... What it said was pretty good though, even just this sentence; "Visibility in this case refers to the ability of a component to monitor or mediate the...
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Chuck Hinson
cmhinson@...
May 1, 2003 7:49 pm
... Well, its one of those definitions where my reaction is "OK - now what does that mean." I'm sure its an accurate and succinct definition, its just too...
3649
Roy T. Fielding
roy_fielding
May 1, 2003 8:01 pm
... Why it's important? Hmm... There are several places where it comes into play: o efficient intermediaries - security across trust boundaries Many networks...
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Berend de Boer
berenddeboer
May 1, 2003 8:08 pm
... Mike> What are the differences between SMTP and message queueing Mike> (besides cost)? I think the basics are: 1. Transactions (one or more messages within...
3651
Tyler Close
tjclose
May 1, 2003 10:16 pm
... I am wondering how much thought you have put into application security and how it fits in with REST. Do you have a model for how application security...
3652
S. Alexander Jacobson
shop2it
May 1, 2003 11:16 pm
[prior discussion about SOAP and message-queues elided] Its nice that they defined a protocol for these things on top of SOAP, but is there any reason to ...
3653
Berend de Boer
berenddeboer
May 1, 2003 11:47 pm
... S> Its nice that they defined a protocol for these things on top S> of SOAP, but is there any reason to believe that if they had S> put this design effort...
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Chuck Hinson
cmhinson@...
May 2, 2003 4:14 am
... [. . .] So is it fair to say that visibility is about a third party's ability to understand the intent or meaning of a message or an interaction? And ...
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Alex Jacobson
shop2it
May 2, 2003 5:51 pm
Berend, If these are your major objections, I think HTTP/SMTP based transactions look fairly plausible: --On Friday, May 02, 2003 11:45 AM +1200 Berend de Boer...
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Berend de Boer
berenddeboer
May 4, 2003 9:19 pm
... Alex> Presumably, when an entity receives a PREPARE request, it Alex> attempts to PREPARE any sub-transactions for which it is Alex> responsible. If all...
3657
Softtouch IT
softtouchit
May 5, 2003 1:59 am
Sorry, I meant to say "build a RESTful Web Services on top of SOAP". Hao ... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster....
3658
Softtouch IT
softtouchit
May 5, 2003 2:03 am
... Agree. Does the SOAP head do better than name/value pairs? Also, embedding another XML into SOAP body seems awkward as well. Hao ...
3659
Mark Baker
gonga_thrash
May 5, 2003 3:54 pm
I'll take a crack at this if Roy isn't going to, because there's a good question that's really about software architecture in general that I've given a fair...
3660
Berend de Boer
berenddeboer
May 5, 2003 7:29 pm
... Softtouch> Agree. Does the SOAP head do better than name/value Softtouch> pairs? Also, embedding another XML into SOAP body seems Softtouch> awkward as...
3661
Roy T. Fielding
roy_fielding
May 5, 2003 9:43 pm
... Bunches. ... Even if it is done carefully, access control does negate some goals of REST (shared caching in particular). However, it doesn't negate the...
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Roy T. Fielding
roy_fielding
May 5, 2003 9:43 pm
I am swamped trying to finish the URI revision... I'll just add that one thing we want out of an architecture is the ability to adapt to, or be adapted by,...
3663
Mark Baker
gonga_thrash
May 6, 2003 2:19 am
... Yes. SOAP 1.1 was too, though. ... KnowNow had some demo apps that I saw that were. And see...
3664
Berend de Boer
berenddeboer
May 7, 2003 7:40 pm
Hello All, If you start doing URL rewriting you can make URLs that cannot exist in a file system. For example I can say that: /authors returns a list of...
3665
Nic Ferrier
nferrier_tap...
May 7, 2003 8:27 pm
... And you could say that /authors returns the list of authors as well. ... Yes it can. It's the subdirectory itself. What that means is open to ...
3666
Alex Jacobson
shop2it
May 7, 2003 11:09 pm
The context of this discussion was whether SOAP is superior to REST-HTTP because it specifies ACID/MQ services. My point is that if we put in a little work we...
3667
Vincent D Murphy
johnfoobar1
May 8, 2003 10:37 pm
... i think this is more generally about relative URIs, which are interpreted relative to a base URI (that of the request). much like a relative and absolute...
3668
Seairth Jacobs
seairthjacobs
May 9, 2003 1:43 am
Which would be the best way to ensure cachability of a resource where a limited set of individuals require access, but cannot share a common URI. 1) Assign a...
3669
Tyler Close
tjclose
May 9, 2003 6:24 am
... If a resource is subject to access control, representations must be transferred over an encrypted communications channel, such as is provided by HTTPS. If...
3670
Mark Nottingham
mnotting
May 10, 2003 7:56 pm
Digest authentication doesn't require SSL to maintain privacy of the authenticator. Seairth, I'm a bit confused about your requirements. You say that they ...
3671
Seairth Jacobs
seairthjacobs
May 10, 2003 8:25 pm
... From: "Mark Nottingham" <mnot@...> To: "rest-discuss" <rest-discuss@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [rest-discuss]...
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Tyler Close
tjclose
May 10, 2003 8:54 pm
... If you send the resource representation in plaintext, you are effectively delegating access to the resource to everyone else on your network path. This...
3673
Tyler Close
tjclose
May 10, 2003 9:21 pm
... You may also want to take a look at this post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-explore/message/407 In this case, there is no sense in using digest...
3674
Michael Day
mikeday@...
May 11, 2003 12:35 am
... Perhaps rather than saying "access to the resource" it would be better to say "access to a representation of the resource". For example, if the resource is...
3675
Mark Nottingham
mnotting
May 11, 2003 7:03 am
... No, you could be said to be delegating access to the representation, but not the resource; whilst the representation is available to anyone who is able to...
3676
Tyler Close
tjclose
May 11, 2003 11:15 am
... In this case, access to a representation of the resource is equivalent to access to the resource. We know this because Seairth is specifically asking about...
