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Interesting talk. He says that IP is the "waist" of the Internet. Many protocols below it (Ethernet, ATM, PPP) many above it. But only one IP (well, two with...
Paul Prescod
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Jul 2, 2002
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Get yer gear here... http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/productdetail.aspx?prodno=rest.2592837...
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... Okay i'll have a go at this one :) 1) Object-Object interactions (semantics) OO systems have interactions between object and the semantic meaning of these...
Mikael Andersson
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I think of REST as the set of principles that assure the end-to-end principle at the HTTP protocol level. Seth Johnson ... -- [CC] Counter-copyright: ...
Seth Johnson
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I think you've got some important ideas in there! REST (especially HTTP GET) is about "give me the data and don't tell me what to do with it." OOP is designed...
Paul Prescod
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... How is this any different from a description of REST, you still use methods (albeit standardized HTTP methods) to alter the state of a resource, with the...
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First i'd like to state this: One can call (almost) any system 'OO' if you look har enough. In the same way as all systems is procedureal to the core (as...
Mikael Andersson
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... Here's a working guide to various definitions of OO: <http://www.paulgraham.com/reesoo.html> Bill de hÓra .. Propylon www.propylon.com...
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Hello, ressources.humaines@... As se en on NB C, CBS, and CN N, and even Opr ah! The health discove ry that actually revers es aging while...
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Mark Baker wrote in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2002Jul/0042.html ... How about the case we discussed previously about implementing the ...
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... There is something else going on, but it is an extension of HTTP. I think of things like WebDAV and Offer/Acceptance as plugins. You should be able to...
Paul Prescod
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I'm currently looking at how a REST approach handles security and would value some feedback. As has been described elsewhere the resource-centric approach...
Robert Leftwich
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... Really? What large-scale services depend on XML-RPC to the extent that they do HTTP, FTP or SMTP? I don't think I have any mainstream software using...
Paul Prescod
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... Are you serious? J2EE has almost the same level of complexity as SOAP and it is a single vendor set of pseudo-standards (JCP not withstanding) that *only*...
Robert Leftwich
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... J2EE is a particular instance of a SOAP toolkit. Zope is another. PHP/Apache is another. ASP/IIS is another. J2EE just has the most hype right now so I...
Paul Prescod
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... ^^^^^^ Was that a Freudian slip :-) ... Given your history I guess I expected a bit more of a Python push :-) Robert...
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... SOAP and Zope. For entirely non-technical reasons it is hard to think of one without the other! ... Well if someone was asking my opinion of what to use......
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... J2EE is way (waayy) more complicated than SOAP; EJB+Servlets+JDBC+JAAS+RMI-IIOP+JNDI+JMS... ... In fairness, a good amount of the J2EE stuff goes through...
Bill de hÓra
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... I don't see the problem. REST is the architecture of the Web and a REST toolkit would be a piece of software that helps you build the mediating layer...
Paul Prescod
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... The problem is that is not a meaningful distinction to make; at best it's just co-opting systems by rebadging them. Along these lines, GNU Linux is a REST...
Bill de hÓra
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... Paul, Why do you insist on arguing over the individual trees instead of looking at the forest? I didn't bother replying when you casually filed away my...
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Hmmm, I'm a bit hesitant to chime in here, because this forum is generally a bit over my head, so apologies if I am OT... Many young script-monkeys (like...
Ed Lucas
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... I have been lurking on this list for a while and have come to similar conclusions about WebDAV. I don't claim to fully understand all the ideas of REST and...
Paul Sandoz
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... From: "Robert Leftwich" <robert@...> ... Without an independent URI for the added link, you can't DELETE the link (since you can't identify the...
S. Mike Dierken
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Jul 5, 2002
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... From: "Bill de hÓra" <dehora@...> ... That's because it's doing different things. I wouldn't include IIOP (from Corba) or RMI (from Java) -...
S. Mike Dierken
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... From: "Ed Lucas" <ejl@...> ... It is a very good idea in my opinion. And I think it is /required/ to get applications built to the REST approach. ...
S. Mike Dierken
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... Aha! So what you are lacking is sample code and documentation. That's very different than a toolkit. ... SOAP doesn't work that way if you actually want to...
Paul Prescod
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... Okay, here's the forest as I see it: SOAP has existed for about 2 1/2 years, and from very early on has been heavily promoted by both Microsoft and IBM. It...
Matt Gushee
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Jul 5, 2002
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... In a mailing list thread you are usually trying to discuss some specific topic. I didn't just file it, I also told you how to do the equivalent in HTTP. ...
Paul Prescod
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... Actually, you should read this: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2001/04/04/soap.html ... IIRC, Lotus Notes and Compuserve had all of the industry momentum in ...
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