meus 2 centavos:

Sou europeu e ja teve na india varias vezes. Meu comentario sobre o
assunto:

1) A "elite" de programadores na india ganhe U$ 750 a 850 por mes. Aqui
no Brasil com atual cotacao do dollar o mesmo ganharia algo entre US$
2000 e 2500, porem, Brasil perde no preco.

2) Apesar que India conta com 36 linguagens nativos (nao dialetos mas
linguagens mesmo), a linguagem oficial do pais e Ingles. Em geral o
brasileiro fala mais ingles do que 10 anos atras, mas ainda existe um
buraco, especialmente no nivel technico, o que nao tem com India.

3) Falta de interesse do governo. O governo da India achou um brecho no
mercado uns 15 anos atras, outsourcing de servicos e investiu nisso. E
muito mais barato criar "fabrica de software" do que "montadora de
automoveis". Ha anos o foco do governo brasileiro e em "industria" e nao
"servicos". A india percebeu que a posicao geografico dela faz com que o
transporte de produtos industrializados fica muito caro. Transporte de
dados via internet/telefone e muito mais barato. A india por exemplo tem
acordos com todas as editorias de livros tecnicos. Um livro tecnico da
OReilly por exemplo nao custa mais do que U$ 7.00 (em ingles e claro).

4) A educacao (@victor hogeman) aqui no brasil e muito precario. Nao
concordo muito com o termo "universidade de caca niquel", mas na india o
padrao de faculdade e melhor e os melhores nao sao estupidamente caro
como aqui no brasil. (A India conta com uma distribuicao de renda bem
melhor que aqui, apesar o salario medio ser quase igual). @luiz: Pode
ser que a MEC gasta 8.7 Bi em educacao, mas este dinheiro chega nas
faculdades? ou ela sai pelo valerio duto?

5) Na India em mais empresas certificado CMM(i)5 do que nos estados
unidos (28 dos 42 no mundo!).

"Leading role of the government. Ever since the 1980s, the Software
Development Bureau of the Ministry of Communications and Information
Technology on Department of Technology India has appropriated a sum of
special fund every year for developing international markets. The Indian
government formulated the "Indian IT Action Plan" in May 1995. The
government has taken a series of measures to promote the export of
software, such as zero customs duty, zero circulation tax and zero
services tax for software, package agreement for overseas investment and
procurement, preferential loans from banks, venture capital investment,
etc.
Establishment of numerous software parks. The Indian government has set
up scores of software parks domestically, with 4-5 in Karnataka alone.
The Bangalore Software Park is the largest and most famous one in
Karnataka, which also enjoys a worldwide fame and can be taken as the
"Silicon Valley in India", so to speak. Figure 4 shows the export
statistics of Bangalore Software Park. It can be seen from the figure
that Bangalore Software Park has enjoyed a rapid growth in the output of
software products since the 1997-1998 fiscal year, with the 2000-2001
fiscal year reporting the most rapid growth, up 73% over the preceding
year.
To train and attract talents is the foundation for development. By
31March, 2001, the software industry in India employed 340,000
professionals, with an increase of 180,000 in nearly three years. There
will be a demand of 2.2 million software professionals and 1.6 million
hardware professionals by 2008. Moreover, there is a drastic increase in
the demand of Indian IT professionals in overseas human resource
markets. Facing such situation, the Department of Information and
Technology India is formulating a talent training plan by the name of
"Knowledge Action" to satisfy the increasing demand both at home and
abroad. First, it is planned to promote 43 regional engineering
academies nationwide to the same level as Indian Academy of Science and
Technology. Second, establish Indian IT Academy at all states in India.
Third, vigorously encourage private schools and academies. Fourth,
yigorously encourage famous software industrial companies to run schools
and academies. The Department of Electronics of India has set out to
establish 3 software parks respectively in Bangalore, Bhubaneswar and
Poona since 1987. Now Bangalore has become the software capital of India
and is known as one of then ten silicon valleys in the world. India has
established 17 software parks successively and more than 1300 foreign
companies have registered at these parks."

"Emphasis on execution of international standards. In order to boost
international competitiveness of software products, the software
industry of India has attached great importance to improving product
quality. Currently the software products from 120 Indian software
producers have obtained the ISO9000 certification, and among the 41
companies of cmm5 grade for software development, the global top quality
evaluation standard has 28 in India."

(http://www.ecdc.net.cn/newindex/chinese/page/sitemap/reports/IT_report/english/05/01.htm)

>>> j2ee_rio@... 29/01/2006 21:16 >>>

Essa semana eu li uma reportagem interessante no Financial Times e
gostaria de saber a opinião de vocês. O assunto não é diretamente Java,
mas nos interessa diretamente já que se trata do offshoring de serviços
(principalmente de desenvolvimento de software) pelos EUA.
Além da reportagem ser muito boa ela tocou (indiretamente) num assunto
que eu penso muito a respeito: "Porque o Brasil tem papel tão pequeno no
mercado de offshoring?" Ao lerem a reportagem, verão que, como é de
praxe, offshoring é sinônimo de China e Índia. Entretanto ela cita
(muito de passagem) o exemplo de uma empresa americana no Brasil e dá
(talvez mesmo sem perceber) bons argumentos de porquê o Brasil seria uma
opção melhor que estes países.
A minha pergunta é por quê temos participação tão pequena? Falta de
qualidade dos desenvolvedores não é. É falta de interesse das empresas?
Falta de suporte do governo? Como poderíamos mudar esse quadro? Existe
algo que um JUG possa fazer nesse sentido? Eu acho que o Brasil só tem a
se beneficiar na venda de serviços para os EUA e a Europa.
A reportagem segue abaixo. Se houver interesse na discussão eu gostaria
de ouvir as opiniões do pessoal.
Grato,
Hernan MattosOffshoring: Relentlessly jumping up the skills chain
By David Wighton in New York
Published: January 24 2006 17:55 | Last updated: January 24 2006 17:55
In the space of a few days last month, three of the biggest companies
in the US - JPMorgan Chase, Intel and Microsoft - announced plans to
create a total of more than 7,500 jobs in high-value areas such as
research and development, and processing complex derivatives trades.

But for those worried about sluggish job creation by the US economy
there was a snag. The jobs would all be in India. Worse, they would be
jobs that in the past would have been in the US.
The announcements highlighted both the rapid growth and the changing
pattern of "offshoring". What started with manufacturing jobs and moved
to call-centre staff has spread to highly skilled white-collar posts.
For some big US companies, what began as an interesting experiment has
become a core strategy. Under JPMorgan's plans, 20 per cent of the
global workforce of its investment bank will be in India by the end of
next year.
"The speed of this transformation is what's so daunting," said Stephen
Roach, Morgan Stanley's chief economist in a recent research note.
Critics argue that companies moving aggressively offshore are storing
up trouble for themselves and their home economies. Some claim that the
problems encountered by a few early attempts show that the benefits have
been overstated and predict that the fad will soon peak.
But, judging by the public and private plans of many large US
companies, this is wishful thinking. Most mainstream observers believe
the trend will benefit more people than it hurts on both sides.
According to the McKinsey Global Institute, the number of offshore
service workers will jump from the current 1.5m to 4.1m by 2008. US and
UK companies have led the way - accounting for more than three-quarters
of offshore staff - with continental Europe tending to be more cautious,
not least because of domestic political pressures. But, in spite of a
recent survey showing that French companies are increasingly sceptical
about the benefits of offshoring, McKinsey expects non US and UK
companies to account for more than half of offshore staff by 2008.
Several US states have passed laws restricting offshoring of state
contracts, with more expected. "At the state level, these efforts will
continue," says Stuart Anderson, director of the National Foundation for
American Policy.
At the moment, these moves are little more than symbolic but they show
the effectiveness of lobbying by labour and other groups.
Campaigners claim heavyweight backing from Paul Samuelson, the Nobel
prize-winning economist, who wrote a paper in 2004 explaining that, in
certain circumstances, free trade could leave rich countries worse off.
As a matter of empirical fact, this is unlikely to be the case, say
many other economists such as Columbia University's Jagdish Bhagwati.
But Mr Roach says the facts are all too plain. The low job growth and
stagnant wages generated by the US economy in recent years are the
result of what he calls "powerful cross-border labour arbitrage". This
is putting "extraordinary pressure" on the incomes of one of the global
economy's main engines, the American consumer. "The internet is living
up to its reputation of being the most disruptive technology in the
history of the world."
According to Diana Farrell, director of the McKinsey Global Institute,
such fears are overblown. She says far fewer jobs can be performed
remotely than is assumed. In part, this is because one-third of US
workers are employed by companies with fewer than 100 employees - too
small to justify offshoring. "Even larger companies find offshoring is
more complex than they expect," says Ms Farrell in a recent report.
As a result she concludes that no more than "several hundred thousand
jobs per year will be lost to offshoring". Because this is small
relative to the US labour force, the impact of offshoring on wage levels
"will also be negligible".
This, of course, is little consolation for those who lose their jobs.
As Thomas Friedman points out in The World is Flat: "When you lose your
job, the unemployment rate is not 5.2 per cent; it's 100 per cent."
But rather than fight to preserve existing jobs, some labour unions are
trying to look forward. In August, Computer Sciences Corporation, one of
the world's largest IT services providers, agreed with Amicus, a UK
union, to plough back some of its savings from moving tasks offshore
into retraining those whose jobs are threatened. Other such deals have
been reached with UK financial services companies including Barclays and
Lloyds TSB.
Some opponents of offshoring hope companies will be deterred by the
failures. Certainly there have been disappointments - particularly in
customer services - although often these have been to do with
outsourcing (contracting out services to a third party) rather than to
offshoring.
But many large companies are delighted with the results. For JPMorgan,
the attractions of India are not just costs - which industry analysts
estimate at about 40 per cent below US levels - but also the calibre of
staff being produced by Indian universities. "The quality of the people
we hire is extraordinary and their level of loyalty to the company
unbeatable," says Veronique Weill, head of operations at JPMorgan's
investment bank.
To avoid being too concentrated in one country, JPMorgan is already
looking at other potential offshoring locations mainly in eastern
Europe, but also China and the Philippines.
For European-based companies, eastern Europe has the advantage of
proximity as does Latin America for the US. Both regions are starting to
see strong growth in so-called "near-shoring" jobs.
Sakonnet Technology, a New York company that builds energy trading
software, opened a development centre in Rio de Janeiro a year ago where
it now has one-third of its staff. Thurstan Bannister, chief executive,
says Rio has a deep pool of software engineering talent. "And the time
zone allows our people there to talk through the day to colleagues in
New York and London."
Yet the biggest beneficiaries of offshoring investment from foreign
companies are not Latin America, China or even India. They are the US
and the UK. McKinsey's Ms Farrell says that rather than trying to
prevent jobs moving offshore, US lawmakers should concentrate on
improving the attractiveness of the US to inward investors by tackling
weak telecommunications infrastructure and rising health costs.
"US policymakers cannot avoid addressing both of these issues if the
country is to continue being a magnet for foreign investment."
David Wighton is the FT's New York Bureau Chief

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Pessoal, aconteceu algo estranho com meu eclipse. Eu resolvi reinstalar o eclipse e baixei o projeto que eu trabalhava pelo CVS.

 

Agora não consigo encontrar o diretório de deploy do meu projeto. Antes ficava no diretório .deployables, bastava eu copiar esse dir para o servidor, porém agora não consigo achar. Alguém sabe onde eu posso encontra-lo?

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Pessoal,

Alguem pode indicar algum material para aprender tanto a construção de
EJB's quanto o deploy?

OBS: Sem uso de ant etc... na munheca mesmo... para ver como funciona
o assunto...

Grato,
dgregory.

Procura no eMule pelo ebook "Mastering EJB2".

Agora, construir EJB na mão mesmo, só se for para aprender. De qualquer forma, na prática, toda IDE de qualidade que se propõe a trabalhar com J2EE possui algum wizard para criação de EJBs. Normalmente, dá até para visualizar como funciona a estrutura de classes necessárias para construção do EJB, a geração do JAR, o deployment descriptor, etc.

[]'s

Andrei

"mr.gregory" <danygregory@...> escreveu:

Pessoal,

Alguem pode indicar algum material para aprender tanto a construção de
EJB's quanto o deploy?

OBS: Sem uso de ant etc... na munheca mesmo... para ver como funciona
o assunto...

Grato,
dgregory.

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Voce não respondeu minha pergunta... vai la em casa no fim de semana?

 

 

 

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Enviada em: quinta-feira, 2 de fevereiro de 2006 09:55
Para: riojug@yahoogroups.com
Assunto: Re: [riojug] EJB - Básico

 

Beleza, estou dando uma olhada...

 

Está meio obscuro porque ele, se não me engano, usa ANT.

Muito obrigado.

dgregory.

 

Em 01/02/06, Andrei Vajgel Pinto < avajgel@...> escreveu:

Procura no eMule pelo ebook "Mastering EJB2".

Agora, construir EJB na mão mesmo, só se for para aprender. De qualquer forma, na prática, toda IDE de qualidade que se propõe a trabalhar com J2EE possui algum wizard para criação de EJBs. Normalmente, dá até para visualizar como funciona a estrutura de classes necessárias para construção do EJB, a geração do JAR, o deployment descriptor, etc.

[]'s

Andrei

"mr.gregory" < danygregory@...> escreveu:

Pessoal,

Alguem pode indicar algum material para aprender tanto a construção de
EJB's quanto o deploy?

OBS: Sem uso de ant etc... na munheca mesmo... para ver como funciona
o assunto...

Grato,
dgregory.

 

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Caríssimo,

estou me preparando para a certificação em SCBCD e,
sem a menor dúvida, recomendo o tutorial do Netbeans.

http://www.netbeans.org/files/documents/4/442/J2EE-NBTutorial.pdf


Ele vai te dar toda a visão prática sobre EJBs.

Agora, para aprender na MUNHECA, recomendo o tutorial
J2EE para o Sun Application Server, disponível em:

http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/J2EETutorial.pdf


Agora, sinceramente, aprender na MUNHECA é
recomendável apenas para conhecimento do processo. Num
ambiente corporativo o tempo gasto com o mesmo é
inaceitável e é imprescindível uma ferramenta para
automação, como ant.

Atenciosamente,
Maurício
(SCJP + SCWCD)


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Pessoal,

Alguem pode indicar algum material para aprender tanto
a construção de
EJB's quanto o deploy?

OBS: Sem uso de ant etc... na munheca mesmo... para
ver como funciona
o assunto...

Grato,
dgregory.

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estou utilizando JTable com uma quantidade grande de colunas com
diferentes larguras, gostaria de rolar "Horizontalmente" minha tabela
alguém saberia informar como faço isso?

desde já
agradeço

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Opa,

> http = getHTTPObject();

    Obtém o objeto que implementa o httpxmlrequest (o objeto q "possibilita" o ajax), a implementação pode mudar dependendo do browser.

> http.onreadystatechange = handleRequestAddAdicionalCompras;

    Atribui um listener pra quando o estado de comunicação mudar. (recebeu uma resposta, nao conseguiu se conectar com o servidor, etc)

> http.open("GET", url, true);

    Abre uma conexao por "GET" pra uma determinada url (o booleano eu nao me lembro o q eh)

> http.send(null)

    Envia a requisição, o parametro eh para enviar dados se fosse o caso de um "POST" (nao me lembro muito bem, mas acho q eh isso)

> http.readyState == 4

    É isso mesmo

> http.status == 200

    É o código de resposta do servidor (aquelas respostas definidas no HTTP), 200 quer dizer q o servidor respondeu corretamente.

Abraço!

Tiago Braga wrote:

Pessoal,

Eu estou fazendo umas coisas aqui no sistema que estou montando em ajax.
Ele funciona perfeitamente, só que eu faço praticamente control c e
control v, a única coisa que faço mesmo é o serlvet que pega os dados
do banco de dados ou coisas desse gênero.

O que estou querendo é saber de cada linha do código javascript para
saber o que é e para que serve. Vou mostrar como eu fiz.

Primeiramente, eu chamo um método do javascript, e mostrarei tb um
outro método que uso e gostaria de saber de vcs para que serve a linha
que falarei aqui.

function addAdicionalCompra(base,frm) {                 
      var nome = frm.nome_adicional.value;
      var valor = frm.valor_venda.value;
      var url = base+"adicionalCompras.view?nome="+nome+"&valor="+valor+"&acao=INSERIR";
      http = getHTTPObject(); // Para que serve isso? O que é?
      http.onreadystatechange = handleRequestAddAdicionalCompras; // Para
que serve isso? O que é?
      http.open("GET", url, true); //Para que ser isso? O que é?
      http.send(null);//Para que serve isso? O que é?
}

function handleRequestAddAdicionalCompras() {     
      var div = document.getElementById("adicional");
     
      if (http.readyState == 4) { // Isso pelo que sei é qdo está pronto
            if (http.status == 200) { // Esse eu não sei o que é.
                  var out = http.responseText;
                  div.innerHTML = out;
            }
      }
}

Me desculpem ser for mt coisa assim, mas é o que to querendo saber
para eu ficar ciente do que estou fazendo...

Agradeço desde já!

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Desenvolvimento - Linux Solutions
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