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3985
... In fact, it was rather difficult to grasp this part of Web architecture because we (1) really have in our bones that the *use* of a URI determines what it ...
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Oct 1, 2003
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3986
Hello-- I have some questions regarding REST's definition[1] of resource: REST (re-)defines resource to be an abstraction not only of a) information resources...
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Oct 1, 2003
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3987
... Here is another way to express my question: I don't believe that the notion of a resource's state makes any sense wrt abstract concepts so why would REST...
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Oct 1, 2003
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3988
... Every thing (two words 8-) is a resource. c) is automatically included by this definition, and to remove it would be arbitrary, and would lessen the power...
Mark Baker
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Oct 1, 2003
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3989
Jan, The two questions are closely related. Suppose you know I've been renovating my house for the last 4 years, and you're interested in that project. ...
Walden Mathews
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Oct 1, 2003
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3990
... If the question is whether URIs generically have "meaning" outside of the context in which they are delivered, the answer is no. The most general URI...
S. Alexander Jacobson
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Oct 1, 2003
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3991
An HTTP URI simply designates a location at which data MAY be retrieved via the HTTP protocol. NOTHING ELSE. If I tell you "My address is 555 Maple Drive." The...
S. Alexander Jacobson
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Oct 1, 2003
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3992
... I understand, though that does not really satisfy me....but that is another topic for another day ;-) ... [...] ... Ah, interesting. This focusses on the...
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Oct 1, 2003
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3993
... Arggr - I meant to ask: - Is the idea that an authority controls what the semantics of a resource are a REST principle or 'just' a Web principle? Sorry. ...
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Oct 1, 2003
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3994
alex, that may be what the http spec says, but i don't believe that's up-to-date with the thinking that's currently going on in the web architecture area, in...
Walden Mathews
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Oct 1, 2003
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3995
... I think so. I like the way you phrased that, as if this were a feature rather than a bug. Nice. ... Not AFAICT. ... I don't think there's any one answer...
Mark Baker
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Oct 1, 2003
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3996
It depends on the scheme. HTTP URIs identify locations at which data may be retrieved/deposited. MD5 URIs identify data that may be located at some HTTP URI at...
S. Alexander Jacobson
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3997
Alex, I think it would be incorrect, even for HTTP scheme, to assert that the location is necessarily the resource. REST says resources are anything with...
Walden Mathews
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Oct 1, 2003
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3998
I've written a new paper: "Powerful Web Services Through Composition". The paper's description is: "This document shows how the web-calculus is derived from...
Tyler Close
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Oct 1, 2003
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3999
The URL is: http://www.waterken.com/dev/Web/REST/ Tyler...
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4000
... There is only one HTTP URI scheme, the HTTP Uniform Resource Locator as defined in (rfc2616). I would agree that server operators *should* avoid changing...
S. Alexander Jacobson
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4001
Alex, I don't know where you are going with this, but it doesn't sound like REST to me. I think it's now pretty far afield of Jan's question, and likely to be...
Walden Mathews
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Oct 1, 2003
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4002
... How do you think about abstract concepts like "3"? Do you think of it symbolically (the glyph) or numerically? If you need to explain to someone the...
Roy T. Fielding
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Oct 2, 2003
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4003
Please bear with me....I get the impression that there are a number of implicit ideas about REST that I have been completely missing so far. More questions.......
Jan Algermissen
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Oct 2, 2003
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4004
Jan, ... I have trouble extracting a clear interpretation from "considered with knowledge representation issues". Could you make that more explicit, maybe...
Walden Mathews
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Oct 2, 2003
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4005
... What I mean is if REST goes beyond the technical aspects of distributed systems? Roy wrote: "How do you think about abstract concepts like "3"? Do you...
Jan Algermissen
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Oct 2, 2003
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Jan, I don't think it would ever be correct to say that "REST [or any architectural style, for that matter] is only about the technical aspects...". The...
Walden Mathews
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Oct 2, 2003
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4007
... Hmm, I see some light I think. Do you argue that resource is (re-) defined the way it is on the basis of *observation*? To put this in other words:...
Jan Algermissen
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Oct 2, 2003
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4008
Jan, HTTP says that URLs are simply addresses for resources. REST is an architectural style in which each URL maps to a the current instances of the some...
S. Alexander Jacobson
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Oct 2, 2003
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4009
Thanks for your answers, I am still digesting them. However, I think I need to ask some more practical questions: Suppose the HTML snippet: <p> Professor <a...
Jan Algermissen
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Oct 2, 2003
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4010
... That's an excellent summary, Walden. REST does not seek to be a framework for KR, but it is a framework for communication. The KR systems that I am...
Roy T. Fielding
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Oct 3, 2003
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... REST is an architectural style, not an interpreter. REST-based components will see the anchor reference (which gives meaning), extract the reference,...
Roy T. Fielding
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Oct 3, 2003
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4012
Amazing - I am trying to limit possible answers to my questions as much as possible but so far without success (I am still confused). I'll try one more time,...
Jan Algermissen
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Oct 3, 2003
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4013
"Roy T. Fielding" wrote: [...] ... So it is true that an author's use of a URI provides a context that affects what resource the URI is actually intended to...
Jan Algermissen
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Oct 3, 2003
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4014
... Roy, hat is the meaning of 'author' in what you write? Is it - the person that 'issued' the URI in the first place ("naming authority") - or the person...
Jan Algermissen
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