Hi Eric, Comments in line ... You sound like you're agreeing with me, the way Seb uses the term 'identifying function' implied we were talking abouts...
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Glenn Block
glenn_block
Jun 1, 2010 7:00 pm
OK, thank you again. ... -- Sent from my mobile device...
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Mark Baker
gonga_thrash
Jun 1, 2010 7:28 pm
... Not exactly, it just says it uses XML syntax, but close enough... ... Sure, it's just not proven particularly valuable in practice. Opera does XML...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Jun 1, 2010 7:57 pm
... Really? I'd opt for orthogonal specs every time. I see no disadvantage, only positive effects. ... Just checked - yes, HTML5 does but HTML4 wisely does...
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Sebastien Lambla
serialseb
Jun 1, 2010 8:09 pm
You sound like you're agreeing with me, the way Seb uses the term 'identifying function' implied we were talking abouts representations not resource, which is...
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mike amundsen
mamund
Jun 1, 2010 8:11 pm
my final comments inline... mca http://amundsen.com/blog/ http://mamund.com/foaf.rdf#me ... You're free to opt for whatever you wish. ... Yes, HTML5 mentions...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Jun 1, 2010 8:38 pm
... Hmm - but <accept> tells me what I can POST to a collection. Somehow I am missing what you mean...? Jan...
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mike amundsen
mamund
Jun 1, 2010 8:50 pm
Jan: <snip> ... </snip> Possibly I've mis-communicated. My recent replies on this thread were addressed to the use content-types with POST & PUT, not GET. The...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Jun 1, 2010 8:54 pm
... Hmm - but I am talking about the <accept> element...... <confused/> Jan ... Jan Algermissen, Consultant NORD Software Consulting Mail: algermissen@... ...
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mike amundsen
mamund
Jun 1, 2010 9:01 pm
Aha! you mean the APP accept element [1]? [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023#section-8.3.4 mca http://amundsen.com/blog/ http://mamund.com/foaf.rdf#me...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Jun 1, 2010 9:02 pm
... Yes. Jan ... Jan Algermissen, Consultant NORD Software Consulting Mail: algermissen@... Blog: http://www.nordsc.com/blog/ Work: http://www.nordsc.com/...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Jun 1, 2010 11:57 pm
... I assure you, I am not agreeing with you. ... Yes, I've been designing hypermedia-driven HTML applications for browsers since 1993, using conneg since...
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Alan Dean
alan_james_dean
Jun 2, 2010 7:19 am
I'm with Eric on this. As an example, each @type has it's own lanneg+conneg 'leaf' URI on my CV website http://about.alan-dean.com/ which is controlled from...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Jun 2, 2010 7:24 am
Glenn, ... Will this only be lunch or are we planning for lunch+afternoon+drinkies? Glenn, will *you* set the exact date (so we can arrange travel?). Jan ... ...
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Sebastien Lambla
serialseb
Jun 2, 2010 7:24 am
I can guarantee you lunch + afternoon + drinkies in central London if that helps. :) ... From: Jan Algermissen [mailto:algermissen1971@...] Sent: 02 June...
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Glenn Block
glenn_block
Jun 2, 2010 9:25 am
I should know tomorrow....
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Julian Everett
julianjeverett
Jun 2, 2010 11:13 am
Hi Glen, Fwiw some other things beyond the central role of hypermedia that personally I'd like to see: 1.) Creating new resources should be cheap and hassle...
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Sebastien Lambla
serialseb
Jun 2, 2010 11:46 am
As Julian is making those points, I'll personally say that I don't see adding this functionality to either the existing WCF or the existing MVC as a worthwhile...
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Mike Kelly
pleb1985
Jun 2, 2010 2:11 pm
... Agreed, that does happen all the time, but at a significant cost to visibility since it results in invisible resources dependencies. Reduced visibility...
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Glenn Block
glenn_block
Jun 2, 2010 8:05 pm
In yesterday's thread the topic of transparent content neg was brought up. ( http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023#section-8.3.4) How critical / useful is relying...
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Glenn Block
glenn_block
Jun 3, 2010 12:26 am
I get HATEOS for human interaction. I am trying to undestand pure m2m benefits. If I think of a scenario of an Order management server host. I can imagine that...
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Glenn Block
glenn_block
Jun 3, 2010 12:29 am
Correction to types in the last para: Anyway the advantage I saw in such a system is that the institutions that work with me can create any arbitrary set of...
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Will Hartung
gaminginparis
Jun 3, 2010 1:41 am
At that level, your client is "pretty stupid". It's simply iterating through links in some pre-determined manner. May as well smash the "Next Line" button in...
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Glenn Block
glenn_block
Jun 3, 2010 1:46 am
This was an over simplification. As I mentioned there is quite a bit of processing going on, this was just one example of rules becoming more scalable. I also...
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Glenn Block
glenn_block
Jun 3, 2010 2:02 am
Just read through your detailed explanation so thank you for that. I think the system I described is doing many of the things you described. Rules are...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Jun 3, 2010 7:26 am
On Jun 3, 2010, at 2:26 AM, Glenn Block wrote: [snip] ... That is the mobile code style (part of REST), where the user agent functionality is extended by...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Jun 3, 2010 7:27 am
Glenn, ... Since you are early to use that silly acronym there might be a chance for a fix :-) The thingy is called "hypermedia constraint" if you can, please...
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Alan Dean
alan_james_dean
Jun 3, 2010 8:41 am
Glenn, Personally, I find it easier to sketch out what the HTTP interactions might look like. In your example of financials data processing, I think that I ...
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Mike Kelly
pleb1985
Jun 3, 2010 9:23 am
Savas Parastatidis, Jim Webber, Guilherme Silveira and Ian Robinson wrote a paper for the REST track at WWW2010 titled "The Role of Hypermedia in Distributed...
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Sebastien Lambla
serialseb
Jun 3, 2010 10:53 am
There's only one valid answer to taht question: It depends :) Transparent conneg, be it locale, charset or media type, is useful as long as the difference...
