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Doug Davis
duglin
Dec 8, 2012 10:46 pm
These may be of interest: http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2008/rest-apis-must-be-hypertext-driven in particular bullet points #4 and #6 ...
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Erik Wilde
drethoo
Dec 8, 2012 6:21 pm
... nicholas did not really say what he means by "forms". but typically, forms are a combination of (1) a template (which may be runtime or baked into the...
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CÃat Ó GÃ...
keithgaughan
Dec 8, 2012 6:05 pm
You realise that URI templates and forms are, more-or-less, the same kind of thing, albeit with the former being more flexible in kinds of URI it can generate...
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Erik Wilde
drethoo
Dec 8, 2012 4:50 pm
hello nicholas. ... you are aware of RFC 6570, right? cheers, dret....
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Mike Kelly
mikekelly876...
Dec 8, 2012 3:56 pm
... Be useful if you explained why you think that. (you're probably wrong, by the way) Cheers, M...
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Philippe Mougin
pmougin2001
Dec 8, 2012 10:35 am
I use URI templates as a component of my hypermedia controls. They let me dynamically communicate to clients how to build certain URIs. They are more powerful...
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Nicholas Shanks
nickshanks
Dec 8, 2012 8:53 am
I think URI templating is detrimental to the web and should not receive any standards body endorsement. Can you present a use case which cannot be solved by...
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Erik Wilde
drethoo
Dec 7, 2012 8:45 pm
hello all. i just sumbitted an initial draft of "URI Template Descriptions" as draft-wilde-template-desc-00. however, it seems that there currently is a bit of...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Dec 5, 2012 12:31 pm
... I'd phrase it differently: "POST /cancel violates self-descriptiveness as user intent cannot be discerned by examining the request." This would hold true...
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Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971
Dec 4, 2012 10:45 pm
... Maybe of interest: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/18998 jan...
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Max Toro
maxtoroq
Dec 4, 2012 10:40 pm
Thank you very much for your responses Eric. The short answer is (if I understood correctly): POST /cancel is not REST because it lacks visibility, since it's...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Dec 3, 2012 4:18 pm
... Yes, such examples are out there, but in them, /cancel is NOT a resource in the REST sense so they must be some style of RPC... REST, not so much....
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Dec 3, 2012 4:15 pm
... DELETE /orders/1 doesn't have to delete the resource, it can move it to, say, /canceled/1. In which case you're only changing one property of the order...
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Erik Wilde
drethoo
Dec 3, 2012 2:00 am
hello matt. ... this is a very good question. one important aspect is that it's always bad if clients are tested against just one implementation. server ...
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Matt McClure
matthewlmcclure
Dec 3, 2012 1:40 am
... This seems like a really important point. As I started reading about hypermedia APIs, the authors seemed to be evangelizing the benefit that server...
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Mike Schinkel
mikeschinkel
Dec 2, 2012 7:04 am
... +1 As an aside you'll find maintenance and validation easier if your status values are all lowercase (all upper would be okay too, but uglier.) Has nothing...
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Max Toro
maxtoroq
Dec 2, 2012 2:21 am
Did not choose DELETE because cancel does not delete the resource, it executes some logic which in the end sets it's status field to Canceled. The...
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Erik Wilde
drethoo
Dec 1, 2012 5:58 pm
hello max. ... i guess most people agree that the only reasonable answer to a question such as "is URI X RESTful" is: "tell me more about your design." i'd...
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Max Toro
maxtoroq
Dec 1, 2012 4:17 pm
Thanks for you answer Erik. I don't want to repeat myself, so please see my answer to Eric, I'd love to get your comments as well. Rather than good or bad I'd...
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Max Toro
maxtoroq
Dec 1, 2012 4:11 pm
... To clarify, /orders/1/cancel is used to modify a resource, using POST. A GET request would result in a Method Not Allowed response. This is also explained...
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Erik Mogensen
mogsie_oslo
Dec 1, 2012 1:30 pm
This post is mostly aimed at Max Toro, but Eric provided a nice entry point for me :-) ... Exactly. And we don't know what the author intends to identify just...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Dec 1, 2012 10:45 am
... They're configurable, and while this may have been a problem in the past, I don't believe it to be anything but an edge case, now. URIs are opaque and...
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Greg Young
gumboismadeo...
Dec 1, 2012 9:27 am
/CRMapp?order=1&query=status until intermediaries decide to ignore you because the ? ... They shouldn't but they do :) ... -- Le doute n'est pas une condition...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Dec 1, 2012 8:05 am
... This is why Roy's thesis is an invaluable tool, at least for me anyway as I've been at this since '93 and had a front-row seat at the transition from the...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Dec 1, 2012 7:09 am
... Well, what are you expecting to GET from /cancel, or are you just using that URL to invoke a procedure? If so, then there are a few places Roy's thesis...
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Dec 1, 2012 5:40 am
Technically, of course, I mean "high probability of being a single packet" when arbitrarily small messages (including headers) have their payload compressed....
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Eric J. Bowman
eric@...
Dec 1, 2012 5:24 am
... Right, YMMV with compression, but the main point is that the bulk of the order is static data and therefore may be made highly persistent in the client...
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Max Toro
maxtoroq
Dec 1, 2012 1:15 am
What I'd love to get is an answer like: POST /orders/1/cancel is not REST compliant because chapter x of Fielding's dissertation explicitly or implicitly says...
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Will Hartung
gaminginparis
Nov 30, 2012 10:34 pm
... Unless your in a mobile environment where latency mutders you and compression is a secondary benefit. ... -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information...
