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... Mark, You bet -- I believe many detailed examples will help to demystify _how_ REST actually works in practice and this will let people appreciate it even...
Mike Beedle
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Jun 5, 2002
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Interesting reading. No mention of REST, though. REST would address some of the issues. Some of you will be seeing this for the thrid time ;-), but it has been...
Allan Doyle
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Jun 5, 2002
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Since I'm unable to post to the rest-discuss list (or even find out why I can't post), I'll post this here and hope that some of the interested parties read...
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Jun 19, 2002
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... I'm very confused by this. Once a socket is established, it's a bidirectional, full duplex pipe. There is no "direction" in any meaningful sense....
Mark Baker
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Jul 12, 2002
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... I understand, but there's a bigger issue; "direction" is not a transport layer concern, it's an application layer concern. So anything you want to do with...
Mark Baker
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Jul 12, 2002
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... Yeah, me too Mark. Paul, sorry, but this is serious braindamage. (That's okay, we all go through it periodically.) But this makes no sense at all. From...
Jeff Bone
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Jul 12, 2002
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... But that's exactly my point. The directionality of the TCP connection creation should not force the direction of the request/response connections. Today,...
Paul Prescod
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Jul 12, 2002
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On rest-discuss, Mark Baker mentioned application layer routing in conjunction with hyperlinks for change propagation to dependent resources. (Was that...
bhaugen32
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Jul 23, 2002
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What are the issues with sending HTTP requests with a fully qualified URI in the request-uri line? For example, if two business partners are conducting...
S. Mike Dierken
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Jul 25, 2002
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... they both ... that ... messages ... [...] ... advisable ... Ignoring the technical protocol issues, I think it is a really bad idea from the business...
bhaugen32
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Jul 25, 2002
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... keep ... That's also a big reason why hiding all this evidence inside proprietary internal business apps will be a loser in the medium-to- long term....
bhaugen32
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Jul 25, 2002
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... But if it's the *same* resource, why should it matter? Or did you perhaps mean that by virtue of being "held" by both parties, that it really is two...
Mark Baker
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Jul 25, 2002
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... not ... bad ... PUT ... I think you snipped a sentence that would have clarified my point. It is fine to have one order resource (or two, I don't care,...
bhaugen32
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Jul 26, 2002
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... From: "Mark Baker" <distobj@...> ... The only technical issue I can see right now is: - listeners/handlers/services/etc. are limited to one-per IP...
S. Mike Dierken
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Jul 26, 2002
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... Okay, but PUTs can themselves kick off a process whereby the changes are verified. So it doesn't have to be a unilateral change without following the...
Mark Baker
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Jul 29, 2002
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... I'm aware. Maybe it's just another preference item. But if you want to the change order to be a Web resource in its "offered" state (before it's accepted)...
bhaugen32
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Jul 29, 2002
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I note that Mark Baker has also started to use this term. Although I suspect it's not exactly the same way as in ebXML. ...
bhaugen32
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Aug 11, 2002
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... Hmm, I'm not sure. I used the term in relation to GET as a purely degenerate form of state alignment transaction. I understand that WS people tend to...
Mark Baker
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Aug 12, 2002
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REST would be much more popular if it had a usable reference implementation. And it would be even better if the reference implementation itself became popular....
bhaugen32
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Aug 19, 2002
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Sounds good, let us know when you're done. 8-) Actually, KnowNow has a system similar to this, though more basic, as one of their demo apps (at least last time...
Mark Baker
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Aug 21, 2002
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... ? ... I'll check it out when I get time, but really want this to be very low-tech and technically undemanding. "Simplest thing that could possibly work" in...
bhaugen32
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Aug 22, 2002
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Mark Baker wrote in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-arch/2002Aug/0282.html ... I'm not sure where you're going with this, but am concerned if you...
bhaugen32
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Aug 29, 2002
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... Right. Workflow is top-down, it controls application state. Hypertext more "suggests" it by presenting a view of the same kind of flow that a workflow...
Mark Baker
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Aug 29, 2002
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Sort of a joke question, but is DELETE ReSTful? If REST is about 'state transfer' and GET/PUT/POST transfer state, what does DELETE do?...
S. Mike Dierken
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Sep 3, 2002
10:23 pm
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What do people think of this syntax/pseudo-code for describing http operations? // get content = server.resource("someURI"); // put server.resource("someURI")...
S. Mike Dierken
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Sep 3, 2002
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... It's a convenient shortcut for the null PUT. ;-) (Only half kidding...) jb...
Jeff Bone
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Sep 3, 2002
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... From: "Jeff Bone" <jbone@...> ... Yeah, I thought of that, but HTTP supports a resource with no content so 'PUT null' is separate from DELETE. ...
S. Mike Dierken
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Sep 4, 2002
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I agree with GET and PUT, but not POST. How about instead: content = server.resource("someURI") << content; Since POST can get content back, that's why I...
Seairth Jacobs
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Sep 4, 2002
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... From: "Seairth Jacobs" <seairth@...> ... Also, ... "<<"). ... Brilliant!...
S. Mike Dierken
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