 3, 2002 5:03 pm
... From: "Robert Leftwich" <robert@...> ... one? ... else for that matter). Another mike-ism. I think it is useful to identify the meaning the...
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S. Mike Dierken
mdierken
Jun 3, 2002 5:04 pm
... From: "Jason Petrone" <jpetrone@...> ... By 'rebuild' to you mean 're-acquire' or do you mean that the URI has the full state of the object?...
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Jason Petrone
jpetrone@...
Jun 3, 2002 5:52 pm
... Correct me if I am wrong, but I meant that "the URI has the full state of the object." I suppose there will be some cases where encoding the full state in...
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S. Mike Dierken
mdierken
Jun 3, 2002 8:51 pm
... From: "Jason Petrone" <jpetrone@...> To: <rest-discuss@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [rest-discuss]...
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S. Mike Dierken
mdierken
Jun 4, 2002 5:20 am
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ediint-as2-11.txt HTTP Transport for Secure Peer-to-Peer Business Data Interchange over the Internet ... ...
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Roger L. Costello
costello@...
Jun 4, 2002 12:26 pm
Hi Folks, Below is an except from Fielding's REST dissertation, describing why cookies are not RESTful. Can someone explain what he is saying here? "Likewise,...
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Mark Baker
distobj@...
Jun 4, 2002 12:42 pm
... You know that cookies are stateful, right? That is, they make it so that there isn't enough information in the HTTP message to understand what it does,...
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Lucas Gonze
lgonze@...
Jun 4, 2002 12:42 pm
Basically he's saying that cookies are a quick hack that ignores REST. Rather than specifying session state in a message header, session state should be part...
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Allan Doyle
mit80eecs
Jun 4, 2002 1:38 pm
... Just a nit. The second part of that sentence is true, but the first part is not the issue. Any individual HTTP message need not contain the state, let...
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Mark Baker
distobj@...
Jun 4, 2002 2:02 pm
Allan, ... No, the first part is the issue (though I could have chosen a better word than "does"). You appear to be confusing "stateful interaction" with...
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Allan Doyle
mit80eecs
Jun 4, 2002 2:09 pm
... I read it differently because the subject was cookies. Cookies are for session state, i.e. stateful service. ... Yes, I agree fully with this. ... and...
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bhaugen32
Jun 4, 2002 2:39 pm
... checkout. Why couldn't the shopping basket be kept on the server, with a customer-specific URI? Why is it any different than an uncommitted order? The...
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bhaugen32
Jun 4, 2002 2:47 pm
State-Alignment Transaction Model AKA RosettaNet/ebXML/UNCEFACT Business Transactions This transaction model was first published for RosettaNet (as far as I...
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Mark Baker
distobj@...
Jun 4, 2002 3:11 pm
... There are cases when you'd want this, for example when the shopping basket did things very specific to the app. But generally, I don't think that shopping...
