Mark Baker ... discussed ... Please pass on thanks to your wife. ... reference it ... contract ... than ... get ... That's different from the situation I...
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bhaugen32
Sep 1, 2002 4:20 pm
... is ... proof ... A. "Proof" is too strong a word; "evidence"; is as good as you get. B. A contract is an agreement between at least two parties. Evidence of...
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Paul Prescod
papresco
Sep 1, 2002 5:43 pm
... No relationship. That was a project I did for a customer unrelated to REST and before I understood much REST. ... Roughly speaking, systems which make good...
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Vincent D Murphy
johnfoobar1
Sep 1, 2002 7:43 pm
... well, i think groups.yahoo.com is quite RESTful, in a read-only way. as was egroups before it. an example of the 'reality' paul mentioned would be the...
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Yannick Loiseau
pioupiougroups
Sep 1, 2002 10:49 pm
hie all, I know that this subject has already been discussed, but to summarize: How to represent hierarchical resources restfully? Here is the structure: /root...
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S. Mike Dierken
mdierken
Sep 2, 2002 3:52 am
Separate the addressing from the XML representation. The difference between <group1 attribute1a="value";> and <group1><attribute1a>value</attribute1a></group1>...
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bhaugen32
Sep 2, 2002 8:15 pm
Has anybody played with and/or analyzed Moveable Type's TrackBack feature? http://www.movabletype.org/docs/mtmanual_trackback.html It appears to support...
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jmay
Sep 2, 2002 11:35 pm
I don't believe that the REST style makes any recommendation regarding how resources should be represented as URIs. There is no "correct" answer, or even a...
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qchong
Sep 3, 2002 1:08 am
Hello, I would like to know if anyone has considered how multiple web services could be composed and coordinated together under the REST architecture....
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Jeff Bone
jbone@...
Sep 3, 2002 1:08 am
... By definition. But definitions are created by people, and people are fallible. Opaqueness is dogma, but it's not necessarily good engineering. I don't...
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Toivo "Deutsch&q...
tlainevool
Sep 3, 2002 1:37 am
Where do you get the idea that SOAP services are stateless? I don't think there is any mention of state or statelessness in the SOAP spec. I think a SOAP...
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Paul Prescod
papresco
Sep 3, 2002 2:56 am
... The SOAP specification is almost completely descriptive, not prescriptive. In other words, it doesn't provide enough guidance to actually build ...
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Jeff Bone
jbone@...
Sep 3, 2002 2:57 am
... There's the rub --- appropriate order to method invocation implies a stateful model. My suspicion --- though I haven't been able to prove it in a generic...
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inthedarkplace
Sep 3, 2002 4:01 am
Toivo, I'm sorry Toivo, I understand your confusion I think. It stems from the way the words 'state' and 'stateful' have been so hopelessly overloaded. In REST...
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Matt Gushee
mcgushee
Sep 3, 2002 5:58 am
Hi, all-- I'm wondering what people are thinking about the best ways to describe RESTful Web Services to clients and/or people, and how to access those ...
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inthedarkplace
Sep 3, 2002 9:46 am
Matt, I've developed to very simple XML applications I use to describe my RESTful webservices. RWS-RMS (Resource Model Space) describes what resources a...
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Jeffrey Winter
j.winter@...
Sep 3, 2002 2:32 pm
... At first glance, I'd say this is probably okay, but I don't know all the circumstances. See below... Coincidentally enough, over the weekend Sam Ruby put...
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Miles Sabin
milessabin
Sep 3, 2002 4:20 pm
Jeffrey Winter wrote, ... Interesting ... IMO RFC 2616 9.1 is very confusing. It talks about side-effects, but doesn't clearly indicate whether those effects...
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Matt Gushee
mcgushee
Sep 3, 2002 4:38 pm
... Interesting. How do I find out more about this? ... Zero tool support for RELAX-NG? I guess it depends on what you mean by a tool. ... I agree with the...
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Mathews, Walden
waldenmathews
Sep 3, 2002 4:46 pm
... I have half a notion of how this problem (composition of idempotent methods is/isnot idempotent?) can be modeled in Alloy, and if no one comes up with a...
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Mark Baker
gonga_thrash
Sep 3, 2002 5:09 pm
... Well, an important difference between a sequence and an individual invocation that I don't think you're taking into account, is that application state is...
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S. Mike Dierken
mdierken
Sep 3, 2002 5:10 pm
... From: "Jeffrey Winter" <j.winter@...> ... There is now. http://internet.conveyor.com/RESTwiki/moin.cgi/RestFaq#line171 What about those pesky hit...
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Miles Sabin
milessabin
Sep 3, 2002 5:19 pm
Mark Baker wrote, ... I see that. But suppose there's no state update on the client. There's an initial resource /foo on the server, and a fixed resource which...
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Mathews, Walden
waldenmathews
Sep 3, 2002 5:22 pm
I'm not sure, but I think that if the entity of the PUT is allowed to change as you repeat the sequence, then you are not testing idempotence. Doesn't 'repeat...
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Miles Sabin
milessabin
Sep 3, 2002 5:27 pm
Mathews, Walden wrote, ... That would be the usual reading of "idempotent", certainly. Cheers, Miles...
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Mark Baker
gonga_thrash
Sep 3, 2002 5:42 pm
... Sure, you can always construct a GET-followed-by-PUT (of the same URI) example that is idempotent, but that's not the point. The point is, as 2616 says; ...
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Mark Baker
gonga_thrash
Sep 3, 2002 5:50 pm
Actually, let me take that back. 8-) Let's say the example was; "2" <= GET /foo PUT "1" /foo i.e. GET returns "2", PUT sets value to "1". Obviously in the...
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Mathews, Walden
waldenmathews
Sep 3, 2002 5:58 pm
According to mydictionary, idempotence is a property of homogeneous functions (D -> D), such that f(x) = f(f(x)) => 'f' is idempotent. We have to be careful...
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Miles Sabin
milessabin
Sep 3, 2002 5:58 pm
Mark Baker wrote, ... So that sequence is idempotent? Even tho' the client-visible result will differ on a reexecution? OK, that's how I understand idempotent...
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Miles Sabin
milessabin
Sep 3, 2002 6:05 pm
Mark Baker wrote, ... Err ... but if we're only paying attention to the state on the server-side, then this isn't a problem. The effect on the server of ...
