From: "Chuck Hinson" <cmhinson@...> ... I have wondered about this as well. I have a slightly different view, which may be what he was actually trying to...
... Right, dereferencing a URI results in 0 or more representations. My only issue is whether that association *is* a resource, or a reflection of how the...
Jeffrey Winter
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Oct 1, 2002 1:27 pm
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Thanks for the inputs, Chuck. See my comments inline. Walden ... I think the discomfort is natural. But how comfortable are you with Fielding's language...
Hi Jeff, ... We'll see about that. I fully appreciate your first paragraph above and its issue. Once something is objectified in our thinking, it can be hard...
Clearing out the inbox. 8-) ... Sure. You had some other form of routing in mind? 8-) ... This seems suited to a pub/sub cascade. Should be straightforward,...
... this sounds intriguing but for once google doesn't have much of relevance to say about "waka protocol". any URLs on this other than the (terse) powerpoint...
I'm just getting a chance to work thru this now. Thanks for posting it, Walden. Anyway, thought I'd mention that there's a missing close comment at line 89...
I think Roy's given this talk for the past couple of years at least. I'm sure it's evolved, as the protocol has evolved, but it's still just in his head (at...
... Cant somebody convince this guy to write stuff down? --Chuck...
Chuck Hinson
cmhinson@...
Oct 2, 2002 1:13 am
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... I think by "semantics of the mapping" that Roy means the behaviour of the code that generates the representations. That's what has to stay consistent, not...
... I could have a URI which identifies "a random page on the Web". If I describe it as such, then there's no surprise when dereferencing it returns all kinds...
From: "Mark Baker" <distobj@...> ... the ... distinguished ... However, ... from ... Yes, I think we are talking about the same thing. I guess my problem...
From: "Mathews, Walden" <waldenm@...> ... Why? I'm not saying you're wrong. I just don't see why. ... Again, why? *I* am a resource. To my children, I...
... Call the thing that is returned in this case Representation A. ... Call the thing returned in this case Representation B ... But your scenario described...
Chuck Hinson
cmhinson@...
Oct 2, 2002 4:15 am
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... * http://foo/some_kid/biological_father This URI identifies a resource corresponding to the biological father of some_kid, a mapping that cannot change. *...
Michael Day
mikeday@...
Oct 2, 2002 4:25 am
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... Because that's how Fielding defined them. :-) If I have a resource named current_temperature_in_Paris, at any point in time that reource has at least two...
Chuck Hinson
cmhinson@...
Oct 2, 2002 5:00 am
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Matthews, Walden wrote: [...] ... Actually, at this point, I'm more comfortable with the idea that a resource is a function rather than something that uses a...
Chuck Hinson
cmhinson@...
Oct 2, 2002 5:24 am
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... amen. i would so love to curl up and digest a waka RFC or something, because as i mentioned in another post i (and i'm sure others as well) have...
5. http://www.wakasoft.com (I wonder what this will be...) (Although the best WAKA acronym I saw is the World Adult Kickball Association Welcome to WAKA:...
Jeffrey Winter
j.winter@...
Oct 2, 2002 2:11 pm
169
... www.wakasoft.com redirects to Fielding's home page at UCI. According to slides at [1], waka (aka HTTP 2.0?) is based on ideas from W3C HTTP-NG [2] and from...
Chuck Hinson
cmhinson@...
Oct 2, 2002 2:15 pm
170
... Why do you suspect that? ... Me too. Let's discuss that below. ... I'll agree that URIs are simply names; I'm not sure what you mean by "simply a property...
... You've only convinced me that you are not a single resource. In other words, your existence has many meanings. One of them is the catch-all meaning you...
... There's a difference between equivalence and identity. Equivalent (semantically) representations obviously can't share an identity, else there would only...
... If you're looking for a simple model, I know where you can find one. 8-) ... Well, until you can get yourself to that point, you're not going to make any...
... This is due to the fractal nature of information, in other words, due to the fact that when you identify (think separately about) a representation, you...
... I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at here. I will note, however, that we need to be very careful about the way we use the word 'identity'....
Chuck Hinson
cmhinson@...
Oct 2, 2002 3:59 pm
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... Right, they do mean different things, but they mean those different things through different resource mappings. That's what the model is saying when it...
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