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I'm new to the group and like most newbies, am full of questions. The one most pressing to me at the moment is that, while I don't much care for SOAP and...
grimlinda
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Jun 5, 2003
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3703
... Either pattern is RESTful as far as I can see. ... way to ... It all depends on your application requirements. There is a general pattern here which I've...
sem_antico
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Jun 9, 2003
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3704
Can anyone give me some advice on the following... I'm attempting to define REST-style interface for a system delivering genomic map data. Central to my design...
gattaca15pcr
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Jun 12, 2003
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Hi Richard My comments are: 1. The presence of location elements (that represent a specific schema design) in the web pages implies knowledge of implementation...
Narayan D. Iyengar
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Jun 13, 2003
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I don't think there's anything wrong with the scheme Richard proposed. If users have a mental model of these maps, then I see nothing wrong with exposing them...
Walden Mathews
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Jun 13, 2003
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Walden, Narayan Thanks for the feedback. The point about syntax is appreciated. In fact I'd tried (probably mistakenly and ham fistedly) to simplify the issue...
gattaca15pcr
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Jun 16, 2003
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... g> I'm attempting to define REST-style interface for a system g> delivering genomic map data. This is off-topic and I only ask because everyone here is...
Gary Lawrence Murphy
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Jun 25, 2003
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3709
First of all, excuse my english, I am dutch. I joined this group because I am interested in REST, there seem to be several good ideas here. I have a...
joujans
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Jul 1, 2003
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3710
... No, that is not against REST principles. Access control and authorization are the normal way of doing user-specific services. ....Roy...
Roy T. Fielding
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Jul 1, 2003
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... I am going to make an argument otherwise. In section 5.2.1.1 of your dissertation, you open with: "The key abstraction of information in REST is a...
Tyler Close
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Jul 1, 2003
2:58 pm
3712
... The URI identifies the resource, not the information that is sent in response to a GET on that resource. As such, I don't understand what you mean by...
Roy T. Fielding
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Jul 1, 2003
3:33 pm
3713
... I used the term "information" because that is the term you used in the quoted section of your dissertation. ... If HTTP Auth is used to make a...
Tyler Close
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... It isn't the *only* information in REST. The identified information is an abstraction. If I have a link to http://bigbank.com/services/myaccount then it...
Roy T. Fielding
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Jul 1, 2003
6:51 pm
3715
... In this thread, we are interested in the granularity of the abstraction identified by the URL. Let's use a different example to make the point, and then...
Tyler Close
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Jul 1, 2003
7:11 pm
3716
... You are very close to the point. You just demonstrated an important use of giving user-specific resources their own URI. I am arguing in favour of this. I...
Tyler Close
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Jul 1, 2003
7:16 pm
3717
... excuse me for butting in, but why not? example: To: support@... From: me@... Subject: problem transaction Hello, a person i made a payment to...
Vincent D Murphy
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Jul 1, 2003
7:49 pm
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... For clarity, make this: I am arguing against URIs like <http://www.acmebank.com/accounts/payment/12/>, where this URI refers to the 12th payment made by...
Tyler Close
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Jul 1, 2003
9:27 pm
3719
... ah. thanks for that clarification. i think your point (that such URIs are RESTless) can be more clearly made by stating that the only way that the...
Vincent D Murphy
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Jul 2, 2003
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3720
This discussion needs to be much clearer about what the resource in question is. AFAICS the example is an 'account' resource. The URI need not be the only...
Richard Padley
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Jul 2, 2003
2:06 pm
3721
... If it's a URI, then there's nothing at all RESTless about it. That URI is perfectly fine, even if what you GET from it differs depending upon who invoked...
Mark Baker
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Jul 2, 2003
2:46 pm
3722
... ..., or HTTP Auth, which is conceptually nothing more than a specially tagged cookie. Thank you for adding this clarification to the argument. Tyler...
Tyler Close
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3723
... It is not the URI on its own that I am arguing against. It is the absence of the user-specific resource URI that I am arguing against. I am arguing against...
Tyler Close
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Jul 2, 2003
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3724
However, there are issues with the durability of identity. In the example of the court case, the URI that identifies "the bank account of some person...
Walden Mathews
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Jul 2, 2003
4:48 pm
3725
Tyler, Mark, Roy, a. Cookie dependent URIs are inherently restless -or- b. (http-)authentication is inherently restless (401s considered RESTless) -or- c....
S. Alexander Jacobson
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Jul 2, 2003
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3726
... Trying to decide how many resources there are behind a URL is kind of an angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin question. But it is demonstrably necessary to make...
Paul Prescod
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Jul 3, 2003
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3727
... dependent on a cookie/auth. There is the 'Vary' response header. This is used to indicate what request headers were used to determine the representation...
Mike Dierken
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Jul 3, 2003
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3728
... Unfortunately, REST only says "important" resources should have a URI. This leaves us with a subjective test. I take it from your response that you believe...
Tyler Close
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Jul 3, 2003
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3729
... Not really. I was arguing against a claim that simply is not true about REST. ... That is not a likely scenario. Applications working within an account...
Roy T. Fielding
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Jul 3, 2003
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3730
Ok, is use of Vary RESTful and if so is it good REST style? "Vary" means that resources are addressable via a URI+mimeheaders and not just a URI. I had been...
Alex Jacobson
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Jul 3, 2003
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3731
--On Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:42 AM -0400 Tyler Close <tyler@...> ... Preempting Paul.... There are occasions when you want to restrict or control...
Alex Jacobson
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