... The protocol doesn't know anything about RFC2192, does it? ... Don't know what you mean. Can IMAP do content-negotiation so that I can ask for a particular...
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S. Alexander Jacobson
alex@...
Feb 1, 2002 9:14 am
... I don't think NotificationQueuing makes sense. Why not just have an offline client ask for the access log of its relay server? Either way, if the...
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S. Alexander Jacobson
alex@...
Feb 1, 2002 9:23 am
... Ugh. If you are doing this, then you should allow notification messages to specify alternative servers (preemptive redirect). ... If the client misses...
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Paul Prescod
paul@...
Feb 1, 2002 9:34 am
... I may do that but it is also easy to do that at the application layer...anyhow, I call it "watched-URI". You call it preemptive-redirect. It's a URI where...
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S. Alexander Jacobson
alex@...
Feb 1, 2002 9:37 am
... Does it need to? What are you trying to accomplish? ... That is the purpose of multipart/alternative. See RFC2046 sec. 5.1.4: Systems should recognize...
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S. Alexander Jacobson
alex@...
Feb 1, 2002 9:58 am
... If watched-URI is optional, then I don't have a strong objection to it. I just want to make sure that systems work properly with trivial implementations. ...
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Paul Prescod
paul@...
Feb 1, 2002 10:10 am
... If the application has meaningful notification bodies then it might prefer to queue and retry. ... All I ask is that you know ONE of your URIs. i.e. that...
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Paul Prescod
paul@...
Feb 1, 2002 10:21 am
... I'd like (e.g.) to be able to make a resource such that references to that resource result in redirects to another resource on another machine with no...
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S. Alexander Jacobson
alex@...
Feb 1, 2002 10:23 am
... It could always consolidate all the changes into one message body, avoiding queuing. ... The problem is that the URI you generate for yourself may be...
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Paul Prescod
paul@...
Feb 1, 2002 10:29 am
... What do you mean by relay server? In what sense is the queuing intermediary not a relay server? ... Probably. It's just so ugly to have to pass around...
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Paul Prescod
paul@...
Feb 1, 2002 10:38 am
... It's up to the application. I don't know if there is anything we disagree on here. ... There is a CGI script that does polling. You call it like this: ...
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S. Alexander Jacobson
alex@...
Feb 1, 2002 10:45 am
... E.g. someone emails you a web page with an IMAP URL in it. You click on the URL and your browser retrieves the IMAP page? That is the whole purpose of...
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S. Alexander Jacobson
alex@...
Feb 1, 2002 10:49 am
... Sorry, I meant queuing intermediary. The point remains with either terminology. ... Why are you passing them? Suppose that the client has two...
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Jeff Bone
jbone@...
Feb 1, 2002 3:12 pm
... OTOH, I think this is easily justified --- for Web-based subscriptions today, you don't expect to get the content sent to you, you expect to have the...
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Jeff Bone
jbone@...
Feb 1, 2002 3:30 pm
So we've got a problem we need to solve with notifications on containers. As a cautionary note: I think we need to tread lightly, here. We don't want to...
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Jeff Bone
jbone@...
Feb 1, 2002 3:52 pm
We might also need a way for a resource to indicate that it supports recursive subscription. Any thoughts on this?...
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Jeff Bone
jbone@...
Feb 1, 2002 3:56 pm
Quick thought: a notification shouldn't use the GET method on the Subscriber resource --- doing so might be interpreted by an intermediary as a request for...
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S. Alexander Jacobson
alex@...
Feb 1, 2002 4:03 pm
Jeff, Paul, ... Can you explain this one again? It is not clear. The context of this discussio is cache invalidation. The notion is that the cache contains...
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S. Alexander Jacobson
alex@...
Feb 1, 2002 4:06 pm
Notifications may not be GETs because a notification is an update the the notified resource! If notifications are booleans then they are PUT. If notifications...
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Mark Baker
distobj@...
Feb 1, 2002 4:08 pm
Haven't caught up on your rest-discuss reading yet, Jeff? 8-) (I know I haven't). Lucas and I talked about this. I think any method with side-effects is ok. ...
... From: "Paul Prescod" <paul@...> ... like to ... /foo/logins ... It isn't. That is the kind of filtering I would like to be able to do (other than...
... From: "Paul Prescod" <paul@...> ... Yes, I agree completely - the examples were very consice and communicated the intent just fine, but I wouldn't...
... From: "Paul Prescod" <paul@...> ... Woohoo! Yes, by george, you've got it! As a Groves dude, this should be pretty straightforward for you to work...
... From: "Paul Prescod" <paul@...> ... I'm concerned that if this is deployed bodyless by default, there will be a tremendous amount of traffic back...
... From: "Lucas Gonze" <lucas@...> ... Would 'max-age' (as applied to the messages) be relevant? Also, how would you ask for messages from the past (if...
... From: "Paul Prescod" <paul@...> ... I feel the same - but it is also possible that response codes to the notify might be useful (404 not found). ...
