Hi Alistair, ... That would certainly work in the sense of bringing the cost down, but it would be a shadow of a SPARQL endpoint from the point of view of ...
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Alistair Miles
alistair.miles
Feb 4, 2011 9:02 am
Hi Mark, ... That's a good point. But I do wonder if there is still a middle-ground worth a bit of exploration. By that I mean, for any given endpoint, based...
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Danny Ayers
danny_ayers
Feb 4, 2011 9:50 am
The Talis Platform (http://talis.com/platform) is a Software as a Service system providing SPARQL-capable RDF stores alongside stores for arbitrary content...
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Bob Ferris
b.ferris...
Feb 4, 2011 10:27 am
Hi, I recently got aware of Fuseki[1], a SPARQL server. The claim on the wiki is: "It provides the REST-style SPARQL HTTP Update, and SPARQL Query and SPARQL...
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Nathan
nathanrixham
Feb 4, 2011 2:27 pm
Hi All, It's been asserted that the following is RESTful, so I thought it may be more beneficial to get the REST communities feedback on this particular 'REST...
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William Martinez Poma...
willmarpo
Feb 4, 2011 3:16 pm
Hi Nathan. I personally dislike a little anything that uses URI templating. In this case, always open to discussion, we have several URIs each representing one...
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Bipin U
bipin_upd
Feb 4, 2011 4:03 pm
Hi All, I know the theoritical benifits of REST Services. What I want to know in particular is What are the motivations for migrating services to REST approach...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Feb 4, 2011 4:37 pm
... It is not RESTful because the URIs to use are provided at design time (as a service description) while they should be discovered via hypermedia at runtime....
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Feb 4, 2011 5:32 pm
... Well, that's one of 'em. In REST circles, you'll encounter the phrase "HTTP != REST" which means that REST is a subset of the things you can do with HTTP,...
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Nathan
nathanrixham
Feb 4, 2011 5:37 pm
... and weirdly HTTP is not a superset of REST, as in you can't do everything with HTTP that REST indicates you could/should (the mismatches) fair comment?...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Feb 4, 2011 5:48 pm
... Sigh. HTTP != REST. This is a nonstarter. Makes a fine HTTP API, if only it would call itself that. -Eric...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Feb 4, 2011 6:03 pm
Limiting myself to one constraint, self-descriptive messaging. In the uniform interface, a list of links is presented using markup which unambiguously...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Feb 4, 2011 6:08 pm
... Absolutely. But, assuming a RESTful design, HTTP could be replaced in the future with Waka, HTTP 2, or whatever -- clearing up those mismatches inherent...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Feb 4, 2011 6:48 pm
... Or, use the Link header, nowadays... ... Actually, it's their @href which imparts those semantics... -Eric...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Feb 4, 2011 6:57 pm
Now, if there's some sort of processing model we're dealing with here beyond just recognizing how to read URIs from a document, which isn't described by any...
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Nathan
nathanrixham
Feb 4, 2011 7:15 pm
... I'm quite sure that one can do everything needed with: <link ?@id @rel @href> <meta ?@id @property @content> then if one reduced and combined those two to...
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Erik Mogensen
mogsie_oslo
Feb 4, 2011 8:56 pm
... My god. It can "describe anything"! We should cal it something.. It describes resources... Hmm. We need a catchy name.... Anyone? -- -mogsie-...
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Erik Mogensen
mogsie_oslo
Feb 4, 2011 9:18 pm
... Remember what REST is. It's an architectural style for a distributed hypermedia system[1]. If you're doing something that you can't see as a distributed...
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Bob Ferris
b.ferris...
Feb 4, 2011 9:20 pm
... Doh! Should this be a hint for using triples instead? ;) ... Yes, that's the case and somehow an (mainly) accepted mistake in reality, or? I guess it's...
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Nathan
nathanrixham
Feb 4, 2011 9:29 pm
... descriptalot?...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Feb 4, 2011 10:48 pm
... I'll probably write a more detailed response over the weekend. In short, REST is an idealized model of distributed hypertext system behavior. Think of it...
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Bob Ferris
b.ferris...
Feb 4, 2011 11:36 pm
... Yes, I'm absolutely aware of it. However, can we reach that "ideal" fully, or do we only try approximate it all the time? How can we then state that when...
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Vivek Vaid
viveksvaid
Feb 5, 2011 3:47 am
OData seems to have taken a good stab at defining the structure of URIs among other things.. http://www.odata.org/developers/protocols/uri-conventions...
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Bob Ferris
b.ferris...
Feb 5, 2011 9:27 am
... I guess, even OData is not more RESTful than any other so-called "RESTful" service. I may want even go further that web services in their nature maybe do...
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Jakob Strauch
jakobstrauch
Feb 5, 2011 4:26 pm
It is often stated, that RESTful services decouples client and server, as e.g. stated here [1]: "Coupling between client and server is removed, server owners...
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Nathan
nathanrixham
Feb 5, 2011 5:50 pm
... Yes create new relation types ... OAuth is not stateless and not RESTful, you separate the concerns by layering on auth and security, for example by using...
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mike amundsen
mamund
Feb 5, 2011 6:44 pm
Jakob: (long-ish post...) A few things to consider when thinking about REST, 'loose coupling', and the examples you call out in your message... First, I think...
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Philippe Mougin
pmougin2001
Feb 5, 2011 7:41 pm
[...skipped the parts where I understand/agree with Eric's remarks...] ... The transaction has completed but why wouldn't it make sense to return, with a 200,...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Feb 7, 2011 7:45 am
Hi Jakob, ... By design, in a RESTful system, changes to the server can never break clients[1]. The interesting thing is that REST achieves that by being...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Feb 7, 2011 7:47 am
Doh, ... That should have been 'as well as automated agent based purchases' Jan...
