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#30504 From: "Gary" <g.fleck@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has begun
jesuschr2001
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Ok Al, I see your point, but, my point is, do you/can you see where other folks
are coming from, without becoming disrespectful... and, don't get me wrong here,
I really like you, and your fighting spirit, (and concern for others health and
well being) really, believe it or not, but, you, like me, have apparently, a
hair-trigger... (go ahead, use this against me if you wish) Gary

--- In ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
wrote:
>
>  
>
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@...> wrote:
>  
>  
> >>What are you talking about Al, I simply answered your replies. Gary
>  
> You answered, all right. With this:
>  
> I am here , in this time and space Al, you are in your location… speculating
at best, although I find many of your speculations faulty…
>  
> *** and, your knowledge, which is your speculation, I suspect… may be
all-knowing?
>  
> ***yes, but so far you mostly disrespect what I see and report/
>  
> ***I sense that is a thinly veiled shot over my bow… Al, I was beginning to
think you were better than that……..
>  
> I'm "speculating", I'm "all-knowing", I "disrespect what you see and report",
I put "a shot over your bow", you wrote.
>  
> Where'd all that stuff come from, and how is it justifiable?
>  
> Dragon
>
>
>
> From: Gary <g.fleck@...>
> Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault
has begun
> To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 5:30 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> What are you talking about Al, I simply answered your replies. Gary
>
> --- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst ar@>
wrote:
> >
> > What's with all the ranting and raving? I asked a simple question. You get
all hostile and suspicious. What's your problem?
> >  
> > Dragon
> >
> > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@ > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Gary <g.fleck@ >
> > Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtracki ngs-The final
assault has begun
> > To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 2:43 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > See my replies intermixed in the dialogue below... *** Gary
> >
> > --- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst
ar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Fight back. Spray the towers with DA!
> > > Â
> > > We have a few chemtrails here, but nothing noteworthy. They come, they
disappear, and in a couple of months they'll try it again.
> > ***
> > so...
> >
> > > Â
> > > I looked at some Texas web cams and did not see any chemtrails. Looked at
downtown L.A., LAX, and Burbank web cams. Mt. Wilson, too. Did not see even one.
> > > Â
> > > The Californians complain when I refer to web cam images. :-) Even so, a
'final assault' should be big enough to show up on web cams.
> > > Â
> > ***
> > Ah Al, you certainly should understand that artificial devices such as
web-cams are not even close to what the human eyes perceives, even in it's
currently reduced mode of operation... which is the main reason why those on
location often debate your "that's not what I/you see via web-cams in your
area"…
> >
> > > You can't go by what the Tracking forum residents say. They do get excited
at times, exaggerate the problem, and some of them, likewise some on this forum
too, see every white cloud as a chemcloud. Sylphs get mis-identified as
chemclouds.
> > ***
> > Ok, I agree fully, many folks get excited, and often post , what to them
(then) appears as the truth of what is currently happening, (most often
wrong)(but, I often see you doing exactly the same thing in response to these
type folks)…
> >
> > > Â
> > > The question in my mind is what happens to the trails after they are laid?
And particularly in your area, Gary.
> > ***They, the chems hang in the sky, merge, cover the sky… I am here ,
in this time and space Al, you are in your location… speculating at best,
although I find many of your speculations faulty… and, I must also ask,
why are you are in particular singling my area out, as opposed to any other
area, other than to discredit what I am seeing and reporting….
Hhhhhmmmm… good question…
> > No one has sprayed in that region, not to my knowledge.
> > *** and, your knowledge, which is your speculation, I suspect… may be
all-knowing?
> >
> > The only protection you all have is the charged rain water that was
brought to you by last year's Hurricane Ike. I remotely charged the water in
that storm, and I'm curious to see if the local towers picked it up. If they
did, you will see trails disappear instead of linger.
> > ***which is your knowledge only apparently, please share…
> > > Â
> > > Some places, most places in the world, we don't have boots on the ground.
It has to be done remotely. You live in one such place.
> > ***yes, but so far you mostly disrespect what I see and report/and what many
others see and report, so what's your point in even mentioning that?
> > > Â
> > > The Californians have done a lot of work in their area. They are as
protected as they're gonna get until someone takes on the task of liberating the
rest of the state.
> > ***I sense that is a thinly veiled shat over my bow… Al, I was
beginning to think you were better than that……..
> > > Â
> > > If I was posting there; I'm a member but don't hang out there, I'd be
asking the 'final assault' reporters for photos.
> > > Â
> > > Dragon
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@ > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Gary <g.fleck@ >
> > > Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtracki ngs-The final
assault has begun
> > > To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 12:39 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know if I would go that far Al, but we have recently (for over a
week and a half been pummeled by nearly constant heavy chemtrailing the likes of
which I haven't seen for a long time around here. Even on the few overcast days
here lately, one can see the chems between the clouds. Something's up, I don't
know what, but something has changed around here as far as chemtrailing. Gary
> > >
> > > --- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst
ar@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > Do you see a 'final assault' type of activity in your area?
> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > Dragon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Gary <g.fleck@ >
> > > > Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtracki ngs-The final
assault has begun
> > > > To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:38 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I know this info is controversial, and will be rebutted, and
dismissed... which is expected, I just wanted to share this with those who
perhaps have an alternate viewpoint of what is coming down from some on this
group. I like to explore both sides of an issue. Gary
> > > >
> > > > chemtrailtrackings- The final assault has begun
> > > > Posted by: "jaspen40" no_reply@yahoogroup s.com jaspen40
> > > > Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:13 pm (PST)
> > > >
> > > > All over the planet, the final assaul has begun. In every forum and
every website everyone is reproting an unprecedented amount of spraying done
starting on Monday and continuing through to this evening.
> > > > The number of people entering into the emergency rooms are unbelievable.
Everything is being reported from Swine Flu to Heart Attacks and strokes.
> > > > ARI or Acute Respiraatory Illness is the main sickness as has been
reported throughout the Ukraine and Poland.
> > > > Has it finally begun? Stay inside as much as possible. Put new air
filters in your purifiers.
> > > > Get your Super Silvers ready and stock up on food water and ammunition
and keep an eye on the Ukrainse, Britain and many areas in the U.S.
> > > > I personally have never seen this much activity. The last three days has
been awful, however it seems that everyone I am talking to on the streets are
awakening as the spraying is so ad, no one can deny it.
> > > > Is it too late?
> > > > I guess we will see.
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#30503 From: Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has begun
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--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@...> wrote:
 
 
>>What are you talking about Al, I simply answered your replies. Gary
 
You answered, all right. With this:
 
I am here , in this time and space Al, you are in your location… speculating
at best, although I find many of your speculations faulty…
 
*** and, your knowledge, which is your speculation, I suspect… may be
all-knowing?
 
***yes, but so far you mostly disrespect what I see and report/
 
***I sense that is a thinly veiled shot over my bow… Al, I was beginning to
think you were better than that……..
 
I'm "speculating", I'm "all-knowing", I "disrespect what you see and report", I
put "a shot over your bow", you wrote.
 
Where'd all that stuff come from, and how is it justifiable?
 
Dragon



From: Gary <g.fleck@...>
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault
has begun
To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 5:30 PM


 



What are you talking about Al, I simply answered your replies. Gary

--- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst ar@...>
wrote:
>
> What's with all the ranting and raving? I asked a simple question. You get all
hostile and suspicious. What's your problem?
>  
> Dragon
>
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@... > wrote:
>
>
> From: Gary <g.fleck@... >
> Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtracki ngs-The final assault
has begun
> To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 2:43 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> See my replies intermixed in the dialogue below... *** Gary
>
> --- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst ar@>
wrote:
> >
> > Fight back. Spray the towers with DA!
> > Â
> > We have a few chemtrails here, but nothing noteworthy. They come, they
disappear, and in a couple of months they'll try it again.
> ***
> so...
>
> > Â
> > I looked at some Texas web cams and did not see any chemtrails. Looked at
downtown L.A., LAX, and Burbank web cams. Mt. Wilson, too. Did not see even one.
> > Â
> > The Californians complain when I refer to web cam images. :-) Even so, a
'final assault' should be big enough to show up on web cams.
> > Â
> ***
> Ah Al, you certainly should understand that artificial devices such as
web-cams are not even close to what the human eyes perceives, even in it's
currently reduced mode of operation... which is the main reason why those on
location often debate your "that's not what I/you see via web-cams in your
area"…
>
> > You can't go by what the Tracking forum residents say. They do get excited
at times, exaggerate the problem, and some of them, likewise some on this forum
too, see every white cloud as a chemcloud. Sylphs get mis-identified as
chemclouds.
> ***
> Ok, I agree fully, many folks get excited, and often post , what to them
(then) appears as the truth of what is currently happening, (most often
wrong)(but, I often see you doing exactly the same thing in response to these
type folks)…
>
> > Â
> > The question in my mind is what happens to the trails after they are laid?
And particularly in your area, Gary.
> ***They, the chems hang in the sky, merge, cover the sky… I am here , in
this time and space Al, you are in your location… speculating at best,
although I find many of your speculations faulty… and, I must also ask,
why are you are in particular singling my area out, as opposed to any other
area, other than to discredit what I am seeing and reporting….
Hhhhhmmmm… good question…
> No one has sprayed in that region, not to my knowledge.
> *** and, your knowledge, which is your speculation, I suspect… may be
all-knowing?
>
> The only protection you all have is the charged rain water that was
brought to you by last year's Hurricane Ike. I remotely charged the water in
that storm, and I'm curious to see if the local towers picked it up. If they
did, you will see trails disappear instead of linger.
> ***which is your knowledge only apparently, please share…
> > Â
> > Some places, most places in the world, we don't have boots on the ground. It
has to be done remotely. You live in one such place.
> ***yes, but so far you mostly disrespect what I see and report/and what many
others see and report, so what's your point in even mentioning that?
> > Â
> > The Californians have done a lot of work in their area. They are as
protected as they're gonna get until someone takes on the task of liberating the
rest of the state.
> ***I sense that is a thinly veiled shat over my bow… Al, I was beginning
to think you were better than that……..
> > Â
> > If I was posting there; I'm a member but don't hang out there, I'd be asking
the 'final assault' reporters for photos.
> > Â
> > Dragon
> > Â
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@ > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Gary <g.fleck@ >
> > Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtracki ngs-The final
assault has begun
> > To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 12:39 PM
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't know if I would go that far Al, but we have recently (for over a
week and a half been pummeled by nearly constant heavy chemtrailing the likes of
which I haven't seen for a long time around here. Even on the few overcast days
here lately, one can see the chems between the clouds. Something's up, I don't
know what, but something has changed around here as far as chemtrailing. Gary
> >
> > --- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst
ar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > > Do you see a 'final assault' type of activity in your area?
> > > ÂÂ
> > > Dragon
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@ > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Gary <g.fleck@ >
> > > Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtracki ngs-The final assault
has begun
> > > To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:38 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know this info is controversial, and will be rebutted, and dismissed...
which is expected, I just wanted to share this with those who perhaps have an
alternate viewpoint of what is coming down from some on this group. I like to
explore both sides of an issue. Gary
> > >
> > > chemtrailtrackings- The final assault has begun
> > > Posted by: "jaspen40" no_reply@yahoogroup s.com jaspen40
> > > Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:13 pm (PST)
> > >
> > > All over the planet, the final assaul has begun. In every forum and every
website everyone is reproting an unprecedented amount of spraying done starting
on Monday and continuing through to this evening.
> > > The number of people entering into the emergency rooms are unbelievable.
Everything is being reported from Swine Flu to Heart Attacks and strokes.
> > > ARI or Acute Respiraatory Illness is the main sickness as has been
reported throughout the Ukraine and Poland.
> > > Has it finally begun? Stay inside as much as possible. Put new air filters
in your purifiers.
> > > Get your Super Silvers ready and stock up on food water and ammunition and
keep an eye on the Ukrainse, Britain and many areas in the U.S.
> > > I personally have never seen this much activity. The last three days has
been awful, however it seems that everyone I am talking to on the streets are
awakening as the spraying is so ad, no one can deny it.
> > > Is it too late?
> > > I guess we will see.
> > >
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#30502 From: "Gary" <g.fleck@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has begun
jesuschr2001
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Send Email Send Email
 
What are you talking about Al, I simply answered your replies. Gary


--- In ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
wrote:
>
> What's with all the ranting and raving? I asked a simple question. You get all
hostile and suspicious. What's your problem?
>  
> Dragon
>
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Gary <g.fleck@...>
> Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault
has begun
> To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 2:43 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> See my replies intermixed in the dialogue below... *** Gary
>
> --- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst ar@>
wrote:
> >
> > Fight back. Spray the towers with DA!
> > Â
> > We have a few chemtrails here, but nothing noteworthy. They come, they
disappear, and in a couple of months they'll try it again.
> ***
> so...
>
> > Â
> > I looked at some Texas web cams and did not see any chemtrails. Looked at
downtown L.A., LAX, and Burbank web cams. Mt. Wilson, too. Did not see even one.
> > Â
> > The Californians complain when I refer to web cam images. :-) Even so, a
'final assault' should be big enough to show up on web cams.
> > Â
> ***
> Ah Al, you certainly should understand that artificial devices such as
web-cams are not even close to what the human eyes perceives, even in it's
currently reduced mode of operation... which is the main reason why those on
location often debate your "that's not what I/you see via web-cams in your
area"…
>
> > You can't go by what the Tracking forum residents say. They do get excited
at times, exaggerate the problem, and some of them, likewise some on this forum
too, see every white cloud as a chemcloud. Sylphs get mis-identified as
chemclouds.
> ***
> Ok, I agree fully, many folks get excited, and often post , what to them
(then) appears as the truth of what is currently happening, (most often
wrong)(but, I often see you doing exactly the same thing in response to these
type folks)…
>
> > Â
> > The question in my mind is what happens to the trails after they are laid?
And particularly in your area, Gary.
> ***They, the chems hang in the sky, merge, cover the sky… I am here , in
this time and space Al, you are in your location… speculating at best,
although I find many of your speculations faulty… and, I must also ask, why
are you are in particular singling my area out, as opposed to any other area,
other than to discredit what I am seeing and reporting…. Hhhhhmmmm… good
question…
> No one has sprayed in that region, not to my knowledge.
> *** and, your knowledge, which is your speculation, I suspect… may be
all-knowing?
>
> The only protection you all have is the charged rain water that was brought
to you by last year's Hurricane Ike. I remotely charged the water in that storm,
and I'm curious to see if the local towers picked it up. If they did, you will
see trails disappear instead of linger.
> ***which is your knowledge only apparently, please share…
> > Â
> > Some places, most places in the world, we don't have boots on the ground. It
has to be done remotely. You live in one such place.
> ***yes, but so far you mostly disrespect what I see and report/and what many
others see and report, so what's your point in even mentioning that?
> > Â
> > The Californians have done a lot of work in their area. They are as
protected as they're gonna get until someone takes on the task of liberating the
rest of the state.
> ***I sense that is a thinly veiled shat over my bow… Al, I was beginning to
think you were better than that……..
> > Â
> > If I was posting there; I'm a member but don't hang out there, I'd be asking
the 'final assault' reporters for photos.
> > Â
> > Dragon
> > Â
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@ > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Gary <g.fleck@ >
> > Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtracki ngs-The final
assault has begun
> > To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 12:39 PM
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't know if I would go that far Al, but we have recently (for over a
week and a half been pummeled by nearly constant heavy chemtrailing the likes of
which I haven't seen for a long time around here. Even on the few overcast days
here lately, one can see the chems between the clouds. Something's up, I don't
know what, but something has changed around here as far as chemtrailing. Gary
> >
> > --- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst
ar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > > Do you see a 'final assault' type of activity in your area?
> > > ÂÂ
> > > Dragon
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@ > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Gary <g.fleck@ >
> > > Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtracki ngs-The final assault
has begun
> > > To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:38 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know this info is controversial, and will be rebutted, and dismissed...
which is expected, I just wanted to share this with those who perhaps have an
alternate viewpoint of what is coming down from some on this group. I like to
explore both sides of an issue. Gary
> > >
> > > chemtrailtrackings- The final assault has begun
> > > Posted by: "jaspen40" no_reply@yahoogroup s.com jaspen40
> > > Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:13 pm (PST)
> > >
> > > All over the planet, the final assaul has begun. In every forum and every
website everyone is reproting an unprecedented amount of spraying done starting
on Monday and continuing through to this evening.
> > > The number of people entering into the emergency rooms are unbelievable.
Everything is being reported from Swine Flu to Heart Attacks and strokes.
> > > ARI or Acute Respiraatory Illness is the main sickness as has been
reported throughout the Ukraine and Poland.
> > > Has it finally begun? Stay inside as much as possible. Put new air filters
in your purifiers.
> > > Get your Super Silvers ready and stock up on food water and ammunition and
keep an eye on the Ukrainse, Britain and many areas in the U.S.
> > > I personally have never seen this much activity. The last three days has
been awful, however it seems that everyone I am talking to on the streets are
awakening as the spraying is so ad, no one can deny it.
> > > Is it too late?
> > > I guess we will see.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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#30501 From: Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has begun
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What's with all the ranting and raving? I asked a simple question. You get all
hostile and suspicious. What's your problem?
 
Dragon

--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@...> wrote:


From: Gary <g.fleck@...>
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault
has begun
To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 2:43 PM


 



See my replies intermixed in the dialogue below... *** Gary

--- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst ar@...>
wrote:
>
> Fight back. Spray the towers with DA!
> Â
> We have a few chemtrails here, but nothing noteworthy. They come, they
disappear, and in a couple of months they'll try it again.
***
so...

> Â
> I looked at some Texas web cams and did not see any chemtrails. Looked at
downtown L.A., LAX, and Burbank web cams. Mt. Wilson, too. Did not see even one.
> Â
> The Californians complain when I refer to web cam images. :-) Even so, a
'final assault' should be big enough to show up on web cams.
> Â
***
Ah Al, you certainly should understand that artificial devices such as web-cams
are not even close to what the human eyes perceives, even in it's currently
reduced mode of operation... which is the main reason why those on location
often debate your "that's not what I/you see via web-cams in your area"…

> You can't go by what the Tracking forum residents say. They do get excited at
times, exaggerate the problem, and some of them, likewise some on this forum
too, see every white cloud as a chemcloud. Sylphs get mis-identified as
chemclouds.
***
Ok, I agree fully, many folks get excited, and often post , what to them (then)
appears as the truth of what is currently happening, (most often wrong)(but, I
often see you doing exactly the same thing in response to these type folks)…

> Â
> The question in my mind is what happens to the trails after they are laid? And
particularly in your area, Gary.
***They, the chems hang in the sky, merge, cover the sky… I am here , in this
time and space Al, you are in your location… speculating at best, although I
find many of your speculations faulty… and, I must also ask, why are you are
in particular singling my area out, as opposed to any other area, other than to
discredit what I am seeing and reporting…. Hhhhhmmmm… good question…
No one has sprayed in that region, not to my knowledge.
*** and, your knowledge, which is your speculation, I suspect… may be
all-knowing?

The only protection you all have is the charged rain water that was brought to
you by last year's Hurricane Ike. I remotely charged the water in that storm,
and I'm curious to see if the local towers picked it up. If they did, you will
see trails disappear instead of linger.
***which is your knowledge only apparently, please share…
> Â
> Some places, most places in the world, we don't have boots on the ground. It
has to be done remotely. You live in one such place.
***yes, but so far you mostly disrespect what I see and report/and what many
others see and report, so what's your point in even mentioning that?
> Â
> The Californians have done a lot of work in their area. They are as protected
as they're gonna get until someone takes on the task of liberating the rest of
the state.
***I sense that is a thinly veiled shat over my bow… Al, I was beginning to
think you were better than that……..
> Â
> If I was posting there; I'm a member but don't hang out there, I'd be asking
the 'final assault' reporters for photos.
> Â
> Dragon
> Â
>
>
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@... > wrote:
>
>
> From: Gary <g.fleck@... >
> Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtracki ngs-The final assault
has begun
> To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 12:39 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> I don't know if I would go that far Al, but we have recently (for over a week
and a half been pummeled by nearly constant heavy chemtrailing the likes of
which I haven't seen for a long time around here. Even on the few overcast days
here lately, one can see the chems between the clouds. Something's up, I don't
know what, but something has changed around here as far as chemtrailing. Gary
>
> --- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst ar@>
wrote:
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Do you see a 'final assault' type of activity in your area?
> > ÂÂ
> > Dragon
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@ > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Gary <g.fleck@ >
> > Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtracki ngs-The final assault
has begun
> > To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:38 AM
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
> >
> >
> > I know this info is controversial, and will be rebutted, and dismissed...
which is expected, I just wanted to share this with those who perhaps have an
alternate viewpoint of what is coming down from some on this group. I like to
explore both sides of an issue. Gary
> >
> > chemtrailtrackings- The final assault has begun
> > Posted by: "jaspen40" no_reply@yahoogroup s.com jaspen40
> > Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:13 pm (PST)
> >
> > All over the planet, the final assaul has begun. In every forum and every
website everyone is reproting an unprecedented amount of spraying done starting
on Monday and continuing through to this evening.
> > The number of people entering into the emergency rooms are unbelievable.
Everything is being reported from Swine Flu to Heart Attacks and strokes.
> > ARI or Acute Respiraatory Illness is the main sickness as has been reported
throughout the Ukraine and Poland.
> > Has it finally begun? Stay inside as much as possible. Put new air filters
in your purifiers.
> > Get your Super Silvers ready and stock up on food water and ammunition and
keep an eye on the Ukrainse, Britain and many areas in the U.S.
> > I personally have never seen this much activity. The last three days has
been awful, however it seems that everyone I am talking to on the streets are
awakening as the spraying is so ad, no one can deny it.
> > Is it too late?
> > I guess we will see.
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#30500 From: Denny Rechnold <drechnold@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:23 pm
Subject: Southern Ca
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The last week to 10 days here has been frightening -
today we have some natural sky and some natural cloud -
But frankly the assault of late has been one of the worst.
and - people are feeling it.
They just don't know what it is they are feeling.
They all just think they have suddenly gotten some new allergy or a mild cold or
flu -
It doesn't matter who denies it.
It's clear - all of it.




________________________________
From: maggie taylor <maggie.taylor@...>
To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 2:22:27 PM
Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Re: Google launches flu-shot finder


Evodude,

Read this.   Do you still agree with the medical profession?

http://organichealt hadviser. com/archives/ medical-doctors- and-health-
experts-are- speaking- out-about- h1n1-swine- flu-vaccine- dangers

http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2009/ 10/31/CDC-
Says-Kids- That-Die- From-Swine- Flu-Have- Coexisting- Bacterial- Infections.
aspx

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#30499 From: "maggie taylor" <maggie.taylor@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: Google launches flu-shot finder
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#30498 From: "loohon" <dogwood57@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:11 pm
Subject: Re: fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has begun
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This ignoramus obviously doesn't read Cmdr Loohan's blog
http://loohan.com/blog11-9.htm

On the 10th (Tues) i wrote:
(8:35am) ... But everything has cleared off overnight.
(11:30am) Still mostly clear; just a few small real and fake clouds.

Yesterday was moderately chemmy. Today heavy chem.


--- In ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com, "Gary" <g.fleck@...> wrote:
>
> In every forum and every website everyone is reproting an unprecedented amount
of spraying done starting on Monday and continuing through to this evening.

#30497 From: "Gary" <g.fleck@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has begun
jesuschr2001
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See my replies intermixed in the dialogue below... *** Gary

--- In ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
wrote:
>
> Fight back. Spray the towers with DA!
> Â
> We have a few chemtrails here, but nothing noteworthy. They come, they
disappear, and in a couple of months they'll try it again.
***
so...

> Â
> I looked at some Texas web cams and did not see any chemtrails. Looked at
downtown L.A., LAX, and Burbank web cams. Mt. Wilson, too. Did not see even one.
> Â
> The Californians complain when I refer to web cam images. :-) Even so, a
'final assault' should be big enough to show up on web cams.
> Â
***
Ah Al, you certainly should understand that artificial devices such as web-cams
are not even close to what the human eyes perceives, even in it's currently
reduced mode of operation... which is the main reason why those on location
often debate your "that's not what I/you see via web-cams in your area"…

> You can't go by what the Tracking forum residents say. They do get excited at
times, exaggerate the problem, and some of them, likewise some on this forum
too, see every white cloud as a chemcloud. Sylphs get mis-identified as
chemclouds.
***
Ok, I agree fully, many folks get excited, and often post , what to them (then)
appears as the truth of what is currently happening, (most often wrong)(but, I
often see you doing exactly the same thing in response to these type folks)…

> Â
> The question in my mind is what happens to the trails after they are laid? And
particularly in your area, Gary.
***They, the chems hang in the sky, merge, cover the sky… I am here , in this
time and space Al, you are in your location… speculating at best, although I
find many of your speculations faulty… and, I must also ask, why are you are in
particular singling my area out, as opposed to any other area, other than to
discredit what I am seeing and reporting…. Hhhhhmmmm… good question…
No one has sprayed in that region, not to my knowledge.
*** and,  your knowledge, which is your speculation, I suspect… may be
all-knowing?

The only protection you all have is the charged rain water that was brought to
you by last year's Hurricane Ike. I remotely charged the water in that storm,
and I'm curious to see if the local towers picked it up. If they did, you will
see trails disappear instead of linger.
***which is your knowledge only apparently, please share…
> Â
> Some places, most places in the world, we don't have boots on the ground. It
has to be done remotely. You live in one such place.
***yes, but so far you mostly disrespect what I see and report/and what many
others see and report, so what's your point in even mentioning that?
> Â
> The Californians have done a lot of work in their area. They are as protected
as they're gonna get until someone takes on the task of liberating the rest of
the state.
***I sense that is a thinly veiled shat  over my bow… Al, I was beginning to
think you were better than that……..
> Â
> If I was posting there; I'm a member but don't hang out there, I'd be asking
the 'final assault' reporters for photos.
> Â
> Dragon
> Â
>
>
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Gary <g.fleck@...>
> Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault
has begun
> To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 12:39 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> I don't know if I would go that far Al, but we have recently (for over a week
and a half been pummeled by nearly constant heavy chemtrailing the likes of
which I haven't seen for a long time around here. Even on the few overcast days
here lately, one can see the chems between the clouds. Something's up, I don't
know what, but something has changed around here as far as chemtrailing. Gary
>
> --- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst ar@>
wrote:
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Do you see a 'final assault' type of activity in your area?
> > ÂÂ
> > Dragon
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@ > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Gary <g.fleck@ >
> > Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtracki ngs-The final assault
has begun
> > To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:38 AM
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
> >
> >
> > I know this info is controversial, and will be rebutted, and dismissed...
which is expected, I just wanted to share this with those who perhaps have an
alternate viewpoint of what is coming down from some on this group. I like to
explore both sides of an issue. Gary
> >
> > chemtrailtrackings- The final assault has begun
> > Posted by: "jaspen40" no_reply@yahoogroup s.com jaspen40
> > Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:13 pm (PST)
> >
> > All over the planet, the final assaul has begun. In every forum and every
website everyone is reproting an unprecedented amount of spraying done starting
on Monday and continuing through to this evening.
> > The number of people entering into the emergency rooms are unbelievable.
Everything is being reported from Swine Flu to Heart Attacks and strokes.
> > ARI or Acute Respiraatory Illness is the main sickness as has been reported
throughout the Ukraine and Poland.
> > Has it finally begun? Stay inside as much as possible. Put new air filters
in your purifiers.
> > Get your Super Silvers ready and stock up on food water and ammunition and
keep an eye on the Ukrainse, Britain and many areas in the U.S.
> > I personally have never seen this much activity. The last three days has
been awful, however it seems that everyone I am talking to on the streets are
awakening as the spraying is so ad, no one can deny it.
> > Is it too late?
> > I guess we will see.
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#30496 From: "IsabelleL" <ileblanc8@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:05 pm
Subject: Virus warning: A true and false version...
lanello88
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F.Y.I. - there is truth and falsity in this email.  Here is the real skinny
below on it.  And, by the way, Snopes is a lousy source for information
about anything.  Turns out that site is nothing more than a husband and wife
who do not check out ANYTHING!!!  They merely decide what to pass on as true
and what is false - with NO investigation.  Be ware of anything saying it
has been verified by Snopes.  I no longer take ANYTHING for granted.  I go
straight to the source - in this case Urban Legends - one of the best on the
net! ! !

'Mail Server Report' Virus Warning

Netlore Archive

By David Emery, About.com

See More About:

Computer virus warnings

Virus hoaxes

Forwarded emails warn that a potentially destructive Internet virus (or
worm') is propagating via emails sporting the header 'Mail Server Report.'
While the virus does exist, some of the information circulating about it is
inaccurate.

Description: Virus alert

Circulating since: Sep. 2006

Status: True OR false, depending on version


THIS VERSION IS TRUE:

Email example contributed by M. Stutt, Dec. 16, 2006:

Subject: virus warning, please tell your friends

This one checks out and is a bona fide real virus so hence the warning.

Any email with "Mail Server Report" in the subject line is a new virus and
should not be opened. It comes with an attachment in zip format. Apparently
there is a Zip file attached so be very weary of any thing with a zip file
on it.

The message tells you that a worm was detected in an e-mail that you sent
out and asks you to open and install the attachment to fix the problem. Only
  it IS the problem! DO NOT DO IT! Delete the e-mail.

This is a real threat.


THIS VERSION IS FALSE:

Email example contributed by Ronald W., Apr. 1, 2008:

Subject: Fwd: Major Virus Warning

Anyone-using Internet mail such as Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL and so on.

This information arrived this morning, Direct from both Microsoft and Norton
  Please send it to everybody you know who has access to the Internet.

You may receive an apparently harmless e-mail titled 'Mail Server Report'

If you open either file, a message will appear on your screen saying: 'It is
too late now, your life is no longer beautiful.'

Subsequently you will LOSE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC, And the person who sent it
to you will gain access to your name, e-mail and password.

This is a new virus which started to circulate on Saturday afternoon. AOL
has already confirmed the severity, and the anti virus software's are not
capable of destroying it.

The virus has been created by a hacker who calls himself 'life owner'.

PLEASE SEND A COPY OF THIS E-MAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS, And ask them to PASS
IT ON IMMEDIATELY!

THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY SNOPES

Comments: As verified by antivirus experts beginning in September 2006, an
Internet worm dubbed "Stration" (also known as "Warezov") is on the loose
and propagating itself via email messages under a variety of headers
including "Mail Server Report" (other typical headers include "Error," "Good
Day," and "hello").

The infected file, which may arrive bearing a .zip, .scr, or .exe extension,
purports to be an "update for worm elimination," but actually contains the
worm itself. If the file is opened, the worm self-installs on the user's
computer and begins sending copies of itself to addresses found on the host
s hard drive.
********************************************************************************\
********
2008 variant of the 'Mail Server Report' alert is a hoax

A newer version of the warning, in circulation since late March 2008, is
false and consists of text borrowed from the "Life Is Beautiful" virus hoax.
Contrary to what is claimed, the real virus does not cause a message saying
'It is too late now, your life is no longer beautiful" to appear on the
recipient's computer screen. Likewise, the claim that antivirus software is
incapable of destroying this worm is false.

Your best protection: practice safe computing

Confusing? To be sure, but it serves as an excellent reminder that relying
on forwarded email alerts is an ill-advised approach to Net security. As
always, the right way to protect yourself from online viruses and worms --
including the real "Mail Server Report" threat -- is to maintain and
regularly update reliable antivirus software on your computer, and to avoid
opening suspicious or unfamiliar file attachments at all times. For more
tips and tricks on virus threats and safe computing, visit antivirus.about
com.

#30495 From: Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has begun
captaindrago...
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Fight back. Spray the towers with DA!
 
We have a few chemtrails here, but nothing noteworthy. They come, they
disappear, and in a couple of months they'll try it again.
 
I looked at some Texas web cams and did not see any chemtrails. Looked at
downtown L.A., LAX, and Burbank web cams. Mt. Wilson, too. Did not see even one.
 
The Californians complain when I refer to web cam images. :-) Even so, a 'final
assault' should be big enough to show up on web cams.
 
You can't go by what the Tracking forum residents say. They do get excited at
times, exaggerate the problem, and some of them, likewise some on this forum
too, see every white cloud as a chemcloud. Sylphs get mis-identified as
chemclouds.
 
The question in my mind is what happens to the trails after they are laid? And
particularly in your area, Gary. No one has sprayed in that region, not to my
knowledge. The only protection you all have is the charged rain water that was
brought to you by last year's Hurricane Ike. I remotely charged the water in
that storm, and I'm curious to see if the local towers picked it up. If they
did, you will see trails disappear instead of linger.
 
Some places, most places in the world, we don't have boots on the ground. It has
to be done remotely. You live in one such place.
 
The Californians have done a lot of work in their area. They are as protected as
they're gonna get until someone takes on the task of liberating the rest of the
state.
 
If I was posting there; I'm a member but don't hang out there, I'd be asking the
'final assault' reporters for photos.
 
Dragon
 


--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@...> wrote:


From: Gary <g.fleck@...>
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault
has begun
To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 12:39 PM


 



I don't know if I would go that far Al, but we have recently (for over a week
and a half been pummeled by nearly constant heavy chemtrailing the likes of
which I haven't seen for a long time around here. Even on the few overcast days
here lately, one can see the chems between the clouds. Something's up, I don't
know what, but something has changed around here as far as chemtrailing. Gary

--- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst ar@...>
wrote:
>
>  
> Do you see a 'final assault' type of activity in your area?
>  
> Dragon
>
>
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@... > wrote:
>
>
> From: Gary <g.fleck@... >
> Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtracki ngs-The final assault has
begun
> To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:38 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I know this info is controversial, and will be rebutted, and dismissed...
which is expected, I just wanted to share this with those who perhaps have an
alternate viewpoint of what is coming down from some on this group. I like to
explore both sides of an issue. Gary
>
> chemtrailtrackings- The final assault has begun
> Posted by: "jaspen40" no_reply@yahoogroup s.com jaspen40
> Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:13 pm (PST)
>
> All over the planet, the final assaul has begun. In every forum and every
website everyone is reproting an unprecedented amount of spraying done starting
on Monday and continuing through to this evening.
> The number of people entering into the emergency rooms are unbelievable.
Everything is being reported from Swine Flu to Heart Attacks and strokes.
> ARI or Acute Respiraatory Illness is the main sickness as has been reported
throughout the Ukraine and Poland.
> Has it finally begun? Stay inside as much as possible. Put new air filters in
your purifiers.
> Get your Super Silvers ready and stock up on food water and ammunition and
keep an eye on the Ukrainse, Britain and many areas in the U.S.
> I personally have never seen this much activity. The last three days has been
awful, however it seems that everyone I am talking to on the streets are
awakening as the spraying is so ad, no one can deny it.
> Is it too late?
> I guess we will see.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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#30494 From: "Gary" <g.fleck@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:33 pm
Subject: fwd:Breaking: President Obama declares H1N1 flu a national emergency
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Re: Breaking: President Obama declares H1N1 flu a national emergency

CORRECTION:"5,000 to 100,000 units of vitamin D-3"... What I meant was (5,000 to
10,000 units of vitamin D-3) commonly recommended by the system are around 400
units, which is much to low a dosage to be effective, heck, a half hour to an
hour of summer sunlight will stimulate the human skin to produce 30,000 units of
vitamin D-3, and as the dark sides propaganda via mass media has made us scardy
cats who hide from the sun, and slather toxic sunscreen over our bodies when we
are outside, most folks these days are vitamin D deficient which adversely
affects their health more than most people are aware... sunlight is one of our
most important sources of health and well being, and with all the chemtrails
blocking so much of the sun's healthy rays by design, one most certainly needs
to supplement their D supply by other means.... Gary


--- In chemtrails2_BackUp@yahoogroups.com, "Gary" <g.fleck@...> wrote:
>
> My nephew's wife was diagnosed with swine flu a couple of weeks ago and wound
up in the hospital, my nephew also had symptoms, including burning
lungs/difficulty breathing, but was able to fight it off himself. I had been
over to visit them just before she wound up in the hospital, my nephew called a
couple of days later and asked if I had gotten sick, I said, yes, as a matter of
fact, that I had a sudden attack of burning lungs/great difficulty breathing, I
had to get up so I could sit up. After several hours it subsided and I was able
to get some sleep, but the next day it (the burning lungs) returned with a
vengeance but I was able to fight it off, then I still felt like shit for about
a week. I suspect my nephew and I also had swine flu, so some people are getting
it, but apparently it doesn't affect everyone the same. I attribute the fact
that I regularly take 5,000 to 100,000 units of vitamin D-3 a day plus other
vitamins plus other natural supplements to being able to fight it off. Then,
also a person from another group I am on told us that her brother was diagnosed
with swine flu put in the hospital and died 2 days later. So apparently some
people are getting hit much harder than most people by this. Perhaps a different
more virulent strain, perhaps being sprayed by chemtrails, I don't know. I do
know that my area has been being slammed big time by chemtrails again, has been
for some time. And, as the post I just forwarded from another group mentions,
this is the case all across the country, and apparently in other countries too.
Also, the burning lungs thing was different from the repository distress I have
experienced many times over the years from heavy chemtrail spraying. Gary
>
> --- In chemtrails2_BackUp@yahoogroups.com, Elizabeth Otto <godshealingchild@>
wrote:
> >
> > You know what is really strange? I do not know anyone that has the swine flu
now or ever since all of this crap started. People here are dealing with upper
respiratory, sinus and asthma crud from all of the putrid stuff they are
spraying 24/7.
> >
> > Lizzie

#30493 From: "IsabelleL" <ileblanc8@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:12 pm
Subject: Virus warning, read ASAP
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READ IMMEDIATELY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  HI ALL,

  THIS was sent to me by a friend whose son is in charge of the
  computers for the state of Florida -- whenever he receives anything like
  this it is a warning to the State as well as all us little people --

  VERY IMPORTANT , PLEASE READ THIS...

  Anyone-using Internet mail such
  as Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL and so
  on. This information arrived this
  morning, Direct from
  both Microsoft and Norton. Please send it to
  everybody you know who has Access to the
  Internet. You may receive an apparently harmless e-mail
  titled 'Mail Server Report' If you open
  either file, a message will appear on your screen
  saying: 'It is too late now, your life is no longer
  beautiful...'

  Subsequently you will LOSE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC, And the
  person who sent it to you will gain access to
  your Name, e-mail and
  password. This is a new virus which started to
  circulate on Saturday
  afternoon. AOL has already confirmed
  the severity, and the anti virus software's
  are not capable of destroying it..

  The virus has been created by a hacker who calls himself
  'life owner'.

  PLEASE SEND A COPY OF THIS E-MAIL TO ALL YOUR
  FRIENDS, And ask them to PASS IT ON
  IMMEDIATELY!

  THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY SNOPES.

  http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/mailserver.asp

#30492 From: "Gary" <g.fleck@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has begun
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I don't know if I would go that far Al, but we have recently (for over a week
and a half been pummeled by nearly constant heavy chemtrailing the likes of
which I haven't seen for a long time around here. Even on the few overcast days
here lately, one can see the chems between the clouds. Something's up, I don't
know what, but something has changed around here as far as chemtrailing. Gary


--- In ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
wrote:
>
>  
> Do you see a 'final assault' type of activity in your area?
>  
> Dragon
>
>
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Gary <g.fleck@...>
> Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has
begun
> To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:38 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I know this info is controversial, and will be rebutted, and dismissed...
which is expected, I just wanted to share this with those who perhaps have an
alternate viewpoint of what is coming down from some on this group. I like to
explore both sides of an issue. Gary
>
> chemtrailtrackings- The final assault has begun
> Posted by: "jaspen40" no_reply@yahoogroup s.com jaspen40
> Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:13 pm (PST)
>
> All over the planet, the final assaul has begun. In every forum and every
website everyone is reproting an unprecedented amount of spraying done starting
on Monday and continuing through to this evening.
> The number of people entering into the emergency rooms are unbelievable.
Everything is being reported from Swine Flu to Heart Attacks and strokes.
> ARI or Acute Respiraatory Illness is the main sickness as has been reported
throughout the Ukraine and Poland.
> Has it finally begun? Stay inside as much as possible. Put new air filters in
your purifiers.
> Get your Super Silvers ready and stock up on food water and ammunition and
keep an eye on the Ukrainse, Britain and many areas in the U.S.
> I personally have never seen this much activity. The last three days has been
awful, however it seems that everyone I am talking to on the streets are
awakening as the spraying is so ad, no one can deny it.
> Is it too late?
> I guess we will see.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#30491 From: rick_n_la
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has begun
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I'm not sure "final assault" is the right phrase for what
we're seeing in Los Angeles, but definitely a big step
up in operations, which by the way has been a typical
pattern for this time of year.

Rick

--- In ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
wrote:
>
>  
> Do you see a 'final assault' type of activity in your area?
>  
> Dragon
>
>
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Gary <g.fleck@...>
> Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has
begun
> To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:38 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I know this info is controversial, and will be rebutted, and dismissed...
which is expected, I just wanted to share this with those who perhaps have an
alternate viewpoint of what is coming down from some on this group. I like to
explore both sides of an issue. Gary
>
> chemtrailtrackings- The final assault has begun
> Posted by: "jaspen40" no_reply@yahoogroup s.com jaspen40
> Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:13 pm (PST)
>
> All over the planet, the final assaul has begun. In every forum and every
website everyone is reproting an unprecedented amount of spraying done starting
on Monday and continuing through to this evening.
> The number of people entering into the emergency rooms are unbelievable.
Everything is being reported from Swine Flu to Heart Attacks and strokes.
> ARI or Acute Respiraatory Illness is the main sickness as has been reported
throughout the Ukraine and Poland.
> Has it finally begun? Stay inside as much as possible. Put new air filters in
your purifiers.
> Get your Super Silvers ready and stock up on food water and ammunition and
keep an eye on the Ukrainse, Britain and many areas in the U.S.
> I personally have never seen this much activity. The last three days has been
awful, however it seems that everyone I am talking to on the streets are
awakening as the spraying is so ad, no one can deny it.
> Is it too late?
> I guess we will see.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>

#30490 From: Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has begun
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Do you see a 'final assault' type of activity in your area?
 
Dragon


--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Gary <g.fleck@...> wrote:


From: Gary <g.fleck@...>
Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has
begun
To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:38 AM


 



I know this info is controversial, and will be rebutted, and dismissed... which
is expected, I just wanted to share this with those who perhaps have an
alternate viewpoint of what is coming down from some on this group. I like to
explore both sides of an issue. Gary

chemtrailtrackings- The final assault has begun
Posted by: "jaspen40" no_reply@yahoogroup s.com jaspen40
Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:13 pm (PST)

All over the planet, the final assaul has begun. In every forum and every
website everyone is reproting an unprecedented amount of spraying done starting
on Monday and continuing through to this evening.
The number of people entering into the emergency rooms are unbelievable.
Everything is being reported from Swine Flu to Heart Attacks and strokes.
ARI or Acute Respiraatory Illness is the main sickness as has been reported
throughout the Ukraine and Poland.
Has it finally begun? Stay inside as much as possible. Put new air filters in
your purifiers.
Get your Super Silvers ready and stock up on food water and ammunition and keep
an eye on the Ukrainse, Britain and many areas in the U.S.
I personally have never seen this much activity. The last three days has been
awful, however it seems that everyone I am talking to on the streets are
awakening as the spraying is so ad, no one can deny it.
Is it too late?
I guess we will see.











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#30489 From: "Gary" <g.fleck@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:59 pm
Subject: Bringing Buddy Home
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#30488 From: "Gary" <g.fleck@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:38 pm
Subject: fwd:chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has begun
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I know this info is controversial, and will be rebutted, and dismissed... which
is expected, I just wanted to share this with those who perhaps have an
alternate viewpoint of what is coming down from some on this group. I like to
explore both sides of an issue. Gary

chemtrailtrackings-The final assault has begun
Posted by: "jaspen40" no_reply@yahoogroups.com   jaspen40
Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:13 pm (PST)


All over the planet, the final assaul has begun. In every forum and every
website everyone is reproting an unprecedented amount of spraying done starting
on Monday and continuing through to this evening.
The number of people entering into the emergency rooms are unbelievable.
Everything is being reported from Swine Flu to Heart Attacks and strokes.
ARI or Acute Respiraatory Illness is the main sickness as has been reported
throughout the Ukraine and Poland.
Has it finally begun? Stay inside as much as possible. Put new air filters in
your purifiers.
Get your Super Silvers ready and stock up on food water and ammunition and keep
an eye on the Ukrainse, Britain and many areas in the U.S.
I personally have never seen this much activity. The last three days has been
awful, however it seems that everyone I am talking to on the streets are
awakening as the spraying is so ad, no one can deny it.
Is it too late?
I guess we will see.

#30487 From: MaryK Croft <marykcroft@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:48 pm
Subject: RE: [Rick's Gardening Tips] What do you think?
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What I find interesting is the pink line straight down from the sun. We've seen
this here occasionally in digital photos and vids.



That grouping of planes is in airshow formation and somebody's show-off trail
switch is stuck "On" is what that looks like to me.  --MaryK

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To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
From: angeliqueangel83@...
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:16:39 +0000
Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] What do you think?





Hello guys.

Just dropping by to share ... its probably nothing.
But it freaked me out a bit. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVWJDcorbcE

Hope everyone is doing good!

See you all around!

~Angie
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#30486 From: "angeliqueangel83" <angeliqueangel83@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:16 am
Subject: What do you think?
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Hello guys.

Just dropping by to share ... its probably nothing.
But it freaked me out a bit. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVWJDcorbcE


Hope everyone is doing good!

See you all around!

~Angie
angeliqueangel83@...

#30485 From: virginia hawke <ginnicus1@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:54 am
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] N.CAL: Vets Helping Vets...
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Yes, I thought so, too.
 
For such a small town (approx. 17,000) with such a diverse population, it
really does look after those less fortunate.  There is a very large,
attractive & quite new Community Dining facility called "Plowshares".  Anyone
is invited to dine there (free) for lunch and dinner, but it is primarily for
the homeless and others who cannot afford food. Last summer, they put in an
organic garden (surrounded by a high, chain-link fence, of course) to supplement
their food supply, which is contributed by local Supermarkets, Mom'n'Pop stores
and some of the Orchard owners in the vicinity.  We have 2 homeless shelters,
many "drives" to collect clothing/blankets, etc. for the poor.  Those same
contributors donate to the local Food Bank and to the Sr. Center.
 
We also have a well-known Bakery here in town by the name of Schat's, which has
been around for ages.  Schat's sent some folks over to the County Jail and
taught the cooks how to make good bread, so the inmates now get decent bread
instead of cheap, junko stuff.  You can probably imagine what most jail food is
like.
 
It's a community with a conscience, which is more than alot of places can boast.
 
Ginny
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...> wrote:


From: Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] N.CAL: Vets Helping Vets...
To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:14 PM


 



What a wonderful idea!
 
Dragon

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, ginnicus1 <ginnicus1@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: ginnicus1 <ginnicus1@yahoo. com>
Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] N.CAL: Vets Helping Vets...
To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 9:06 PM

 

This is what my community is like, aside from being a Marijuana breeding ground.
LOL! Even those who have been incarcerated are honored, if they are Vets. There
is still compassion and honor for those who have served in the Military.

http://www.ukiahdai lyjournal. com/ci_13761161

Ginny in Ukiah, CA (Mendocino County)

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#30484 From: Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:14 am
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] N.CAL: Vets Helping Vets...
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What a wonderful idea!
 
Dragon


--- On Wed, 11/11/09, ginnicus1 <ginnicus1@...> wrote:


From: ginnicus1 <ginnicus1@...>
Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] N.CAL: Vets Helping Vets...
To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 9:06 PM


 



This is what my community is like, aside from being a Marijuana breeding ground.
LOL! Even those who have been incarcerated are honored, if they are Vets. There
is still compassion and honor for those who have served in the Military.

http://www.ukiahdai lyjournal. com/ci_13761161

Ginny in Ukiah, CA (Mendocino County)











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#30483 From: "ginnicus1" <ginnicus1@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:06 am
Subject: N.CAL: Vets Helping Vets...
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This is what my community is like, aside from being a Marijuana breeding ground.
LOL!  Even those who have been incarcerated are honored, if they are Vets. 
There is still compassion and honor for those who have served in the Military.

http://www.ukiahdailyjournal.com/ci_13761161

Ginny in Ukiah, CA (Mendocino County)

#30482 From: Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:33 am
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
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--- On Wed, 11/11/09, pictoblu <pictoblu@...> wrote:
 
>>Truth is stranger than fiction.
 
That's because fiction has to make sense!
 
Dragon 


From: pictoblu <pictoblu@...>
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 7:59 PM


 





...Back in the 70s the doctors in California went on strike. The death rate went
down.
------------ --------- -----

Al is right. As a matter of fact, I have met a doctor who had been working in a
clinic in this area. Well, he said one day the SWAT team came in and emptied out
the clinic. I asked him what the heck was that about. He said they had cured too
much cancer and so the medical establishment had them shut down.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

Regards, Blades











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#30481 From: "pictoblu" <pictoblu@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:59 am
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
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...Back in the 70s the doctors in California went on strike. The death rate went
down.
--------------------------

Al is right.  As a matter of fact, I have met a doctor who had been working in a
clinic in this area. Well, he said one day the SWAT team came in and emptied out
the clinic. I asked him what the heck was that about. He said they had cured too
much cancer and so the medical establishment had them shut down.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

Regards, Blades

#30480 From: Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:49 am
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
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--- On Wed, 11/11/09, evodude2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
>>Think back to our parents' generation, and the horrors of polio...
 
That was then, Evo. This is now. The glory days of vaccination are over. They
are still living on the reputation gained from polio days, etc. The reputation
may have been manufactured by the media. There was no really free press to speak
of back then.
 
The horrors of vaccination are well known. I will not speak of them with you.
You are not receptive to information outside of the Establishment approved
reality.
 
>> doctors leave aeronautics to me, so it seems only fair I leave medicine to
them.
 
I hope the aeronautical world is in better hands with you there than the medical
world is with the doctors. Back in the 70s the doctors in California went on
strike. The death rate went down.
 
Now I hear, don't recall from where, that the AMA has officially announced an
increase in accurate diagnoses. It's up to 6% now, from the previous 5%.
 
You just kinda skated around the "you people" question. That's o.k. In your
case, addressing us as "you people" is right and proper, for we are separate,
this group and you.
 
You are not one of us. You did not come here to learn. You did not come here to
participate. You have nothing to teach. So, the question is, 'why are you here'?
 
If you are a plant or a spy, then whoever sent you is not getting value for
their money. If you are, then pass along to your handler that Dragon jeers them
in their incompetence for sending an un-qualified plant.
 
I don't really think you are, though it would be helpful, I suppose, if you
were. If you are a plant or a spy, then as such you are a non-problem and a
delight to engage in word play. If you were a spy, then as long as you held that
position here they would not be tempted to send in a more capable one. See my
thinking on this?
 
The other side has about run out of budget or warm bodies to do that kind of
work. The best ever was Don Bradley. Rest of them had to vie for place after
him. And really, the most effective destructive agents I've seen since Don
Bradley were the self-motivated ones that destroyed the old Cloudbuster forum.
The Agency could not have trained better ones.
 
This outfit might still be considered a worthy target by them. It's the only
group to my knowledge that has members who get anything done.
 
"Why are you here?" is a question only of idle interest and for the record when
we write the history.
 
Dragon



From: evodude2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 6:19 PM


 



As I believe I have indicated before, I think there's nothing wrong with
vaccination. I'm sure the hundreds of people who have been killed by H1N1 wished
in their final days that they'd been vaccinated.

Think back to our parents' generation, and the horrors of polio. (Which
afflicted at least one of your presidents.) Think back a hundred years or so -
or a lot less, depending on where you live - and consider that killer of
millions, smallpox.

Leprosy has been defeated by vaccination, too. There's nothing inherently wrong
with medical research, with needles, or with pharmaceuticals. You rely on a
prayer to Xenu and a bit of yogic flying if you want to; but doctors leave
aeronautics to me, so it seems only fair I leave medicine to them.

The only reason I haven't had a flu shot yet is because I haven't been offered
one. I'm not about to jump the queue when there's vulnerable people who haven't
had it yet, like kids and old folks. (Senior moment my arse; I'm not that old!
Not yet.) But /you people/ who want to believe that the big bad government
(which?) is trying to control your mind via an injection... go ahead and believe
that. It's a free country. Of course, you might put your friends, family and
neighbours at increased risk... but you're free to do so.

When you see people being injected at gunpoint... put the facts up on wikileaks
and I'll be the first to apologise.

On your final point, a think that a 'plant' in this group would have very thin
pickings. I don't think there's anything being planned here that's going to cost
Gordon Brown any sleep, and resources are limited, so I reckon the chances any
of us is a 'spook' are slim to none. I suppose the 'underground freedom fighter'
version is more interesting, but in the real world... not going to happen.

--- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst ar@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, evodude2001 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
>  
> >>.... you people....
>  
> Interesting choice of words, addressing the group as "you people".
>  
> Freudian slip? Senior moment? The appellation by its very nature sets the
writer apart from the group he is addressing his remarks to.
>  
> A visiting speaker on a campus might address the gathered crowd in such
manner.
>  
> A policeman might speak to a crowd of demonstrators in that way.
>  
> Back in the turbulent days of the 60s, I was a member of a group who
disagreed with government policy and we made our thoughts public. There was
among us one who always referred to the group in just such a fashion, speaking
as if he was among us but not part of us. It aroused my suspicions and we later
confirmed that the man was a plant, an informant.
>  
> Not to say that you are such a person. But by way of illustrating how the use
of the third person plural "you people" sets you apart from the group.
>  
> Interesting, I say.
>  
> Dragon
>
>
>
> From: evodude2001 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
> To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 9:34 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I know you people are highly suspicious about vaccination (against H1N1,
anyway) but it's in the IT news today that Google (slogan: "don't be evil") have
introduced a service at google.com/flushot that hooks people up with a growing
directory of clinics. Currently, this only works in the USA, although last month
Google expanded a tool they made to track the spread of flu to include 16 more
countries (incl. Japan, Russia, most of the EU).
>
> The flu tracking tool is an interesting approach: monitor what people are
searching for, and you can assess the spread of the disease. Just how accurate
that is in terms of epidemiology, I guess time will tell. (Google.ORG/ flutrends
for more info on that one, and a chance to see who many diseased people you're
likely to encounter in your neighbourhood. )
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#30479 From: "William" <wbragg37@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:48 am
Subject: Re: HAARP study
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--- In ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com, evodude2001 <no_reply@...> wrote:

"If I've been rather quiet lately,"

Sorry, didn't notice.

Bill

#30478 From: MaryK Croft <marykcroft@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:41 am
Subject: Quote of the Day
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I put i some volunteer time today at the Veterans' Vigil, just as I did last
year.  I honor respect those who serve and give them my thanks.  To me, this is
not contradictory with my Quote of the Day:



“A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense
than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death.” – Martin
Luther King Jr.



--MaryK

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#30477 From: virginia hawke <ginnicus1@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:25 am
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
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We are living in the 21st Century, Evodude....about time to join Reality, don't
ya think?
 
Our governments, in many nations, no longer are trying to "protect" their
populations...they are trying to down-size them....by about 2/3rds.
 
There is a term some people (aka "you people") often use....it goes like this: 
"sheeple people", i.e. those who follow the status quo blindly & without
thought.
 
Ginny
 
 
 
 
 


--- On Wed, 11/11/09, evodude2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


From: evodude2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 4:19 PM


 



As I believe I have indicated before, I think there's nothing wrong with
vaccination. I'm sure the hundreds of people who have been killed by H1N1 wished
in their final days that they'd been vaccinated.

Think back to our parents' generation, and the horrors of polio. (Which
afflicted at least one of your presidents.) Think back a hundred years or so -
or a lot less, depending on where you live - and consider that killer of
millions, smallpox.

Leprosy has been defeated by vaccination, too. There's nothing inherently wrong
with medical research, with needles, or with pharmaceuticals. You rely on a
prayer to Xenu and a bit of yogic flying if you want to; but doctors leave
aeronautics to me, so it seems only fair I leave medicine to them.

The only reason I haven't had a flu shot yet is because I haven't been offered
one. I'm not about to jump the queue when there's vulnerable people who haven't
had it yet, like kids and old folks. (Senior moment my arse; I'm not that old!
Not yet.) But /you people/ who want to believe that the big bad government
(which?) is trying to control your mind via an injection... go ahead and believe
that. It's a free country. Of course, you might put your friends, family and
neighbours at increased risk... but you're free to do so.

When you see people being injected at gunpoint... put the facts up on wikileaks
and I'll be the first to apologise.

On your final point, a think that a 'plant' in this group would have very thin
pickings. I don't think there's anything being planned here that's going to cost
Gordon Brown any sleep, and resources are limited, so I reckon the chances any
of us is a 'spook' are slim to none. I suppose the 'underground freedom fighter'
version is more interesting, but in the real world... not going to happen.

--- In ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarst ar@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, evodude2001 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
>  
> >>.... you people....
>  
> Interesting choice of words, addressing the group as "you people".
>  
> Freudian slip? Senior moment? The appellation by its very nature sets the
writer apart from the group he is addressing his remarks to.
>  
> A visiting speaker on a campus might address the gathered crowd in such
manner.
>  
> A policeman might speak to a crowd of demonstrators in that way.
>  
> Back in the turbulent days of the 60s, I was a member of a group who
disagreed with government policy and we made our thoughts public. There was
among us one who always referred to the group in just such a fashion, speaking
as if he was among us but not part of us. It aroused my suspicions and we later
confirmed that the man was a plant, an informant.
>  
> Not to say that you are such a person. But by way of illustrating how the use
of the third person plural "you people" sets you apart from the group.
>  
> Interesting, I say.
>  
> Dragon
>
>
>
> From: evodude2001 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
> To: ricksgardeningtips@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 9:34 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I know you people are highly suspicious about vaccination (against H1N1,
anyway) but it's in the IT news today that Google (slogan: "don't be evil") have
introduced a service at google.com/flushot that hooks people up with a growing
directory of clinics. Currently, this only works in the USA, although last month
Google expanded a tool they made to track the spread of flu to include 16 more
countries (incl. Japan, Russia, most of the EU).
>
> The flu tracking tool is an interesting approach: monitor what people are
searching for, and you can assess the spread of the disease. Just how accurate
that is in terms of epidemiology, I guess time will tell. (Google.ORG/ flutrends
for more info on that one, and a chance to see who many diseased people you're
likely to encounter in your neighbourhood. )
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>











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#30476 From: evodude2001
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:19 am
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
evodude2001
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As I believe I have indicated before, I think there's nothing wrong with
vaccination. I'm sure the hundreds of people who have been killed by H1N1 wished
in their final days that they'd been vaccinated.

Think back to our parents' generation, and the horrors of polio. (Which
afflicted at least one of your presidents.) Think back a hundred years or so -
or a lot less, depending on where you live - and consider that killer of
millions, smallpox.

Leprosy has been defeated by vaccination, too. There's nothing inherently wrong
with medical research, with needles, or with pharmaceuticals. You rely on a
prayer to Xenu and a bit of yogic flying if you want to; but doctors leave
aeronautics to me, so it seems only fair I leave medicine to them.

The only reason I haven't had a flu shot yet is because I haven't been offered
one. I'm not about to jump the queue when there's vulnerable people who haven't
had it yet, like kids and old folks. (Senior moment my arse; I'm not that old!
Not yet.) But /you people/ who want to believe that the big bad government
(which?) is trying to control your mind via an injection... go ahead and believe
that. It's a free country. Of course, you might put your friends, family and
neighbours at increased risk... but you're free to do so.

When you see people being injected at gunpoint... put the facts up on wikileaks
and I'll be the first to apologise.

On your final point, a think that a 'plant' in this group would have very thin
pickings. I don't think there's anything being planned here that's going to cost
Gordon Brown any sleep, and resources are limited, so I reckon the chances any
of us is a 'spook' are slim to none. I suppose the 'underground freedom fighter'
version is more interesting, but in the real world... not going to happen.



--- In ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com, Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, evodude2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>  
> >>.... you people....
>  
> Interesting choice of words, addressing the group as "you people".
>  
> Freudian slip? Senior moment? The appellation by its very nature sets the
writer apart from the group he is addressing his remarks to.
>  
> A visiting speaker on a campus might address the gathered crowd in such
manner.
>  
> A policeman might speak to a crowd of demonstrators in that way.
>  
> Back in the turbulent days of the 60s, I was a member of a group who
disagreed with government policy and we made our thoughts public. There was
among us one who always referred to the group in just such a fashion, speaking
as if he was among us but not part of us. It aroused my suspicions and we later
confirmed that the man was a plant, an informant.
>  
> Not to say that you are such a person. But by way of illustrating how the use
of the third person plural "you people" sets you apart from the group.
>  
> Interesting, I say.
>  
> Dragon
>
>
>
> From: evodude2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
> To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 9:34 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I know you people are highly suspicious about vaccination (against H1N1,
anyway) but it's in the IT news today that Google (slogan: "don't be evil") have
introduced a service at google.com/flushot that hooks people up with a growing
directory of clinics. Currently, this only works in the USA, although last month
Google expanded a tool they made to track the spread of flu to include 16 more
countries (incl. Japan, Russia, most of the EU).
>
> The flu tracking tool is an interesting approach: monitor what people are
searching for, and you can assess the spread of the disease. Just how accurate
that is in terms of epidemiology, I guess time will tell. (Google.ORG/ flutrends
for more info on that one, and a chance to see who many diseased people you're
likely to encounter in your neighbourhood. )
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#30475 From: Al Gray <captaindragonfarstar@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
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--- On Wed, 11/11/09, evodude2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
>>.... you people....
 
Interesting choice of words, addressing the group as "you people".
 
Freudian slip? Senior moment? The appellation by its very nature sets the writer
apart from the group he is addressing his remarks to.
 
A visiting speaker on a campus might address the gathered crowd in such manner.
 
A policeman might speak to a crowd of demonstrators in that way.
 
Back in the turbulent days of the 60s, I was a member of a group who disagreed
with government policy and we made our thoughts public. There was among us one
who always referred to the group in just such a fashion, speaking as if he was
among us but not part of us. It aroused my suspicions and we later confirmed
that the man was a plant, an informant.
 
Not to say that you are such a person. But by way of illustrating how the use of
the third person plural "you people" sets you apart from the group.
 
Interesting, I say.
 
Dragon



From: evodude2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Rick's Gardening Tips] Google launches flu-shot finder
To: ricksgardeningtips@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 9:34 AM


 



I know you people are highly suspicious about vaccination (against H1N1, anyway)
but it's in the IT news today that Google (slogan: "don't be evil") have
introduced a service at google.com/flushot that hooks people up with a growing
directory of clinics. Currently, this only works in the USA, although last month
Google expanded a tool they made to track the spread of flu to include 16 more
countries (incl. Japan, Russia, most of the EU).

The flu tracking tool is an interesting approach: monitor what people are
searching for, and you can assess the spread of the disease. Just how accurate
that is in terms of epidemiology, I guess time will tell. (Google.ORG/ flutrends
for more info on that one, and a chance to see who many diseased people you're
likely to encounter in your neighbourhood. )











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