I had no doubts!

Thanks,
Glenn


on 5/17/07 10:43 PM, Todd Post at todd.post2@... wrote:

> Glenn,
>
> Before the question is raised, militia will be brigaded together at
> Cooch's Bridge in August, just as they were at Charleston and Green
> Spring.
>
> Cheers,
> Todd
>
> On May 17, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Glenn Valis wrote:
>
>> Late last week Heard's and Outwater's Militias (both NJ militia units)
>> received their organizational notices of where they would be in the
>> command
>> structure at Bordentown.
>> It was in two different companies, both half or more Continentals. It
>> seemed we were being made into 'fill in' levies to make larger
>> Cont'l units.
>> The commander of Heard's, Steve Tichenor, and myself both sent
>> emails to
>> Tom Vogeley our battalion commander asking for the militia units to
>> be put
>> together (Heard's, Outwater's, and the 24th Conn).
>> Today he sent us an email proposing a restructure that will put the
>> militia together.
>> The reason I post this, is one other comment that he made. Tom said
>> that
>> we should have spoken up months ago if the militia wanted to be put
>> together, speaking to Carl Szwarthmary the Brigade commander. He also
>> suggested that any militia going to Mt. Vernon also contact Chip
>> Gnam about
>> being put together.
>>
>> Frankly, I had thought we were past this. Militia are not un-uniformed
>> line troops. We portray the state/local militia units of the
>> Revolution,
>> with all their glory and failures, who certainly contributed to the
>> war
>> effort and deserve to be portrayed. I am proud to portray militia!
>> I don't
>> think I should have to ASK at most events to do so.
>> I intend to write an article for the Continental Line newsletter about
>> this. If I was going to Mt. Vernon I would be contacting Chip. I WILL
>> contact whoever is in charge of any other events to tell them my
>> unit wants
>> to remain militia whenever possible.
>> I am going to post the Militia Declaration to the CL list too. Seems
>> letting the militia be militia is an issue that has to be driven
>> home again
>> and again. That is why this list was started to begin with.
>>
>> -------------
>> Your humble and obd't servant,
>>
>> Glenn Valis
>>
>> Commander, Outwater's Militia
>>
>> http://www.outwatersmilitia.com
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

I agree with you.
PA Rifleman with the PA State Navy
Paul Donohue
--- Glenn Valis <Glenn@...> wrote:

>  Late last week Heard's and Outwater's Militias
> (both NJ militia units)
> received their organizational notices of where they
> would be in the command
> structure at Bordentown.
>   It was in two different companies, both half or
> more Continentals.  It
> seemed we were being made into 'fill in' levies to
> make larger Cont'l units.
>   The commander of Heard's, Steve Tichenor, and
> myself both sent emails to
> Tom Vogeley our battalion commander asking for the
> militia units to be put
> together (Heard's, Outwater's, and the 24th Conn).
>   Today he sent us an email proposing a restructure
> that will put the
> militia together.
>   The reason I post this, is one other comment that
> he made.  Tom said that
> we should have spoken up months ago if the militia
> wanted to be put
> together, speaking to Carl Szwarthmary the Brigade
> commander.  He also
> suggested that any militia going to Mt. Vernon also
> contact Chip Gnam about
> being put together.
>
>   Frankly, I had thought we were past this.  Militia
> are not un-uniformed
> line troops.  We portray the state/local militia
> units of the Revolution,
> with all their glory and failures, who certainly
> contributed to the war
> effort and deserve to be portrayed.  I am proud to
> portray militia!  I don't
> think I should have to ASK at most events to do so.
>   I intend to write an article for the Continental
> Line newsletter about
> this.  If I was going to Mt. Vernon I would be
> contacting Chip.  I WILL
> contact whoever is in charge of any other events to
> tell them my unit wants
> to remain militia whenever possible.
>   I am going to post the Militia Declaration to the
> CL list too.  Seems
> letting the militia be militia is an issue that has
> to be driven home again
> and again.  That is why this list was started to
> begin with.
>
> -------------
> Your humble and obd't servant,
>
> Glenn Valis
>
> Commander, Outwater's Militia
>
> http://www.outwatersmilitia.com
>
>    For the new members of the list, I have added the
> Militia Declaration
> from several years back, which can be seen at:
> http://www.bvma.org/dec_intro.cfm
> ----------------------
> A Declaration of Principles on the Portrayal of
> Continental Line and Militia
> In the American War for Independence
> April 19, 2003
>
> Militia were established by Provincial and State
> Laws, and existed before,
> during and after the American Revolution. Although
> Militia laws varied,
> essentially every free male between the ages of 16
> and 60 were required to
> serve in the militia Š they were the citizen
> soldiers of this conflict. In
> their appearance, arms, accoutrements, and training,
> these militias
> represented the diversity of the 13 separate and
> independent colonies from
> which they were raised.
>
> At the outset of the Revolution, all American troops
> were militia. As the
> war progressed, the importance of the Continental
> Army grew, but the
> militias were never disbanded. They continued to
> play an important role
> throughout the conflict, supporting the cause of
> freedom. And, at the end of
> the war when the Army was disbanded, the Militias
> remained.
>
> We the undersigned are members of recreated Militia
> and Continental Line
> units that served during the Revolution. We are from
> New England, New York,
> and the mid-Atlantic region. Our units belong to the
> Brigade of the American
> Revolution, the Continental Line, the Burning of the
> Valleys Military
> Association, the Living History Association, the
> Connecticut Colony Military
> Association, and the North West Territories
> Alliance.
>
> In our portrayal of Militia and Continental troops,
> we:
>
>     * Strive to meet the highest standards in
> appearance, arms, and
> accoutrements for the recreated units we represent.
> We expect all who would
> serve with us to meet the same high standards.
>     * Strive to develop competency in the manual of
> arms and field
> evolutions necessary to safely deploy in
> Revolutionary War battle scenarios.
>
> As we recognize and acknowledge the contributions
> and integrity of those
> units recreating the Continental Army, we also
> recognize the contributions
> and integrity of the Militia units with which we
> serve. We:
>
>     * Expect militia to be brigaded with militia, at
> a unit structure
> commensurate with their numbers, be it platoon,
> company, or battalion;
>     * Expect that the militia will serve under
> competent militia officers
> drawn from their number; and
>     * Expect militia to be used as militia, and not
> assigned as file fillers
> to complete the ranks of Continental units. When
> militia serves in support
> functions, it should do so as a unit of militia.
>
> We believe it important that the distinct roles of
> the Continental Line and
> Militia in the American War for Independence not be
> lost, by mis-using these
> troops in re-enactments.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>




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Usually, and I think in this case, it was done with out malice, just with out
thinking it through...but to be considered 'undifferentiated" from Line units
renders us invisable.  If we amalgamate with Line units we ARE actually
invisable!

Glenn Valis


>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: Paul Donohue Sr. <gpopdonohue@...>
>  Subject: Re: [revwarmilitia] Militia being Militia problems- repeat 2003
>  Sent: 18 May '07 17:49
>
>  I agree with you.
>  PA Rifleman with the PA State Navy
>  Paul Donohue
>  --- Glenn Valis <Glenn@...> wrote:
>
>  >  Late last week Heard's and Outwater's Militias
>  > (both NJ militia units)
>  > received their organizational notices of where they
>  > would be in the command
>  > structure at Bordentown.
>  >   It was in two different companies, both half or
>  > more Continentals.  It
>  > seemed we were being made into 'fill in' levies to
>  > make larger Cont'l units.
>  >   The commander of Heard's, Steve Tichenor, and
>  > myself both sent emails to
>  > Tom Vogeley our battalion commander asking for the
>  > militia units to be put
>  > together (Heard's, Outwater's, and the 24th Conn).
>  >   Today he sent us an email proposing a restructure
>  > that will put the
>  > militia together.
>  >   The reason I post this, is one other comment that
>  > he made.  Tom said that
>  > we should have spoken up months ago if the militia
>  > wanted to be put
>  > together, speaking to Carl Szwarthmary the Brigade
>  > commander.  He also
>  > suggested that any militia going to Mt. Vernon also
>  > contact Chip Gnam about
>  > being put together.
>  >
>  >   Frankly, I had thought we were past this.  Militia
>  > are not un-uniformed
>  > line troops.  We portray the state/local militia
>  > units of the Revolution,
>  > with all their glory and failures, who certainly
>  > contributed to the war
>  > effort and deserve to be portrayed.  I am proud to
>  > portray militia!  I don't
>  > think I should have to ASK at most events to do so.
>  >   I intend to write an article for the Continental
>  > Line newsletter about
>  > this.  If I was going to Mt. Vernon I would be
>  > contacting Chip.  I WILL
>  > contact whoever is in charge of any other events to
>  > tell them my unit wants
>  > to remain militia whenever possible.
>  >   I am going to post the Militia Declaration to the
>  > CL list too.  Seems
>  > letting the militia be militia is an issue that has
>  > to be driven home again
>  > and again.  That is why this list was started to
>  > begin with.
>  >
>  > -------------
>  > Your humble and obd't servant,
>  >
>  > Glenn Valis
>  >
>  > Commander, Outwater's Militia
>  >
>  > http://www.outwatersmilitia.com
>  >
>  >    For the new members of the list, I have added the
>  > Militia Declaration
>  > from several years back, which can be seen at:
>  > http://www.bvma.org/dec_intro.cfm
>  > ----------------------
>  > A Declaration of Principles on the Portrayal of
>  > Continental Line and Militia
>  > In the American War for Independence
>  > April 19, 2003
>  >
>  > Militia were established by Provincial and State
>  > Laws, and existed before,
>  > during and after the American Revolution. Although
>  > Militia laws varied,
>  > essentially every free male between the ages of 16
>  > and 60 were required to
>  > serve in the militia Š they were the citizen
>  > soldiers of this conflict. In
>  > their appearance, arms, accoutrements, and training,
>  > these militias
>  > represented the diversity of the 13 separate and
>  > independent colonies from
>  > which they were raised.
>  >
>  > At the outset of the Revolution, all American troops
>  > were militia. As the
>  > war progressed, the importance of the Continental
>  > Army grew, but the
>  > militias were never disbanded. They continued to
>  > play an important role
>  > throughout the conflict, supporting the cause of
>  > freedom. And, at the end of
>  > the war when the Army was disbanded, the Militias
>  > remained.
>  >
>  > We the undersigned are members of recreated Militia
>  > and Continental Line
>  > units that served during the Revolution. We are from
>  > New England, New York,
>  > and the mid-Atlantic region. Our units belong to the
>  > Brigade of the American
>  > Revolution, the Continental Line, the Burning of the
>  > Valleys Military
>  > Association, the Living History Association, the
>  > Connecticut Colony Military
>  > Association, and the North West Territories
>  > Alliance.
>  >
>  > In our portrayal of Militia and Continental troops,
>  > we:
>  >
>  >     * Strive to meet the highest standards in
>  > appearance, arms, and
>  > accoutrements for the recreated units we represent.
>  > We expect all who would
>  > serve with us to meet the same high standards.
>  >     * Strive to develop competency in the manual of
>  > arms and field
>  > evolutions necessary to safely deploy in
>  > Revolutionary War battle scenarios.
>  >
>  > As we recognize and acknowledge the contributions
>  > and integrity of those
>  > units recreating the Continental Army, we also
>  > recognize the contributions
>  > and integrity of the Militia units with which we
>  > serve. We:
>  >
>  >     * Expect militia to be brigaded with militia, at
>  > a unit structure
>  > commensurate with their numbers, be it platoon,
>  > company, or battalion;
>  >     * Expect that the militia will serve under
>  > competent militia officers
>  > drawn from their number; and
>  >     * Expect militia to be used as militia, and not
>  > assigned as file fillers
>  > to complete the ranks of Continental units. When
>  > militia serves in support
>  > functions, it should do so as a unit of militia.
>  >
>  > We believe it important that the distinct roles of
>  > the Continental Line and
>  > Militia in the American War for Independence not be
>  > lost, by mis-using these
>  > troops in re-enactments.
>  >  
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been
>  > removed]
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>        
> 
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It is also a problem in F and I with the milice. Line commands see us as
numbers to fill out their ranks so the look bigger and  better.



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Hi everyone.



As a starting point, like Glenn, I love being "militia".  I think it's a
portrayal that is often under utilized and subject to many misconceptions.  Do I
like being a filler for a Continental company?  Heck no.  Do I love it when the
militia is brigaded together?  Absolutely.  Saratoga's 225th was a perfect
example of such a scenario.  Should we be brigaded at future events?  Ideally
yes.  But to do so, I think, takes not only consideration from event sponsors,
but effort from our end as well.



This is not meant as a criticism or slight to anyone...as far as I'm concerned,
the militia units I've fielded with are some of the best units in the hobby. 
But at recent Continental Line events I've attended, the militia battalion
consisted of less than desirable numbers.  For example, the militia "battalion"
at Southbury CT had less than 15 guys and we were reduced to a platoon.  At
Chelmsford, we had eight, maybe ten militia men.  (Note...my group is a CL unit,
so I can't speak for BVMA or BAR events.)



Absolutely, event sponsors should take into consideration brigading militia with
militia.  We shouldn't have to ask or beg to be brigaded together.  But if we're
not providing the numbers, then it puts us in a difficult position to expect the
militia will actually be bunched together. We all worked hard back in 2003 to
earn the recognition and respect we rightfully deserve.  But if we want to be
together at events, we can't rest on our laurels.  Instead, we have to ensure
the militia is properly represented.



This brings me to my next question/point.  I'm sure we all want the militia to
be properly represented and *portrayed*.  What can we do to improve militia
portrayals at events?  Scenarios involving election of militia officers? 
Patrols?  Foraging actions?  Fatigue duties?  Drills?  Recruiting of state
troops for short campaigns?



And how about a school for militia?  Has one ever been proposed before?  I know
I could learn a lot from members of Outwater's, Heard's, 2nd Albany, 1st Ulster,
Danvers Alarm, Rehoboth, 24th Conn. and many other fine militia units that exist
in the hobby.



Just my random and humble thoughts.



YS



Alex Cain

Lexington Training Band (1775)


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I see the same problem with the Powers That Be viewing everyone as
potential Milice. I stopped going to Fort #4 F&I Weekend because I
wanted to FIGHT the French, not BE the French.

Dave H
3NH


---------------------------------



--- In revwarmilitia@yahoogroups.com, Keith1759@... wrote:
>
> It is also a problem in F and I with the milice. Line commands see us
as
> numbers to fill out their ranks so the look bigger and  better.
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
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>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

AS far as I know, the BAR Main department (the northeast) has only two
militia units, Heard's and Outwater's.  At BAR events we are always brigaded
together, and together have a company of 20-30.  The BAR command structure
however, very seldom allows us to have our own overall commander, having a
BAR officer placed in an oversight position over us.
   Outwater's is a smaller unit with only 12 or so men at arms, while Heard's
has over 30.  In fact at Monmouth 225th, Heard's had 31 men in a battalion
of 80- under the overall command of a French reg't commander who sometimes
does militia.
   Apparently down south they have many militia units, but outside of the
BVMA, there are not all that many active units.  In the mid Atlantic area I
know of only Outwater's, Heard's, the 24th Conn. And the Cecil County (MD)
militia units.  I am unsure of what units are active in New England- we
don't cross paths.
   As far as doing more at events, often that is up to the people who do the
schedule.  Some schedules have lots of time for extra activities.  Some
waste our time IMHO, with useless drills.  Sure sometimes you need to find
out if the conglomeration of units can go from column into line and back,
but once you know they can do what is expected of them, end the drill.
   Speciality drills are what we do if we want to draw attention to
ourselves.  Not the public, who cares less about what drill you do, as long
as you do SOMETHING, but the Line units.  Outwater's and Heard's will drill
together on patrolling, Light Infantry tactics, street firing, forming a
square, etc.  We hope it gives a nudge to the Line units that we are not
just regular infantry, but train to work the flanks, or independently as
advance guards, patrolling forces, etc.  Not that we are given those
assignments that often, except to take a flank.
   I think the idea of a School of Instruction for militia is wonderful.
Outwater's and Heard's does a drill/training day every March to get people
ready for the coming season.  I can see great potential in a SOI for
militia, covering things from improving skill in the manual of arms and
tactical maneuvers to 'advanced' tactical skills/knowledge and even camp
skills, etc.
   The only problem with such an idea is that the militia units are scattered
from Boston to the Mohawk Valley, from Delaware to Maine.  Hard to have "one
school" and get everyone to go.  Maybe sub regional schools?



--

Your Servant,
   Glenn Valis
Commander, Outwater's Militia
http://www.outwatersmilitia.com/

Glenn@...






on 5/18/07 8:08 PM, Alexander Cain at mass1775@... wrote:

> Hi everyone.
>
>
>
> As a starting point, like Glenn, I love being "militia".  I think it's a
> portrayal that is often under utilized and subject to many misconceptions.  Do
> I like being a filler for a Continental company?  Heck no.  Do I love it when
> the militia is brigaded together?  Absolutely.  Saratoga's 225th was a perfect
> example of such a scenario.  Should we be brigaded at future events?  Ideally
> yes.  But to do so, I think, takes not only consideration from event sponsors,
> but effort from our end as well.
>
>
>
> This is not meant as a criticism or slight to anyone...as far as I'm
> concerned, the militia units I've fielded with are some of the best units in
> the hobby.  But at recent Continental Line events I've attended, the militia
> battalion consisted of less than desirable numbers.  For example, the militia
> "battalion" at Southbury CT had less than 15 guys and we were reduced to a
> platoon.  At Chelmsford, we had eight, maybe ten militia men.  (Note...my
> group is a CL unit, so I can't speak for BVMA or BAR events.)
>
>
>
> Absolutely, event sponsors should take into consideration brigading militia
> with militia.  We shouldn't have to ask or beg to be brigaded together.  But
> if we're not providing the numbers, then it puts us in a difficult position to
> expect the militia will actually be bunched together. We all worked hard back
> in 2003 to earn the recognition and respect we rightfully deserve.  But if we
> want to be together at events, we can't rest on our laurels.  Instead, we have
> to ensure the militia is properly represented.
>
>
>
> This brings me to my next question/point.  I'm sure we all want the militia to
> be properly represented and *portrayed*.  What can we do to improve militia
> portrayals at events?  Scenarios involving election of militia officers?
> Patrols?  Foraging actions?  Fatigue duties?  Drills?  Recruiting of state
> troops for short campaigns?
>
>
>
> And how about a school for militia?  Has one ever been proposed before?  I
> know I could learn a lot from members of Outwater's, Heard's, 2nd Albany, 1st
> Ulster, Danvers Alarm, Rehoboth, 24th Conn. and many other fine militia units
> that exist in the hobby.
>
>
>
> Just my random and humble thoughts.
>
>
>
> YS
>
>
>
> Alex Cain
>
> Lexington Training Band (1775)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--- In revwarmilitia@yahoogroups.com, "Alexander Cain" <mass1775@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.
>
>
>
> As a starting point, like Glenn, I love being "militia".  I think
it's a portrayal that is often under utilized and subject to many
misconceptions.  Do I like being a filler for a Continental company?
Heck no.  Do I love it when the militia is brigaded together?
Absolutely.  Saratoga's 225th was a perfect example of such a
scenario.  Should we be brigaded at future events?  Ideally yes.  But
to do so, I think, takes not only consideration from event sponsors,
but effort from our end as well.
>
>
>
> This is not meant as a criticism or slight to anyone...as far as
I'm concerned, the militia units I've fielded with are some of the
best units in the hobby.  But at recent Continental Line events I've
attended, the militia battalion consisted of less than desirable
numbers.  For example, the militia "battalion" at Southbury CT had
less than 15 guys and we were reduced to a platoon.  At Chelmsford,
we had eight, maybe ten militia men.  (Note...my group is a CL unit,
so I can't speak for BVMA or BAR events.)
>
>
>
> Absolutely, event sponsors should take into consideration brigading
militia with militia.  We shouldn't have to ask or beg to be brigaded
together.  But if we're not providing the numbers, then it puts us in
a difficult position to expect the militia will actually be bunched
together. We all worked hard back in 2003 to earn the recognition and
respect we rightfully deserve.  But if we want to be together at
events, we can't rest on our laurels.  Instead, we have to ensure the
militia is properly represented.
>
>
>
> This brings me to my next question/point.  I'm sure we all want the
militia to be properly represented and *portrayed*.  What can we do
to improve militia portrayals at events?  Scenarios involving
election of militia officers?  Patrols?  Foraging actions?  Fatigue
duties?  Drills?  Recruiting of state troops for short campaigns?
>
>
>
> And how about a school for militia?  Has one ever been proposed
before?  I know I could learn a lot from members of Outwater's,
Heard's, 2nd Albany, 1st Ulster, Danvers Alarm, Rehoboth, 24th Conn.
and many other fine militia units that exist in the hobby.
>
>
>
> Just my random and humble thoughts.
>
>
>
> YS
>
>
>
> Alex Cain
>
> Lexington Training Band (1775)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Move down South! We have more militia units than the woods to hold
them. Besides, there are other reasons for coming down here - we now
accesp Yankee money, so bring plenty. Jim Strong

Alex raises a good point here.  The last two big events I've run (Charleston and
Green Spring), I was able to brigade the militia together because there were
enough militia in attendance to warrant doing so and an able commander to
delegate command to.  Trust me, having started in a militia unit, my preference
is always to put militia with militia under their own officer.  At Charleston,
the militia made up its own division under Chuck LeCount of the Hillsborough
District Militia and at Green Spring there were enough for a company under Alan
Krause of the Augusta County Militia.

That said, if there were let's say only a platoon of militia or less, I might be
tempted to pair them with another platoon (though still under a militia
subaltern).  I'm not a fan of small formations wheeling and firing as if they
were full sized regiments and I feel that a "company" (two platoons, no less
than 30 or so men total) should be the smallest operational formation on the
field.  As long as there is a good number of militia though and they have an
able and willing officer among their ranks, as an event coordinator, my
intention will always be to brigade them together and to use such an officer.

I suppose another solution if there is less than a company's worth of militia at
an event and the scenario can support it, militia can be used as skirmishers. 
At Charleston, I used the militia (though a sizable division in this example) to
harass the British on their march through the woods to the tactical on Saturday
and I heard good things from those who participated in the running fight.

That said, I'm looking for a willing and able militia officer for Cooch's Bridge
in August.  There was an entire brigade of militia under Armstrong during the
Philadelphia Campaign.

Cheers,
Todd

> This is not meant as a criticism or slight to anyone...as far as
> I'm concerned, the militia units I've fielded with are some of
> the best units in the hobby.  But at recent Continental Line
> events I've attended, the militia battalion consisted of less
> than desirable numbers.  For example, the militia "battalion" at
> Southbury CT had less than 15 guys and we were reduced to a
> platoon.  At Chelmsford, we had eight, maybe ten militia men.

That is a good idea as well Todd.  Our main goal is to not "disappear" among
the uniforms of a Continental formation.
   I or Steve Tichenor of Heard's would be glad to be of any service at Cooches
Bridge!

YHS,
Glenn Valis
Outwater's Militia


>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: Todd Post <todd.post2@...>
>  Subject: Re: [revwarmilitia] Re: Militia being Militia problems- repeat 2003
>  Sent: 21 May '07 14:21
>
>  Alex raises a good point here.  The last two big events I've run (Charleston
and Green Spring), I was able to brigade the militia together because there were
enough militia in attendance to warrant doing so and an able commander to
delegate command to.  Trust me, having started in a militia unit, my preference
is always to put militia with militia under their own officer.  At Charleston,
the militia made up its own division under Chuck LeCount of the Hillsborough
District Militia and at Green Spring there were enough for a company under Alan
Krause of the Augusta County Militia.
>
>  That said, if there were let's say only a platoon of militia or less, I might
be tempted to pair them with another platoon (though still under a militia
subaltern).  I'm not a fan of small formations wheeling and firing as if they
were full sized regiments and I feel that a "company" (two platoons, no less
than 30 or so men total) should be the smallest operational formation on the
field.  As long as there is a good number of militia though and they have an
able and willing officer among their ranks, as an event coordinator, my
intention will always be to brigade them together and to use such an officer.
>
>  I suppose another solution if there is less than a company's worth of militia
at an event and the scenario can support it, militia can be used as
skirmishers.  At Charleston, I used the militia (though a sizable division in
this example) to harass the British on their march through the woods to the
tactical on Saturday and I heard good things from those who participated in the
running fight.
>
>  That said, I'm looking for a willing and able militia officer for Cooch's
Bridge in August.  There was an entire brigade of militia under Armstrong during
the Philadelphia Campaign.
>
>  Cheers,
>  Todd
>
>  > This is not meant as a criticism or slight to anyone...as far as
>  > I'm concerned, the militia units I've fielded with are some of
>  > the best units in the hobby.  But at recent Continental Line
>  > events I've attended, the militia battalion consisted of less
>  > than desirable numbers.  For example, the militia "battalion" at
>  > Southbury CT had less than 15 guys and we were reduced to a
>  > platoon.  At Chelmsford, we had eight, maybe ten militia men.
>
>
>
>  Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Glenn,

Right now, we have Outwater's and the Berks County Associators (who
identified themselves as militia) registered.  Heard's has not yet.
There are two other groups, the HM Otter and Pawling's, which aren't
militia but use civilian impressions.  The HM Otter guys also do the
Isle of Wight Militia and Pawlings as you know are New York levies.

Cheers,
Todd

On May 21, 2007, at 12:22 PM, glenn wrote:

> That is a good idea as well Todd. Our main goal is to not
> "disappear" among the uniforms of a Continental formation.
> I or Steve Tichenor of Heard's would be glad to be of any service
> at Cooches Bridge!

I know the HM Otter people by reputation, and of course know Pauling's well,
but Berk's County Associators I haven't heard of.  I assume they are from
Berk's County Pa?  They might be a new unit.
   Anyway, what ever you need me to do, just ask.

Glenn


on 5/21/07 9:02 PM, Todd Post at todd.post2@... wrote:

> Glenn,
>
> Right now, we have Outwater's and the Berks County Associators (who
> identified themselves as militia) registered.  Heard's has not yet.
> There are two other groups, the HM Otter and Pawling's, which aren't
> militia but use civilian impressions.  The HM Otter guys also do the
> Isle of Wight Militia and Pawlings as you know are New York levies.
>
> Cheers,
> Todd
>
> On May 21, 2007, at 12:22 PM, glenn wrote:
>
>> That is a good idea as well Todd. Our main goal is to not
>> "disappear" among the uniforms of a Continental formation.
>> I or Steve Tichenor of Heard's would be glad to be of any service
>> at Cooches Bridge!
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Alex & all,

We would love to run with your suggestions, as the 2nd Albany & 1st Ulster
love doing the hobby and the Militia persona for more than just 'shoot 'em
ups' .  At our events we do Committee of Safety meetings, field surgery, rum
calls, payroll, trials, indentured servant sales, auctions of tory property
, period troop inspections with fines,digging kitchens,
siegework/entrenchment demo's etc.  We don't forget we are citizen-soldiers
(not merely warriors).

We definitely will have these at our event when we return to the NY Power
Authority property at Bleinheim- Gilboa  for a 230th of the Raid on
Cobuskill  in 2008 (May 31- June 1) .   As anyone who has attended our past
events at this great site, know-- we have acres and acres of varied terrain
to plan our various scenarios upon.

The BVMA is supporting the event, but other umbrella insured militia units
are invited to attend as well (we did do an announcement at the annual CL
meeting).   We have many opposing forces who love to engage at this site ,
so the tacticals are usually stimulating as well.

If there are any specifc militia scenarios , you would like to see/ be a
part of  at the event, let us know, or discuss here.

(Of course, two weeks after this year's Saratoga is the Burning of Kingston
October 20-21 - and the most accurate colonial  portrayal there is militia,
and command is by militia- you're welcome there too, let me know)

Cheers,

Dean Barnes
1st Ulster Co Militia
2nd Albany Co Militia
BVMA Chairman

“Flattery and admiration are the two principal engines by which our sex make
their first approaches to yours; and if you listen to us, we are sure,
either by the sap or the mine, to succeed, and
blow you up when ever we please, if we do but take care to suit ourselves to
your particular foibles; or, to carry on the metaphor,point our batteries to
your weak side--for the strongest fortresses,
my dear, are weaker in one place than another. –“Samuel Richardson, Pamela
1740





>         Re: Militia being Militia problems- repeat 2003
>     Posted by:      "Alexander Cain"
>       mass1775@...
>>       Fri May 18, 2007 5:16 pm        (PST)
>
(Snips)
>As a starting point, like Glenn, I love being "militia".  I think it's a
>portrayal that is often under utilized and subject to many misconceptions.
>Do I like being a filler for a Continental company?  Heck no.  Do I love it
>when the militia is brigaded together?  Absolutely.  Saratoga's 225th was a
>perfect example of such a scenario.  Should we be brigaded at future
>events?  Ideally yes.  But to do so, I think, takes not only consideration
>from event sponsors, but effort from our end as well.
>
>This brings me to my next question/point.  I'm sure we all want the militia
>to be properly represented and *portrayed*.  What can we do to improve
>militia portrayals at events?  Scenarios involving election of militia
>officers?  Patrols?  Foraging actions?  Fatigue duties?  Drills?
>Recruiting of state troops for short campaigns?
>
>And how about a school for militia?  Has one ever been proposed before?  I
>know I could learn a lot from members of Outwater's, Heard's, 2nd Albany,
>1st Ulster, Danvers Alarm, Rehoboth, 24th Conn. and many other fine militia
>units that exist in the hobby.

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I'll echo Dean's comments.....

There will be lots of Militia/civilian opportunities at the "Cobuskill"
event next spring    May 31/June 1, 2008....   I'll get invitations out
later this fall (probably before the CL northern department meeting).  I
do not expect I'll be seeking CL sanction for this, however.

We expect significant support from the Northern Brigade, so it will likely
be a target rich environment.

As Dean said, we already program civilian/non-combative (unless you are
the one being tried or arrested) material into our events ...   I've
already discussed similar "non-combative" activities for the Brit camp
with Christian Cameron.

It was a bit of a surprise (and disappointment)  to see the "declaration"
come back in this current thread after 4 years.   The "declaration" came
off my computer, and had extensive input from the "Saratoga 225" militia
officer corps. It wasn't coincidence that it was dated April 19.    The
words were carefully crafted for a target audience, not to incite, but
rather to make a specific point, that being that our militia
interpretation is as important to us as your continental impression is to
you!

We really don't have much of a recognition problem for militia on the
frontier of New York.....  :)

John


> Alex & all,
>
> We would love to run with your suggestions, as the 2nd Albany & 1st Ulster
> love doing the hobby and the Militia persona for more than just 'shoot 'em
> ups' .  At our events we do Committee of Safety meetings, field surgery,
> rum
> calls, payroll, trials, indentured servant sales, auctions of tory
> property
> , period troop inspections with fines,digging kitchens,
> siegework/entrenchment demo's etc.  We don't forget we are
> citizen-soldiers
> (not merely warriors).
>
> We definitely will have these at our event when we return to the NY Power
> Authority property at Bleinheim- Gilboa  for a 230th of the Raid on
> Cobuskill  in 2008 (May 31- June 1) .   As anyone who has attended our
> past
> events at this great site, know-- we have acres and acres of varied
> terrain
> to plan our various scenarios upon.
>
> The BVMA is supporting the event, but other umbrella insured militia units
> are invited to attend as well (we did do an announcement at the annual CL
> meeting).   We have many opposing forces who love to engage at this site ,
> so the tacticals are usually stimulating as well.
>
> If there are any specifc militia scenarios , you would like to see/ be a
> part of  at the event, let us know, or discuss here.
>
> (Of course, two weeks after this year's Saratoga is the Burning of
> Kingston
> October 20-21 - and the most accurate colonial  portrayal there is
> militia,
> and command is by militia- you're welcome there too, let me know)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dean Barnes
> 1st Ulster Co Militia
> 2nd Albany Co Militia
> BVMA Chairman
>
> “Flattery and admiration are the two principal engines by which our sex
> make
> their first approaches to yours; and if you listen to us, we are sure,
> either by the sap or the mine, to succeed, and
> blow you up when ever we please, if we do but take care to suit ourselves
> to
> your particular foibles; or, to carry on the metaphor,point our batteries
> to
> your weak side--for the strongest fortresses,
> my dear, are weaker in one place than another. –“Samuel Richardson, Pamela
> 1740
>
>
>
>
>
>>         Re: Militia being Militia problems- repeat 2003
>>     Posted by:      "Alexander Cain"
>>       mass1775@...
>>>       Fri May 18, 2007 5:16 pm        (PST)
>>
> (Snips)
>>As a starting point, like Glenn, I love being "militia".  I think it's a
>>portrayal that is often under utilized and subject to many
>> misconceptions.
>>Do I like being a filler for a Continental company?  Heck no.  Do I love
>> it
>>when the militia is brigaded together?  Absolutely.  Saratoga's 225th was
>> a
>>perfect example of such a scenario.  Should we be brigaded at future
>>events?  Ideally yes.  But to do so, I think, takes not only
>> consideration
>>from event sponsors, but effort from our end as well.
>>
>>This brings me to my next question/point.  I'm sure we all want the
>> militia
>>to be properly represented and *portrayed*.  What can we do to improve
>>militia portrayals at events?  Scenarios involving election of militia
>>officers?  Patrols?  Foraging actions?  Fatigue duties?  Drills?
>>Recruiting of state troops for short campaigns?
>>
>>And how about a school for militia?  Has one ever been proposed before?
>> I
>>know I could learn a lot from members of Outwater's, Heard's, 2nd Albany,
>>1st Ulster, Danvers Alarm, Rehoboth, 24th Conn. and many other fine
>> militia
>>units that exist in the hobby.
>
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--
J. L. Osinski

Schuyler's Co., New York Provincials (1759)
2nd Regt., Albany Cty Militia (1775)
Member, NY State 250th Commemoration Commission, French and Indian War

I was surprised to have to drag the 'declaration' out of semi-retirement!
Of course, I think it was an honest mistake, of placing "NJ militia, Heard's
Brigade" in with the NJ reg'ts of Line units because they were all NJ units.
   Unfortunately for militia, we have no identifying characteristics- no
special uniform, caps, etc.  Some have uniforms of one type or another, some
have coats or jackets, some have hunting shirts...so if we are put into Line
units, we disappear, even to other reenactors.  You can usually pick out the
Light Infantry or horseless dragoons, usually see riflemen, but militia
blend in to any Line unit and then they are gone.
   When I write an article for the CL newsletter, that is the point I want to
make.  We like being militia, and don't want to disappear among the line
units.
   We also do several 'civilian show' things at events- we do a "trial for
Tyranny" of King George, do civilian crafts, bondage auction, etc.

--

Your humble servant,

Glenn Valis

Outwater's Militia

glenn@...





on 5/22/07 2:22 PM, J. L. Osinski at josinski@... wrote:

> I'll echo Dean's comments.....
>
> There will be lots of Militia/civilian opportunities at the "Cobuskill"
> event next spring    May 31/June 1, 2008....   I'll get invitations out
> later this fall (probably before the CL northern department meeting).  I
> do not expect I'll be seeking CL sanction for this, however.
>
> We expect significant support from the Northern Brigade, so it will likely
> be a target rich environment.
>
> As Dean said, we already program civilian/non-combative (unless you are
> the one being tried or arrested) material into our events ...   I've
> already discussed similar "non-combative" activities for the Brit camp
> with Christian Cameron.
>
> It was a bit of a surprise (and disappointment)  to see the "declaration"
> come back in this current thread after 4 years.   The "declaration" came
> off my computer, and had extensive input from the "Saratoga 225" militia
> officer corps. It wasn't coincidence that it was dated April 19.    The
> words were carefully crafted for a target audience, not to incite, but
> rather to make a specific point, that being that our militia
> interpretation is as important to us as your continental impression is to
> you!
>
> We really don't have much of a recognition problem for militia on the
> frontier of New York.....  :)
>
> John
>
>
>> Alex & all,
>>
>> We would love to run with your suggestions, as the 2nd Albany & 1st Ulster
>> love doing the hobby and the Militia persona for more than just 'shoot 'em
>> ups' .  At our events we do Committee of Safety meetings, field surgery,
>> rum
>> calls, payroll, trials, indentured servant sales, auctions of tory
>> property
>> , period troop inspections with fines,digging kitchens,
>> siegework/entrenchment demo's etc.  We don't forget we are
>> citizen-soldiers
>> (not merely warriors).
>>
>> We definitely will have these at our event when we return to the NY Power
>> Authority property at Bleinheim- Gilboa  for a 230th of the Raid on
>> Cobuskill  in 2008 (May 31- June 1) .   As anyone who has attended our
>> past
>> events at this great site, know-- we have acres and acres of varied
>> terrain
>> to plan our various scenarios upon.
>>
>> The BVMA is supporting the event, but other umbrella insured militia units
>> are invited to attend as well (we did do an announcement at the annual CL
>> meeting).   We have many opposing forces who love to engage at this site ,
>> so the tacticals are usually stimulating as well.
>>
>> If there are any specifc militia scenarios , you would like to see/ be a
>> part of  at the event, let us know, or discuss here.
>>
>> (Of course, two weeks after this year's Saratoga is the Burning of
>> Kingston
>> October 20-21 - and the most accurate colonial  portrayal there is
>> militia,
>> and command is by militia- you're welcome there too, let me know)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dean Barnes
>> 1st Ulster Co Militia
>> 2nd Albany Co Militia
>> BVMA Chairman
>>
>> ³Flattery and admiration are the two principal engines by which our sex
>> make
>> their first approaches to yours; and if you listen to us, we are sure,
>> either by the sap or the mine, to succeed, and
>> blow you up when ever we please, if we do but take care to suit ourselves
>> to
>> your particular foibles; or, to carry on the metaphor,point our batteries
>> to
>> your weak side--for the strongest fortresses,
>> my dear, are weaker in one place than another. ­³Samuel Richardson, Pamela
>> 1740
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>         Re: Militia being Militia problems- repeat 2003
>>>     Posted by:      "Alexander Cain"
>>>       mass1775@...
>>>>       Fri May 18, 2007 5:16 pm        (PST)
>>>
>> (Snips)
>>> As a starting point, like Glenn, I love being "militia".  I think it's a
>>> portrayal that is often under utilized and subject to many
>>> misconceptions.
>>> Do I like being a filler for a Continental company?  Heck no.  Do I love
>>> it
>>> when the militia is brigaded together?  Absolutely.  Saratoga's 225th was
>>> a
>>> perfect example of such a scenario.  Should we be brigaded at future
>>> events?  Ideally yes.  But to do so, I think, takes not only
>>> consideration
>>> from event sponsors, but effort from our end as well.
>>>
>>> This brings me to my next question/point.  I'm sure we all want the
>>> militia
>>> to be properly represented and *portrayed*.  What can we do to improve
>>> militia portrayals at events?  Scenarios involving election of militia
>>> officers?  Patrols?  Foraging actions?  Fatigue duties?  Drills?
>>> Recruiting of state troops for short campaigns?
>>>
>>> And how about a school for militia?  Has one ever been proposed before?
>>> I
>>> know I could learn a lot from members of Outwater's, Heard's, 2nd Albany,
>>> 1st Ulster, Danvers Alarm, Rehoboth, 24th Conn. and many other fine
>>> militia
>>> units that exist in the hobby.
>>
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Militiamen,
     Let there be known that there is an "open" opportunity to fall in with
the Militia Brigade at Bordentown ,as an individual, "attached",even if your
unit is not attending.Contact Captain Tichenor of the New Jersey Militia,Heard's
Brigade.
Contact Name: Steve Tichenor
Screen Name: _Tichenorse@..._ (mailto:Tichenorse@...)

Ken Miller
Adjutant
New Jersey Militia,Heard's Brigade



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committee of the whole, to take into consideration &c. After some time spent
thereon, the president resumed the chair, and Mr [Samuel] Ward reported, that
not having yet come to a conclusion they desired him to move for leave to sit
again. At the same time they desired him to report some resolutions which they
had come into.

   The resolutions being read, were adopted as follows:

   Resolved, That six companies of expert riflemen, be immediately raised in
Pen[n]sylvania, two in Maryland, and two in Virginia; that each company consist
of a captain, three lieutenants, four serjeants, four corporals, a drummer or
trumpeter, and sixty-eight privates.

   That each company, as soon as compleated, shall march and join the army near
Boston, to be there employed as light infantry, under the command of the chief
Officer in that army.

   That the pay of the Officers and privates be as follows, viz. a captain @ 20
dollars per month; a lieutenant @ 132 dollars; a serjeant @ 8 dollars; a
corporal @ 72 dollars; drummer or [trumpeter] @ 72 doll.; privates @ 6B dollars;
to find their own arms and cloaths.

   That the form of the enlistment be in the following words:
   I have, this day, voluntarily enlisted myself, as a soldier, in the American
continental army, for one year, unless sooner discharged: And I do bind myself
to conform, in all instances, to such rules and regulations, as are, or shall
be, established for the government of the sad Army.

   Upon motion, Resolved, That Mr. [George] Washington, Mr. [Philip] Schuyler,
Mr. [Silas] Deane, Mr. [Thomas] Cushing, and Mr. [Joseph] Hewes be a committee
to bring in a dra't of Rules and regulations for the government of the army.

   SOURCE: Worthington Chauncey Ford, Editor. JOURNALS OF THE CONTINENTAL
CONGRESS 1774-1789. Volume II (May 10-September 20, 1775). WASHINGTON:
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE, 1905. Pages 89-90.

   Happy 232d Birthday to the US Army – Hooah!

   Glenn F. Williams
   Senior Historian
   Army Commemoration Office
   US Army Center of Military History
   103 Third Ave, Bldg. 35
   Fort Lesley J. McNair, DC 20319-5058
   Voice: 202-685-4117  FAX: 202-685-2081
   e-mail: glenn.williams@...

   "The Fate of Unborn Millions Now Depends,
     Under God, on the Courage and Conduct of the Army"
     -  George Washington, August 1776


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From the Journals of the Constinental Congress

   June 15, 1775

   Ordered, That this be transmitted, by the Prest., in a letter to the chairman
of the convention of New York.

   Agreeable to the order of the day, the Congress resolved itself into a
committee of the whole to take into consideration the ways and means of raising
money and the state of America; after some time spent therein the president
resumed the chair, and Mr. [Samuel] Ward reported, that the committee had come
to certain resolutions, which they desired him to report, but not having yet
come to a conclusion ordered him to move for leave to sit again.

   The report of the committee being read and debated,

   Resolved, That a General be appointed to command all the continental forces,
raised, or to be raised, for the defence of American liberty.

   That five hundred dollars, per month, be allowed for his pay and expences.
   The Congress then proceeded to the choice of a general, by ballot, when George
Washington, Esq. was unanimously elected.
     [Note - These resolutions were printed in the Pennsylvania Packet, 11
December, 1775. Washington was nominated by Thomas Johnson of Maryland, and the
election was unanimous. The attitude of the Congress and the causes leading to
this choice are fully described in the Diary and later correspondence of John
Adams.]
   Resolved, that the Congress will to Morrow again resolve itself into a
committee of the whole to take into consideration the state of America.

   June 16, 1775

   The congress met according to adjournment.

   The president from the chair informed Geo: Washington Esqr. that he had the
order of the Congress to acq[ain]t him, that the Congress had by a unanimous
vote made choice of him to be general and com[mander] in chief to take the
supreme command of the forces raised and to be raised, in defence of American
Liberty, and desired his acceptance of it.

   June 17, 1775

   The delegates of the United Colonies of New Hampshire, Massachusetts bay,
Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pensylvania, the Counties of
New-Castle, Kent, and Sussex, on Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina,
and South Carolina; To George Washington, Esq.

   We, reposing special trust and confidence in your patriotism, valor, conduct,
and fidelity, do, by these presents, constitute and appoint you to be General
and Commander in chief, of the army of the United Colonies, and of all the
forces now raised, or to be raised, by them, and of all others who shall
voluntarily offer their service, and join the said Army for the Defence of
American liberty, and for repelling every hostile invasion thereof: And you are
hereby vested with full power and authority to act as you shall think for the
good and welfare of the service.
   And we do hereby strictly charge and require all Officers and Soldiers, under
your command, to be obedient to your orders, and diligent in the exercise of
their several duties.

   And we do also enjoin and require you, to be careful in executing the great
trust reposed in you, by causing strict discipline and order to be observed in
the army, and that the soldiers be duly exercised, and provided with all
convenient necessaries.

   And you are to regulate your conduct in every respect by the rules and
discipline of war, (as herewith given you,) and punctually to observe and follow
such orders and directions, from time to time, as you shall receive from this,
or a future Congress of these United Colonies, or committee of Congress.

   This commission to continue in force, until revoked by this, or a future
Congress.
   By order of the Congress.

   <end>

   Glenn F. Williams
   Senior Historian
   Army Commemoration Office
   US Army Center of Military History
   103 Third Ave, Bldg. 35
   Fort Lesley J. McNair, DC 20319-5058
   Voice: 202-685-4117  FAX: 202-685-2081
   e-mail: glenn.williams@...

   "The Fate of Unborn Millions Now Depends,
     Under God, on the Courage and Conduct of the Army"
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With less than two months away, close to 200 participants and 11
merchants have registered for the 230th Anniversary of the Battle of
Cooch's Bridge event at Brandywine Creek State Park in Wilmington DE
to take place August 25-26, 2007.

Registration closes soon, so interested units are encouraged to
register online by going to http://www.battleofcoochsbridge.org/
Registration.html — the event is open to all BAR, BB, and CL units.
Thus far, the following units have registered:

British Units
17th Regiment of Foot
40th Regiment of Foot, Light Company
52nd Regiment of Foot, Light Company
HM Sloop OTTER

German Units
Infanterie-Regiment von Donop
Regiment von Knyphausen

Provincial Units
4th Battalion, New Jersey Volunteers
Butler's Rangers, Frey's Company

Continental Units
2d Virginia Regiment
3rd New Jersey Regiment
3rd New York Regt. Long Island Co.
Corps of Sappers and Miners
German Regiment
2d Dragoons, Tallmadge's Troop
4th Continental Light Dragoons, Fauntleroy's Troop
Department of the Geographer
Berks County Associators
Outwater's Militia
Pawling's Independent Corps of Levies

Merchants
G. Gedney Godwin
Druid's Oak
Burnley & Trowbridge
Najecki Reproductions
Historic Delights
WireHarp Productions
Mountain Guil Trading Company
Blue Hen Bakers
Rancocas Merchant
18th Century Gowns
Amey's Adornments

Brandywine Creek State Park is located three miles north of
Wilmington, Delaware at the intersection of Delaware Routes 100 and
92. The 933-acre park has a mix of open fields, rolling hills, and
woodlands, supplemented with modern amenities such as water spigots
and restroom facilities. The park is largely secluded from modern
intrusions and its staff has ten years of experience hosting an
American Civil War living history weekend that has attracted as many
as two thousand re-enactors.

For details about the event, go to http://www.battleofcoochsbridge.org

Todd Post
Event Coordinator
todd.post2@...

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The Historic Mid town Historic Elizabeth  event is Saturday, July 14th.
Outwater¹s Militia is the host unit. As stated previously, units will be
paid  $15 per participant, and they will be provided a buffet lunch.
Attendees should arrive by 10am, and the event will end at 3:30pm.  They
will be a short skirmish and a tour of the historic cemetery.
    Outwater's will set up a couple of flys and a demo of a soldiers tent, so
units can "come light" with out a lot of gear if they wish.  The event
should have many public coming thru to talk to the reenactors!
   IF you have not told me how many of your people are coming, please let me
know so I can arrange for the food.
  Below are directions to the Old Presybterian Church, 42 Broad  St., in
Elizabeth, NJ, where the event will be:



From 287 South

  Merge onto US-1 N via EXIT 1A toward NEWARK. 11.4 miles

  Turn RIGHT onto BAYWAY CIR. <0.1 miles

  Turn RIGHT onto SUMMER ST. 0.2 miles

   Turn LEFT onto S BROAD ST / CR-623. Continue to follow S BROAD ST. 0.9
miles

   End at First Presbyterian Church



  From WEST on Rt. 78.

Take EXIT 54 toward I-78 W / HILLSIDE. 0.8 miles

   Turn LEFT onto MAPLE AVE. <0.1 miles

  Turn RIGHT onto WILLIAMSON AVE. 0.3 miles

  Turn RIGHT onto N BROAD ST / CR-623. Continue to follow N BROAD ST. 2.3
miles

  Turn RIGHT onto BROAD ST. 0.2 miles

  : End at First Presbyterian Church:
42 Broad St, Elizabeth, NJ 07201, US



From North Jersey- at Newark Airport
  Merge onto US-1 9 S / US-1 & 9 S / US-1 S / US-9 S. 3.3 miles

  Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto W MRAVLAG PL. 0.1 miles

  Turn RIGHT onto ELIZABETH AVE. 0.3 miles

   Turn RIGHT onto BROAD ST. 0.1 miles
  End at First Presbyterian Church:
42 Broad St, Elizabeth, NJ 07201, US




Your humble servant,

Glenn Valis

Commander, Outwater's Militia



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For anyone who ordered the "Yorktown" DVD:

We've finally just finished the editing on the "Yorktown 225th" DVD,
and as I type this, the final pieces are being mastered and sent off
for mass duplication of the DVDs themselves... once we finally have
the boxes and boxes of the discs in hand, we'll be mailing them all
out.  I've had my interns labeling envelopes for the past week, so
that's all set to go, and we'll be able to mail the DVDs out quickly,
once the duplicated discs arrive.  I'm very sorry for the delay in
getting this out, but clocking in at over 2 hours of material on the
DVD, I think you'll be very happy with the final product!  In a few
short weeks, it will be in your hand, and I'll certainly sigh with
relief.

Thanks for your patience.

Kevin Hershberger
http://www.lionheart-filmworks.com

Dear Friends and Fellow Historians,

   In the event you are not also a member of the Council on America's Military
Past (CAMP) National Capital Department, you may be interested in our next
event.

   On Saturday, July 28, 2007, we will have a French and Indian War "tour." 
After meeting in Urbana, Maryland (near Frederick), we will car-caravan to Fort
Loudoun (near Chambersburg, PA), then to Fort Frederick (near Hancock, MD).

   As you probably know, Fort Loudoun (see: http://www.fortloudoun-pa.com/ and
http://www.fortedwards.org/cwffa/loudoun.htm) is a reconstruction of a post
built in 1756 as part of Pennsylvania's chain of forts to protect British
colonists, and served as a protected camp and supply depot for Forbes' campaign
to seize Fort Duguense and Bouquet's expedition during Pontiac's War.

   Fort Frederick (see:
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/publiclands/western/fortfrederick.html and
http://www.fortedwards.org/cwffa/ft-fred.htm) was also built in 1756, to protect
Maryland colony from invasion along the Potomac River.  It is unique for its
stone construction, and much of the wall structure is extant to the 18th
century; with restoration of the walls done by CCC labor during the Great
Depression, and reconstruction of the barracks completed more recently.  The
post was also used as a supply base during British campaigns during Pontiac's
War; as well as a prison camp for British and Hessian prisoners of war during
the American Revolution, and where Col. Moses Rawlings attempted to raise his
late-war rifle corps.

   The plan is to leave the Urbana Park & Ride at 8:00 AM, and return by about
7:00 PM.  For more information, contact Mr. Philip Granum, 1 Columbia Ct.,
Rockville, MD 20850-1009; or telephone 301-424-4806 (home) or 301-908-0134
(cell).  If interested, please notify Mr. Granum NLT July 23.  Please excuse the
cross-posting.  Thanks.

   Best Regards,

   Glenn


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List,

Registration for the 230th of the Battle of Cooch's Bridge to be held August
25-26, 2007 at Brandywine Creek State Park in Wilmington DE now tops 300
registered participants and 12 merchants!

REGISTERED UNITS
Lamb's Artillery Company
1st Pennsylvania Battalion
1st Rhode Island Regiment
2d Virginia Regiment
2nd New Jersey Regiment
2nd North Carolina Regiment
3rd New Jersey Regiment
3rd New York Regt. Long Island Co.
Corps of Sappers and Miners
German Regiment
2d Dragoons, Tallmadge's Troop
4th Continental Light Dragoons, Fauntleroy's Troop
Heard's Brigade, Militia Horse Contingent
Department of the Geographer
5th Virginia Regiment
Berks County Associators
Outwater's Militia
Pawling's Independent Corps of Levies
7th Virginia Regiment
First Pennsylvania Regiment

17th Regiment of Foot
38th Regiment of Foot
40th Regiment of Foot, Light Company
52nd Regiment of Foot, Light Company
HM Sloop OTTER

Infanterie Regiment Erb-Prinz
Infanterie-Regiment von Donop
Regiment von Huyn
Regiment von Knyphausen
Jaeger Companie von Roeder
Von Prueschenck's Company, Feld Jaeger Corp
4th Battalion, New Jersey Volunteers
Butler's Rangers, Frey's Company

REGISTERED MERCHANTS
G. Gedney Godwin
Druid's Oak
Burnley & Trowbridge
Najecki Reproductions
Historic Delights
WireHarp Productions
Mountain Guil Trading Company
Blue Hen Bakers
Rancocas Merchant
18th Century Gowns
Amey's Adornments

I'm still in the process of making the final tweaks to the event deatils, which
I intend to email and snail mail to all registered units soon, as well as update
the web page.  In the meantime, registration has been extended and units that
still would like to come can go to the web page to register:

http://www.battleofcoochsbridge.org/registration.html

Some of the details being filled in include a Friday night lecture about the
history of the battle for participants only, a Sunday morning non-public
tactical, etc.

Please contact me at todd.post2@... with any questions you may have
about the event.

Sincerely,
Todd Post, Event Coordinator
230th Battle of Cooch's Bridge
www.battleofcoochsbridge.org

Dear Friends and Fellow Historians,

   I thought it was time to give you an update on some legislation in Congress
that has an impact on the interest of our fellow list members (pardon the
cross-posting).

   FYI:

   Concerning the War of 1812 Bicentennial Commission bill and the Star-Spangled
Banner National Historic Trail bill: We have some encouraging and not so
encouraging news.

   The Star-Spangled Banner National Historic Trail Act (HR 1388) and 1812
Bicentennial Commission Act (HR 1389) have both passed the House. Half way
there.

   The Star-Spangled Banner Bicentennial Commemorative Coin Act (HR 2894) is in
the committee on Financial Services.

   On the Senate side the SSB NHT Act (S 797) and 1812 Bicentennial Commission
Act have both passed through committee reviews. However, it is the Senate side,
where it had difficulties last session.  Fiscally conservative Senator Tom
Coburn (OK) is still making every effort to hold up these bills. Hopefully after
the summer recess new attempts will be made and more positive news can be
announced.

   The Revolutionary War and War of 1812 Battlefield Protection Act (HR 160), to
create a grant program similar to one already established for Civil War
battlefields, to assist state and local government agencies, land-trust
organizations, and private non-profit historic preservation organizations, in
the the acquisition of battlefield land for preservation, is currently in the
sub-committee on National Parks, Forests and Public Land.

   The companion Revolutionary War and War of 1812 Battlefield Commemorative Coin
Act  (HR 158), which will authorize the Treasury to mint commemorative coins
depicting battles from the two conflicts as numismatic items for sale to the
public, the proceeds of which will help fund the acquisition grant program, is
currently in the House sub-committee on Domestic and International Policy and
Treasury Technology.

   The Washington-Rochambeau National Historic Trail Designation Act: The Senate
version (S. 686) has been placed on the legislative calendar; the House version,
HR 1286, has is in the sub-committee on National Parks, Forests and Public Land.

   The Battle of Camden Study Act (HR 1674), which will explore the feasibility
of adding the Camden battlefield to the National Park Service, has been
introduced on the House side.

   The Civil War Sesquicentennial Commission Act (HR 1131) is in in the
sub-committee on the Federal Workforce.

   The Civil War Battlefield Protection Act of 2007 (HR 2933), which would extend
the current program for awarding land acquisition grants for the preservation of
Civil War battlefields, is currently in the sub-committee on National Parks,
Forests and Public Lands.

   Best Regards,

   Glenn



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Dear friends and Fellow Historians,

   As most of you know, before assuming my current position as a Senior Historian
at the US Army Center of Military History, I was the Historian for the National
Park Service's American Battlefield Protection Program (ABPP).  Some of you who
are familiar with the ABPP know that it seemed as if the program did not
distribute much grant money in past years.  Due to a limited budget,
applications were awarded "points" in various categories, and those with the
"highest" scores, were rank ordered on a competitive basis.  Awards were then
distributed from the highest score in descending order until all funds were
exhausted.  Usually a number of deserving projects could not receive grants just
because there was not enough money.

   That is changing, however.  Last year, FY 2007, the ABPP was budgeted enough
so that every qualified application was awarded a grant AND there was even money
left over!  Because the ABPP did not want to let it go unused, some 2006
applications that were otherwise good, but fell below the cut-off when funds ran
out, were notified they could receive grant money for FY 2007.

   My former colleagues tell me that they are expecting to award even more in FY
2008.

   I would suggest any preservation groups that are interested to contact Ms
Kristen McMasters at ABPP as soon as possible (also, let her know where you
heard about it).  Think about projects that are somewhat expensive, like
archeological surveys to define the "core" and limits of the engagement area. 
Such data are also essential for nominating the site to the National Register of
Historic Places.  Remember that ABPP grant money may NOT be used for land
acquisition or construction projects, or refreshments and entertainment at fund
raising events.

   Here is the official announcement:

   The American Battlefield Protection Program (ABPP) of the National Park
Service invites Federal agencies, tribal, state, and local governments,
educational institutions, and nonprofit historical preservation and other
private sector organizations to submit applications for grants.  The purpose of
this grant program is to provide seed money for projects that lead directly to
the identification, preservation and interpretation of battlefield land and/or
historic sites associated with battlefields.  In recent years grants have
averaged about $32,300 per award.  Applications must be received in the ABPP
office by January 18, 2008.  Visit the ABPP website at www.cr.nps.gov/abpp for
details, or contact Kristen McMasters, grants manager, at (202) 354-2037, or by
e-mail at Kristen_McMasters@....

   Best Regards,

   Glenn


   Best Regards,

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Dear Friends and Fellow Historians,

   The American Revolution Round Table of the District of Columbia will begin its
2007-2008 season on Wednesday 5 September, at the Officers Club at Fort Meyer
(Arlington), Virginia.  Events begin with a social hour at about 6:00 pm,
followed by dinner at 7:00 and the presentation at 8:00.

   The September meeting will feature "Why did American Revolutionaries Join
Freemasonry?" The talk will discuss the origins of Freemasonry in Great Britain,
its evolution during the 1700s and it establishment and growth in the colonies.
The talk will further explain why such diverse men as George Washington, Paul
Revere, Benjamin Franklin and Prince Hall joined the fraternity. Lastly, the
talk will review the role Freemasonry and individual Freemasons played in
securing independence from the British Crown.  The speaker is Mark A. Tabbert,
Director of Collections, George Washington Masonic National Memorial.

   For more information, call: (703) 360-9712; write:  ARRT DC, PO Box 137, Mount
Vernon, VA 22121; or see our web page at: 
http://www.xenophongroup.com/patriot/arrt/arrt_web.htm

   Best Regards,

   Glenn


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