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7134
... Note that this is a feature of the DNS configuration. It's not always the case. -- Nic Ferrier http://www.tapsellferrier.co.uk for all your tapsell...
Nic James Ferrier
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7135
Yeah, POST is the protocol equivalent pointing at something and grunting at someone. Who knows what will happen in that language game [1]. What you do know is...
Bill de hOra
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Dec 1, 2006
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7136
... See my point elsewhere about APP. It introduces these kinds of side-effects, but in a predictable fashion. You can't always work with a collection/iterator...
Bill de hOra
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7137
... Except for the grunting part, yes. The entity in a POST can be a lot more elaborate and formal (and therefore more expressive) than a grunt, though....
Walden Mathews
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Dec 1, 2006
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7138
... It's still grunting. Elaborate here would means two fingers. ... Apply Grice's maxims. Don't grunt when you have a better way of saying things. ... What...
Bill de hOra
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Dec 1, 2006
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7139
... The hypothesis is that all constraints are expressible as a separation of concerns, and therefore that all architectural properties derive from some form...
Mark Baker
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Dec 1, 2006
3:34 pm
7140
... When I read that blog post about RESTafarians, and when you start this response with "now Bill, no need to get defensive", I'm not sure what to think about...
Bill de hOra
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7141
... Referring to the dissertation, I see Roy identifies separation of concerns as the principle behind the client-server constraint. How would you express the...
Walden Mathews
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Dec 1, 2006
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7142
... Fascinating indeed. Here's a potential counterexample: a latency constraint. Suppose a protocol coupling two components imposes a severe latency...
Nick Gall
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Dec 1, 2006
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7143
Hi, as a clarification: I only meant to talk about application layer constraints - sorry if that was unclear. Jan...
Jan Algermissen
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Dec 1, 2006
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7144
... Statelessness separates message semantics from server state. ... You stumped me. Come to think of it, even self-description in general isn't expressible...
Mark Baker
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Dec 1, 2006
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7145
Hi Teo, ... That's an excellent question, and one I've wondered about as well. My answer (as usual) is "it depends" -- on what you mean by "service". If you...
Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
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Dec 1, 2006
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7146
... What do you mean by "application layer constraint", Jan? Mark....
Mark Baker
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Dec 1, 2006
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7147
... Hmm....I had no idea that phrase did not exist already...felt so natural. Sorry. I mean a constraint that applies to the application semantics of a system....
Jan Algermissen
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Dec 1, 2006
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7148
(sorry, forgot the reference) [...] This was partially inspired by your 'axiom blog posting'[1]; [...] Jan [1]...
Jan Algermissen
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Dec 1, 2006
8:37 pm
7149
... Hmm, I'm not sure that term makes sense. Constraints are on data, components, and connectors, which are all "application layer" AFAICT. Can you give an...
Mark Baker
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Dec 1, 2006
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7150
... Sockets. They enable communication to happen, but do not affect (constrain) the application layer. Maybe 'constraint' is the wrong word?...
Jan Algermissen
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7151
Bill, I once had an unaltered tomcat as a pet who hunted quite well and on more than one occasion POSTed a dead rabbit on my back doorstep. He didn't use...
Walden Mathews
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Dec 1, 2006
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7152
... Ok, seems like I was trying to point out a distinction that inherently has been made already by focusing on connector, component and data. So, using your...
Jan Algermissen
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Dec 1, 2006
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7153
... I think so. Sockets aren't a constraint. They're not even a connector (just a part of one). Mark....
Mark Baker
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Dec 1, 2006
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7154
... Let's try the other way round: does SOA (or WS-*) use any constraint on any of those three? I'd say 'no'. Does WS-*'s constraining the data to SOAP count...
Jan Algermissen
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Dec 1, 2006
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7155
... This sounds like what I was trying to say, but let's check: what do you mean by 'ad hoc REST' and in what way do you think Atom constrains it? Jan...
Jan Algermissen
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Dec 1, 2006
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7156
... I don't think they are. I think all of my previous comments about "general" constraints (whether application level or "transport" level) being the key to...
Nick Gall
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Dec 1, 2006
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7157
... It's hard to tell for certain of course, since SOA isn't defined. But if you look at what people are doing in its name, you can pick out at least a couple...
Mark Baker
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Dec 2, 2006
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7158
Nice try. The rabbit's not a communication act, it's an indexical - you infer in passing the tomcat left the rabbit - it's not as though the tomcat told you it...
Bill de hOra
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Dec 2, 2006
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7159
Of course not, the rabbit is the entity. But I can see this is going nowhere. Did you have a point to make about POST being degenerate (whatever you mean by...
Walden Mathews
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Dec 2, 2006
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7160
... case. What would be the DNS configuration option that would disable this, and can it be controlled by the authoritative DNS? Also, is the existence of...
Mike Schinkel
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Dec 2, 2006
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7161
... I was commenting on your tone, not the clarification. I come in peace. Honest. -Mike Schinkel http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/ ...
Mike Schinkel
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Dec 2, 2006
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7162
... Depends on the server of course. It's about how the names are resolved... not the policy of the zone. ... I don't think a server is required to implement...
Nic James Ferrier
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Dec 2, 2006
12:52 pm
7163
... I think it is. HTTP without POST is an interesting gedanken experiment. It's like having English without "just do it". POST is uniformly devoid of meaning;...
Bill de hOra
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