Hi, I'm looking for something that may be science fiction, but if someone
knows of software that'll do this, I'd love to hear about it.

My wife and I are interested in moving to a different part of the Denver
metro area, but we don't know which part yet.  I'm pretty familiar with many
of the Denver area neighborhoods, but not all of them and not to a really
indepth degree, despite living here for most of the past 27 years.  I've
made a list of things that are essentially criteria for narrowing down
places to live.  It's things like "must be within 3 miles of a grocery
store" and "must be within 1 mile of a bike path" and other stuff like that.

What I'm imagining is software based on something like Google Maps, where I
can draw shapes on top of the map.  For instance, I'd want to draw circles
to show a 3 mile radius around the grocery stores in town, and then 1 mile
rectangles around bike paths.  Then, I figure, I could visually see which
parts of the map are included in the most overlapping circles, and that
would narrow down the places to look for housing.

Have I been watching too many movies, or does something like this already
exist?  And if nothing exists to do exactly what I want, do you have any
great ideas for how to do an exercise like this short of buying a big map
and some colored pencils and freehanding it all on the living room floor?


Cheers,
Todd.


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Todd,
Our website has a map search feature based on Google maps for finding homes,
but it does not allow the points of interest search you are describing.  It
does allow you to put in price range, # of bedrooms and baths, etc.  You can
zoom in or out of an area, then hit search to see all the listings in that
area.  We also have some Denver neighborhoods set up on a pre-filled search,
under the Denver section.

I am not aware of any real estate map searches that do what you are wanting
with the circles and rectangles, but it sounds pretty cool.  Feel free to
check out our map search feature at www.BandyHomes.com, and let me know if
we can help you identify areas or search for homes.

Thanks,

Bob Bandy
The Bandy Home Team
303-693-0730 office
  <http://www.bandyhomes.com/> www.BandyHomes.com

Use our website to search all Denver area homes for sale.
Get a market analysis of your home's value.



   _____

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Hi, I'm looking for something that may be science fiction, but if someone
knows of software that'll do this, I'd love to hear about it.

My wife and I are interested in moving to a different part of the Denver
metro area, but we don't know which part yet. I'm pretty familiar with many
of the Denver area neighborhoods, but not all of them and not to a really
indepth degree, despite living here for most of the past 27 years. I've
made a list of things that are essentially criteria for narrowing down
places to live. It's things like "must be within 3 miles of a grocery
store" and "must be within 1 mile of a bike path" and other stuff like that.

What I'm imagining is software based on something like Google Maps, where I
can draw shapes on top of the map. For instance, I'd want to draw circles
to show a 3 mile radius around the grocery stores in town, and then 1 mile
rectangles around bike paths. Then, I figure, I could visually see which
parts of the map are included in the most overlapping circles, and that
would narrow down the places to look for housing.

Have I been watching too many movies, or does something like this already
exist? And if nothing exists to do exactly what I want, do you have any
great ideas for how to do an exercise like this short of buying a big map
and some colored pencils and freehanding it all on the living room floor?

Cheers,
Todd.

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Hi Todd:

What you want is some sort of mashup using the Google Maps API? There
is a blog dedicated to mashups. I was flipping through the list (on
the right of this site) and saw some big box retail tracking, etc. I
did not see supermarkets or bike trails though.
http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/

I do know there are tools to perform what you want, but from what I
understand they are for people looking to buy store locations and
place business based on crime stats and other key indicators. I can't
recall the name of the toolset. I think it is similar to the
functionality that you will find Applebee's within proximity to
McDonald's, etc.

Maybe it was Krunching?
http://mashable.com/2008/05/06/krunching/

Maybe it was ZoomProspector?
http://mashable.com/2008/04/23/zoomprospector/


If you think you found a great business case for a startup you may
want to look into MapBuilder which allows you to place items on a map
- or you can build the mashup you want from data sources. This sounds
like a lot of work though.
http://www.mapbuilder.net/realestate/index.php


I recently moved to Denver from Kansas City, and used the heck out of
the following tools:

There are a few "Web 2.0" sites around real estate.

Hoodeo may be what you want. They are a new site that tries to match
people with neighborhoods - the step before you actually get down to
trying to buy that home. I found it kind of hokey, but maybe worth the
5 minutes to fill in and see results.

Dothomes may be interesting as you can search listings by keyword. I
typed in bike trails and a few listings popped out. I think this is
hokey but you never know.

Zillow will give you "zestimates" which will give an approximate worth
of a home. They also show the selling price history which gives you a
leg up on negotiating with fix and flip situations. Trulia does
searches relatively well. Redfin has a great business model, putting
it here for posterity as they do not service Denver.

Zillow
http://www.zillow.com/

Trulia
http://www.trulia.com/

Redfin
http://www.redfin.com/

Hoodeo
http://www.hoodeo.com/

Dothomes
http://www.dothomes.com/

School Accountability Report
This gave scores of schools.
http://reportcard.cde.state.co.us/reportcard/CommandHandler.jsp

Nostalgic Homes
This site just gave us the ability to filter by the age of the home
(we wanted an older home), and we could remove schools with poor
scores. Like other sites you can remove square feet and asking price.
It is MLS based. I'm sure there are others.
http://www.nostalgichomes.com/MLS.php

When it came time to look at the home that made it through the
Nostalgic Filter we used two sites. If one had a panoramic walk
through the other sometimes had different photos or information.

http://coloradolistings.idxre.com/idx/search.cfm?ll=1&cid=2723

http://www.coloradohomes.com/CustomModules/Property/PropertySearch.aspx

There are a lot of real estate engines for Denver out there, so find
the ones you like.

Here's a recent blog entry on tools as well
http://mashable.com/2008/06/18/selling-your-house-online/


Good luck!

Michael

Wednesday July 9th, DENVER JAVA USERS GROUP Meeting
======================================================

Our meeting this month will be at the Tivoli building
on the Auraria Campus in room 320 AB.

<http://www.denverjug.org>

*** Free Pizza @ 5:30 ***

Main Session Speaker: John Lowe
"See SPOT run..."
7:15pm -8:30pm

BC Session Speaker: John Lowe
"Intro to JME"
6:00pm - 7:00pm
------------------------------------------------
Location:
Auraria Campus - just South of the Pepsi Center
across Auraria Parkway

Driving:
You can park in the NE lot this month only,
or the Parking Structure.  Your best bet is
to park in the open lot just to the West of
the building though.  Be sure and tell them
you are there for an on-campus event.

RTD:
Your best bet is to take either the "E" or "C"
lines, get off at the Pepsi Center, then
walk South across the Auraria campus and
the Tivoli is adjacent to the parking structure.
Alternatively, take any of the Light Rail Lines
to Colfax and walk North across the campus to
get there.

*** MAIN PRESENTATION ***

John Lowe - "See SPOT run ..."

Description:

We all know that Java applications can fit
neatly on a standard PC, and scale to large
multi-machine clusters. Java can also scale
down into small systems like phones. A group
of researches at Sun Labs asked "What if these
small systems could cluster too?" The result
was the development of the SunSPOT- a small
Java powered device (with sensors!) that is
finding all kinds of interesting applications
in rockets, on slot cars, and in robotics.
In this session we will review what a Sun SPOT is,
and review a simple robotic application that
will require two Sun SPOT to work together.

Speaker:
John Lowe is a Software Engineer at GE Analytical
Instruments in Boulder, CO. John's area of expertise
includes embedded systems and hardware/software
interaction. John has been developing embedded systems
for the past 15 years including, robotics, analytical
instrumentation and medical monitoring applications.
He has been working with Java since 1996, and has been
attending Java User groups in the Denver/Boulder area
for 7 years.

*** BASIC CONCEPTS ***

John Lowe - "Intro to JME"

Description:
Did you ever wonder how to write a Java app for a mobile
device? Have you ever wondered how a mobile device might
make use of a web service? This presentation will cover
the basics of JME, broken down into three acts:
1) What and why of JME

2) A quick "mile wide and an inch deep" overview of some
    JME specific API's,

3) A simple (but cool!) mapping application to make it all
    a little more concrete.

*** AGENDA ***

5:30 - 6:00 p.m. Food, and Networking.
6:00 - 7:00 p.m. Basic Concepts
7:00 - 7:15 p.m. Announcements
7:15 - 8:30 p.m. Main Presentation
8:30 p.m. Door prizes


*** SPONSORS ***

Thanks to our Denver JUG sponsors for supporting the Java community:

- TekSystems for providing food
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- K*FORCE for sponsoring our books for door prizes.
http://www.kforce.com/

- Auraria Campus Games Club for sponsoring us this
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- SourceBeat (2 "live" books)
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- JetBrains (1 IntelliJ IDE)
http://www.jetbrains.com/


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Does anyone know of any IP Networking groups in CO?  I would really
prefer a HP ProCurve one if you knows of any.

Hello everyone.

A brief preamble: I'm a foreigner (European), residing in US for 5
years now. Before moving here, I got a BA-equivalent (slightly
different academic system) in classical studies (non-IT-related) from
an uni back home.

Now, I'm looking to get an IT degree, since IT is what I've been doing
for living for the past 10 years or so, and too many job opening
descriptions seem to put a lot of 'on paper' weight in degrees.
Unfortunately, my work/life schedule doesn't really allow for a
full-time academic study.

What kind of approach would you recommend? Is Bachelor's a must, or is
Associate's worth the time/money investment? What may be the best /
fastest options that do not necessarily require full-bulk class
credits, allowing perhaps experience / testing substitutions?

Thank you in advance.

--
Andro Berkovic

"Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet,
consectetur, adipisci velit..."

Andro,

In IT a degree is pretty worthless.  Many job descriptions state that they want
a degree in IT, engineering, or a related field, but no one has ever asked me
about my degree.

What may open more doors for you is a professional certification (i.e. a CCNA
for a network admin. position).  You have to be careful about these programs
because a lot of certifications are also pretty worthless when it comes to
getting a job.

Check carefully whether a degree or certification program will actually open any
doors for you before spending your money or time on one.

One certification that I have heard does help when it comes to finding a job is
the Project Managers certification through the PMI.  That's a management field,
though.
--- On Thu, 7/17/08, Andro Berkovic <andro.berkovic@...> wrote:
From: Andro Berkovic <andro.berkovic@...>
Subject: [rmiug-discuss] IT Degree acquisition
To: "RMIUG DISCUSS" <rmiug-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 10:32 AM











             Hello everyone.



A brief preamble: I'm a foreigner (European), residing in US for 5

years now. Before moving here, I got a BA-equivalent (slightly

different academic system) in classical studies (non-IT-related) from

an uni back home.



Now, I'm looking to get an IT degree, since IT is what I've been doing

for living for the past 10 years or so, and too many job opening

descriptions seem to put a lot of 'on paper' weight in degrees.

Unfortunately, my work/life schedule doesn't really allow for a

full-time academic study.



What kind of approach would you recommend? Is Bachelor's a must, or is

Associate's worth the time/money investment? What may be the best /

fastest options that do not necessarily require full-bulk class

credits, allowing perhaps experience / testing substitutions?



Thank you in advance.



--

Andro Berkovic



"Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet,

consectetur, adipisci velit..."



























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http://www.schmap.com/

You can't draw on it but the offline version lets you add your own
points of interest and photos - then publish.

Below are the minutes from the July 2nd Meeting

Let me know if there are any questions/comments.

JZ

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Rocky Mountain Internet Users Group
Minutes of the 2 July 2008 meeting, "The Unintended Consequence of the
Spam Wars: Why Your Email Isn't Getting Delivered"

About 20 people attended tonight's pre-holiday meeting. Josh Zapin
facilitated and Jeremy Kohler recorded the minutes.

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------------------------------
INTRODUCTION (Josh Zapin)

We all know spam. We all hate spam. It clutters our inbox, offends us
(do I really need to see another Viagra ad?), and is just a pain in
the neck. Some researchers have estimated that every 24 hours, 100
billion spam messages are sent. That's 100 billion useless emails
every day. Ferris Research estimates that the lost productivity costs
businesses $100 billion worldwide, of which $35 billion is in the USA
alone. I think we can all agree that if we could obliterate it
completely we would.

While obliterating is probably impossible we sure are more or less
succeeding. With a litany of cool-named products like Spam Assassin,
Spam Eater, and Spam Agent, we are starting to see a decrease in
spam's growth rate. 2007 saw an increase of spam of about 10% down
from a 53% the year before that and over 100% the year before that.
Some people are saying this is the case because antispam products are
working, making spam a less attractive avenue for marketing.

Using fancy algorithms and other methods, these products "read" your
email and determine whether the email is truly worthy of your
attention. While certainly not perfect, they are helping to reduce the
clutter.

But are they doing their jobs "too" well? Increasingly people are
finding that critical emails are lost in their "spam" folders because
some attributes of these legitimate communications fail the algorithm.
So we may win the battle but not the war because email is such an
important communication device.

----------------------
ABOUT THE SPEAKER

Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. (amitchell@...) Anne is the CEO and
President of the Institute of Spam and Internet Public Policy.
Mitchell brings with her nearly 10 years of experience in the Internet
and email industries, both from the legal and technical side. Mitchell
was the Director of Legal and Public Affairs for Mail Abuse Prevention
Systems (MAPS), the original antispam blacklist. Following her time at
MAPS, Mitchell was cofounder and CEO of Habeas, the first of the email
reputation services.

---------------------
LINKS

Institute for Spam and Internet Public Policy: http://www.isipp.com
SuretyMail: http://www.suretymail.com
The Email Deliverability Blog: http://www.GettingEmailDelivered.com

------------------------
ANNE MITCHELL

A question for the audience: What's your biggest interest in this
topic? Why are you here?

AUDIENCE COMMENTS:
At work we use email in place of talking. Why don't my emails get
delivered?

We're extremely dependent on email with multiple email systems, so
spam is a big problem for us.

I work with email marketing systems, so I want to catch up on trends
in delivery and permissioning.

A family friend sent some messages I wanted and some I didn't, so I
tagged his mail as spam, not wanting to offend him. I'm not sure if
that's the best way to deal with it.

I run an email hosting company, so I try to make sure my servers don't
get blacklisted. We also have some trouble with backscatter.

I want to know what is "responsible" email marketing?

My web clients are getting hammered by spam from other countries and
I'm looking for solutions.

ANNE MITCHELL: A lot of admins actually just block entire countries.

AUDIENCE COMMENTS:
We use an in-house email deployment system, and we want to keep our
servers whitelisted.

I just want to know how to block spam.

I can get 50 to 500 spams per hour because our email addresses are
posted on a web page.

ANNE MITCHELL: You can disguise your email addresses in code so that
machines harvesting email addresses for spammers can't read it.

AUDIENCE COMMENTS:
I'm just trying to get our legitimate bulk emails delivered.

I work in IT and I need to keep up with this stuff.

I'm interested in working in this space.

I don't know much about spam.

I want to know what can we do as responsible citizens to help in the
fight against spam. How should we report it? How should we deal with
phishing emails, and what about these abuse addresses that are set up
for reporting?

I work in IT and I'm tired of hearing my clients complain about spam.

ANNE MITCHELL:

Is spam is slowing down? End users say yes, there's less spam, we're
doing a better job. But IT and admins say just the opposite, because
incoming spam has not gone down at all. ISPs for the most part are
absorbing this problem. So the filtering is getting better but the
spam isn't.

Remember when spam started including images of text? That was to get
around filters looking for "viagra" and other  words. Now spammers are
starting to send PDFs. In response, spam filters have started blocking
emails with attachments.

So with all this filtering going on, is your email getting to where
you want it to go?

People do have problems getting their email delivered to customers,
and it costs them money. This affects people on all levels.

The problem is that your good mail is getting caught up in the spam
filters as the filters try to keep up with the spammers.

Sometimes email doesn't even reach the recipient's spam folder because
the ISP didn't even send it along.

THE EMAIL PATH
Your email server sends a message to the recipient's ISP, which looks
up your IP address in a database via a DNS query. The ISP queries a
whole bunch of databases all over the world to see if the sender's IP
is blacklisted somewhere. It's  pretty easy to set up a
blacklist--which can cause problems--but fortunately now the industry
does a little due diligence to look for "genuine" blacklists. Some
blacklists include IPs simply because someone doesn't like them.
Fortunately most ISPs don't pay attention to those  lists. To be on a
genuine list, you have to truly be spamming or you haven't taken steps
to fix a clear problem--like a hosting company not dealing with a
customer who sends spam.

Your email has to run the gamut of dozens of spam filters, and they
all filter differently.

Some ISPs use their own filters, others use off-the-shelf stuff. Spam
filtering is all over the map. ISPs can use various combinations of
blacklists and filters, so it's hard to deal with the
nonstandardization, plus ISPs don't always reveal what they are doing.

SPAM ASSASSIN
Spam Assassin is one of the most widely deployed filters out there. A
lot of ISPs use it because it's open source, easy to use, and
customizable. Our service is listed with Spam Assassin.

It looks for different traits and assigns "points"--too many points
and it's tagged as spam. Kind of like failing a driving test--you can
make a few minor mistakes and still pass, but if you make too many you
fail.

Spam Assassin also assigns credit for unspamlike traits.

With Spam Assassin, the recipient email server checks the sender's IP
address for blacklistings. For example, if your IP address is using
open relays, it might be blacklisted. It also checks if your IP
address matches your domain--spammers often spoof a domain name, which
creates a mismatch.

Then it analyzes the mail headers.  For example, it analyzes the the
subject lines--searches for gappy versions of commercial products as
well as specific words and phrases.

HTML vs plain text mail: Text has better deliverability because HTML
is preferred by spammers. So lots of HTML raises your spam point
score. The software also looks for certain HTML tags, such as really
tiny or really large font sizes--these things have to be "just right"
to pass.

Spam Assassin also looks at the body of the email. Don't say that you
comply with spam regulations, for example, because it will cost you
points. "Unsubscribe" links also cause spam demerits. Even though
you're supposed to include that stuff as a good citizen, don't mention
anti spam laws because spammers are doing it too (but you MUST include
an unsubscribe link, and honor it!)

Filters might catch even common terms that you might use in normal
writing. Lots of regular text is now being identified as spam indicators.

------

So given all this testing, hitting "send" is like sending your baby
out into the world, wondering if it will make it to the other side.
What can you do to ensure delivery?

One method is to outsource your email to a service provider. This is
recommended for people sending lots of email. Check their reputation.
They might be being blocked too. See if they are participating in our
program or one of the others. See if their IP address is blacklisted
at rbls.org. Check your own IP address too.

If you must use your own  server, beware that if your ISP is hosting
spammers and won't deal with them, the entire ISP might get
blacklisted through no fault of your own. So then you may have to
switch your ISP--there's no other solution if your ISP doesn't clean
their act up.

Get your header information accurate and complete. Make sure your IP
address matches your domain. Don't use a nonexistent "From:"
address--that's spoofing, and it makes you look like a spammer.

Set up reverse DNS so your IP will resolve your domain name. DNS is
like directory assistance. Forward DNS takes a domain and finds the IP
address. Reverse goes the other way. Your ISP has to set that up for
you. And now ISPs do reverse lookup because spammers do a lot of
spoofing.

Publish authentication records like SPF and Domain Keys.

Doing these things makes it look like you're doing the right thing.
Kind of like displaying good manners, even if it doesn't always work.

If you're a big emailer, develop a personal relationship with  all of
the ISPs to which you send an appreciable amount of email. It's almost
impossible to get good responses from you're the ISPs without a
personal relationship. Many volume senders have a full-time ISP
relations person.

You really need to be aware of things that can trip a spam filter, and
they are legion.

Audience Comment: Always include a return path header for bounce handling.

You can also test your emails. Send a draft through a content checker,
or send it to yourself.

A lot of ISPs run Spam Assassin on the outbound mail server, so your
email might never even get past the gate--it won't even reach the
recipient's spam folder.

Text or HTML? Going to text sacrifices your data on click-through
rates that come with HTML, so it's scary for some.

Tell your recipients to whitelist your address! That's important
because some people never check their spam folders.

For commercial email: How you build your mailing list affects your
deliverability. You need to prove that recipients gave you permission
to send them email. The gold standard for this is double opt-in, where
you don't put someone on your mailing list unless they specifically
responded "yes" to your request to opt them in.

Just providing opt out isn't good enough. Some businesses
automatically opt you in, and then offer opt-out. It's perfectly legal
and some big companies do it that way.
You  need to be able to show opt-in information; if you don't, and
just go with opt-out, it'll get you into trouble. It's not worth it.

Antispammers have taught users not to unsubscribe from spam. So
instead everyone clicks the "Spam" button instead to report it. Now
we're retraining people to unsubscribe. Fortunately, ISPs set up
feedback loops so that when someone clicks you as spam you get
notified. Some ISPs even click your unsubscribe link for you.

When someone signs up with us for accreditation, we require feedback
loops.

Important to remove email addresses from your lists that bounce.

Backscatter:
A spammer spoofs your email address so you get all the bounce
messages. This is because spammers don't clean their lists.
Backscatter can be enough to crash smaller servers. It's a pain, but
it won't get you in trouble. You have to have your coder find whatever
is unique about the backscatter and set up a filter based on that. Of
course you don't want to block the whole ISP.

A year ago I could never say this: We outsourced our own spam
filtering to Postini. They have really turned around from their
earlier reputation of being unresponsive to senders, and I can highly
recommend them now. Their service is well worth it. This way you
outsource your spam filtering: all your mail goes to directly to
Postini first (you set up your MX record to handle that).

People actually sign up antispammers for mailing lists and that gets
them blacklisted.

Audience Comment: Disgruntled employees might opt in their old boss to
a mailing list.

Closed-loop (double) opt-in will prevent that by sending a
confirmation email before really signing you up. That verifies that
the email address  is owned by someone who wants to opt in. This is
what ISPs are looking for. They want to see the confirmation emails or
logs showing click-throughs on subscribe links.

If you send out a newsletter that requires a fee, that's another way
to verify confirmation--someone paid to be on your list. Always try to
send a confirmation message.

Some older lists are legitimate but were built before confirmed opt-in
existed. So you might have to reconfirm your legacy lists. The trick
is to make your message really compelling and split your list. Offer
an incentive for reconfirming; those that don't reconfirm you can
eventually drop. An incentive might be something like a free subscription.

Be CAN-SPAM compliant, but don't say it in your emails.

Don't try to "game" the spam filters by fussing with headers and
servers--it just makes you look like a spammer.

So email deliverability problems is a big issue and everyone has it.
Watch your dos and don'ts, and consider using an email service
provider--that can take a great weight off your shoulders.

And remember: Filters don't know the difference between "looks like
spam" and "is spam."

------------------------

QUESTIONS and ANSWERS


Q: Is there anything wrong with  using a complex email address with a
number at the end?
A: A lot of spammers use those complex addresses with numbers and
stuff. There's no rule per se, but you might trigger it somewhere.
Monitor your own email deliverability. Service providers can do this
for you. Or open up a bunch of free email accounts – like at Yahoo and
Hotmail and AOL, and see if your mail gets there.

Q: SpamCop blacklisted me because we got some backscatter and
bouncing. I want to keep track of bouncing and inform my customers
that their emails didn't make it someplace.
A: Not a big piece of the problem. ISPs know that spammers will spoof
your email address and cause backscatter.  Most of them won't hold it
against you.

That said, it's important to bear in mind that ISPs do not have to
accept your email, so  if something you are doing is causing a problem
then you just gotta do what they want.

Q: How do I avoid people mistaking my emails as phishing attacks?
A: Don't send IP addresses and make sure your links are normal. This
has been a big problem for financial institutions. The average end
user can't tell phish from legit. So just make sure you don't look
like those phishing emails you receive. You choose not to provide
click-through links--instead provide text instructions that tell
customers to go and log in to their accounts.

Q: How about return-path certification logos?
A: No one thing will kill you. Even we have to be careful with our own
accredited mailings because local spam filters can catch them after
they pass the ISP. Just be careful.

Q; Email postage? This could save ISPs lots of money.
A: That concept has met lots of resistance. Email is supposed to be
free. But how would an ISP know that postage was paid anyway? Spammers
could spoof that too. Of course, senders pay our company to ensure
that their mail gets through. So that's not terribly different from
the postage idea.

Q: Are there any ways of fixing this really screwed up email system?
A: We are testing a system that does an end run around ISPs and all
spam filters, and delivers email directly to a user's in-box. Check it
out at mailflipz.com. It's RSS based: it pulls email instead of
pushing it. Works great, but requires the user and sender to sign up.

Q: How about mass adoption of certification (publishing authentication)?
A: SPF (Sender Policy Framework) is happening. But it's just one
indicator that you're doing the right thing. You can't satisfy every
filter out there.

Q: Do filters monitor your email volume?
A: Some ISPs will look at weight limits. It hasn't been a big issue.
But if you bring a new IP address on line, be careful to use it slowly
at first to build its reputation--mass emails right off the bat won't
help , in fact they'll likely get the mail coming from that IP address
blocked.

Q: Can we have better laws?
A: CAN-SPAM is an opt-out law. Even places with tighter laws can't do
much. Spam gets routed all over. We have always said that it takes a
3-prong approach:  LAWS, TECHNOLOGY (filters), and USER EDUCATION.
That last one we've really fallen down on. That's the problem. People
buy stuff through spam. Until we educate the masses to not click
through, it's going to remain a big problem.

Q: What is some good email software?
A: Most of the Mac OS apps are great. I use Mail.app. For the greatest
security we recommend a Mac because it's a whole lot safer. If you're
running a PC you're just asking for it right now.

Audience Comment: Cloudmark service is based on how many people are
reporting back--it's good if you've got a PC.

Ok, so I feel like a complete idoit for doing this, but I forgot my
username on my windows vista machine. I was changing my security
settings and made it so vista didn't show the last user to log on so
you needed to type in the full username and password. However, when I
rebooted to make the changes take effect, I realized that I had
forgotten what my actual Username was(I know generally what it was, but
I'm forgetting a capitol letter or a period or something somewhere). By
default the Admin Account on vista is disabled and I never went through
and reenabled it. All I need to do is get back onto any account with
administrator access and change the security settings back to "Show
last user" and my problem will be solved. Does anyone have any
suggestions or ways around this? I've tried booting to safe mode but I
can't boot into either the admin or my own account.

I normally try to keep the RMIUG "airwaves" free of my clutter since I
spam this list with RMIUG announcements every other month. But, this
one is different because, I think, it's pretty cool and relevant to a
meeting RMIUG had last year:

37Signals' Jason Fried will be speaking at a Denver Ad Club Happy Hour
next week (July 31st).  (To register, go to:
http://www.netnewsdesk.com/newdenveradclub)

For those of you don't know, 37Signals (http://www.37signals.com) is
the developer of the very popular BaseCamp (http://basecamphq.com) ,
BackPack (http://www.backpackit.com), HighRise
(http://www.highrisehq.com).  All of these applications are based on
the very popular open-source framework called Ruby On Rails which is
supported by 37Signals.  Jason also authored the Getting Real
(http://gettingreal.37signals.com/), a great digital tome on how to
build faster, smarter web applications.

It should be a great meeting.  The cost is $10 for ad club members;
$20 for non-members.

Again, to register, go to: http://www.netnewsdesk.com/newdenveradclub

JZ

P.S. In the interest of full disclosure, the meeting is co-sponsored
by my (new) employer: Crispin Porter + Bogusky.

Ultimate Boot CD, see if the Offline NT Password & Registry Editor
component will help you:


http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html

For additional 'doze tools, there's also:

http://www.ubcd4win.com/

-ct

> Ok, so I feel like a complete idoit for doing this, but I forgot my
> username on my windows vista machine.

Thanks for the heads up, Josh!

One correction: the non-member cost is $25, according to the
registration link you provided.

Congrats on the CP+G gig.  I did some work with them a couple years
ago, through an intermediary.  It was enjoyable (or, as enjoyable as
working scrambling under deadline for household-name brands gets,
anyway)

-Tim

On Jul 22, 2008, at 3:13 PM, JZapin wrote:

> I normally try to keep the RMIUG "airwaves" free of my clutter since I
> spam this list with RMIUG announcements every other month. But, this
> one is different because, I think, it's pretty cool and relevant to a
> meeting RMIUG had last year:
>
> 37Signals' Jason Fried will be speaking at a Denver Ad Club Happy Hour
> next week (July 31st). (To register, go to:
> http://www.netnewsdesk.com/newdenveradclub)
>
> For those of you don't know, 37Signals (http://www.37signals.com) is
> the developer of the very popular BaseCamp (http://basecamphq.com) ,
> BackPack (http://www.backpackit.com), HighRise
> (http://www.highrisehq.com). All of these applications are based on
> the very popular open-source framework called Ruby On Rails which is
> supported by 37Signals. Jason also authored the Getting Real
> (http://gettingreal.37signals.com/), a great digital tome on how to
> build faster, smarter web applications.
>
> It should be a great meeting. The cost is $10 for ad club members;
> $20 for non-members.
>
> Again, to register, go to: http://www.netnewsdesk.com/newdenveradclub
>
> JZ
>
> P.S. In the interest of full disclosure, the meeting is co-sponsored
> by my (new) employer: Crispin Porter + Bogusky.
>
>
>



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Hi there!

I've promised my brother in Germany to develop a website for his business in
Germany & Austria.

I'm just wondering if matters if the website is hosted in the US or if it would
be better for SEO or other reasons to have it hosted in Germany/Austria?

I've never developed a website for a foreign country/ different language, any
tips/ suggestions are highly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mia

In my experience, site hosting location can be a very important
factor, especially for a web-based business, both because of
accessibility / support ease, as well as (more importantly)  handling
of potential legal issues - i.e. if your brother's company were to
have a legal dispute such as potential copyright infringement with an
USA-based company, and his hosting provider was in USA, he might find
himself cut off not only from his now-inactive website, but also from
his own domain name, if registrar is in USA. So, both for the sake of
basic business simpl;icity (communicating with provider, obtaining
support) and peace of mind, I'd recommend website be hosted in
Germany/Austria (or at least inside EU) if possible.

Andro

2008/7/23 Margit Mia Mestdagh <mmestdag@...>:
> Hi there!
>
> I've promised my brother in Germany to develop a website for his business in
Germany & Austria.
>
> I'm just wondering if matters if the website is hosted in the US or if it
would be better for SEO or other reasons to have it hosted in Germany/Austria?
>
> I've never developed a website for a foreign country/ different language, any
tips/ suggestions are highly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mia
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--
Andro Berkovic

"Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet,
consectetur, adipisci velit..."

You need to be aware of the differences in privacy and data
protection laws in Europe. Although there is a "safe-harbor" clause
in the USA that has been arranged through the FTC so that US
companies can participate in EU privacy protection laws, there are
other legal and business things you need to be aware of.

Technically, it is no problem to host it in the USA, but I would
recommend that for business and legal reasons it be hosted in Germany
or Austria.

Dennis Martin

--- In rmiug-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Margit \"Mia\" Mestdagh"
<mmestdag@...> wrote:
>
> Hi there!
>
> I've promised my brother in Germany to develop a website for his
business in Germany & Austria.
>
> I'm just wondering if matters if the website is hosted in the US or
if it would be better for SEO or other reasons to have it hosted in
Germany/Austria?
>
> I've never developed a website for a foreign country/ different
language, any tips/ suggestions are highly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mia
>

Mia,

I would guess it'd be to your benefit to have your new site(s) hosted here
in the US mostly for convenience (same general time zone) but also
because of the differences in language & culture & business practices.
I'm not trying to say that operations on foreign countries are bad, just
that you're already familiar with the customs & practices here which
should make things easier for you to deal with.

If you want a .de or .eu (or some such foreign) domain, you'll have to
use a domain registrar that can supply those for you, and there may
be additional (or less) bureaucracy involved.

-ct



----- Original Message ----
> I've promised my brother in Germany to develop a website for his business in
> Germany & Austria.
>
> I'm just wondering if matters if the website is hosted in the US or if it
would
> be better for SEO or other reasons to have it hosted in Germany/Austria?

I am looking for a person who would be willing to take over
as webmaster for a local non-profit for free or for less than market rates.
The group is the Colorado Junior Crew (http://www.cjcrew.org
<http://www.cjcrew.org/> ), basically a group of high school kids from the
Boulder area who do crew outside of school. The site is hosted by iPower and
most of the work is simply changing the calendar or other pages when
necessary. I have been using Dreamweaver but it could be done by hand. The
new webmaster should understand something about websites in case something
goes wrong (I had to fix some PhP stuff when iPower migrated to a newer
control panel) but normally there is little work. I have been doing the web
site as a favor to the group since my daughter left the crew team last year
but it is time for me to move on.



                 Anyone want to help?



Bob Weaver

rweaver@...





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Do you have an expertise that would be of interest to people in the
communications field (writers, editors, website developers,
marketeers, usability experts, instructional designers, etc.)? Do you
like to exchange new ideas with others in fields related to yours? Are
you interested in demonstrating your abilities to people you can
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If so, consider hosting a free Expert Session at the Boulder Writers
Alliance Expo, to be held at the Spice of Life Events Center (on the
Flatirons Golf Course in Boulder) from 6-9 p.m. on Tuesday, September
23.

The format for the Expert Sessions is casual and fun; no advance
preparation or formal presentations are required. As an Expert, you
select a topic you want to talk about and then agree to be available
for one or more 30-minute sessions to answer questions from guests who
come to your table, all while enjoying refreshments and a comfortable
setting for networking. Handouts are optional, although business cards
are de rigueur.

We are especially interested in people who have expertise in the
following areas:

* Blogging
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* Website design or development

For more information about the BWA Expo, see
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  >. (As an Expert, the $5  nonmember cost of admission is, of course,
waived.) For our list of Experts so far, see
<http://www.bwa.org/showcase/experts.htm
  >.

Please send an email to headley80503@... if you'd like to sign
up or if you have further questions.

Sharing your knowledge creates a win-win situation for everyone, so we
hope you'll say yes!

Regards,
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BWA Expo Experts Sessions Coordinator

P.S. If you can't participate as an Expert this year, you're still
invited to attend as a nonmember and enjoy the benefits of learning
from other experts, plus networking with peers and potential
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only $5!


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Wednesday August 13th, DENVER JAVA USERS GROUP Meeting
======================================================

Our meeting this month will be in the Tivoli
Building on the Auraria Campus in 320 AB.

<http://www.denverjug.org>

Here's a link to the on-campus Map:
http://www.ahec.edu/parking/ParkingMap06color.jpg

Please note: Originally Nikita Ivanov was scheduled for
the same talk, but cannot make it so we appreciate
Dmitriy Setrakyan stepping in to give the same talk.


*** Free Pizza @ 5:30 ***

Main Session Speaker: Dmitriy Setrakyan
"GridGain 2.0 – Grid Computing Made Simple"
7:15pm -8:30pm

BC Session Speaker: Frederic Jean
"Groovier Selenium"
6:00pm - 7:00pm
------------------------------------------------
Location: Auraria Campus-Tivoli Building; 320 AB
Directions below

*** MAIN PRESENTATION ***

"GridGain 2.0 – Grid Computing Made Simple"
Dmitriy Setrakyan

The topic of this presentation is about fastest
growing open source Java grid computing framework
called GridGain and how its focus on elegant
simplicity and Enterprise Java integration is
helping to revolutionize the grid computing for
Java in the same way as Spring or JBoss have
changed Enterprise Java landscape.

To underscore the topic of presentation it will
also include live demonstration of writing a
simple application and grid enabling it to run
on a small grid right in front of the audience.
All coding during demonstration will be done live.
Detailed and in-depth explanations will highlight
that grid computing in Java can be fun, simple
and productive to use in everyday applications
and systems.


*** BASIC CONCEPTS ***

"Groovier Selenium"
Frederic Jean

Description:

Groovy's syntax and metaprogramming abilities
provides powerful means to simplify writing UI
tests using Selenium RC. Frederic will discuss
how metaprogramming techniques can remove noise
from Selenium test scripts and implements methods
that are otherwise not implemented by the Selenium
RC Java driver. He will then introduce Groovier
Selenium which uses these very techniques to
simplify UI tests written for xVM Server and
xVM Ops Center at Sun Microsystems.


Speaker:
Frederic is the User Experience technical lead
for the xVM Server and xVM Ops Center projects
at Sun Microsystems. He is focussed on applying
Ajax technologies to the problem of managing
large scale data centers.

Frederic first learned about Groovy in 2005
when he was looking for a way to simplify
writing unit tests for Sun's update delivery
infrastructure code. He has been an advocate
for its use within Sun since.


*** AGENDA ***

5:30 - 6:00 p.m. Food, and Networking.
6:00 - 7:00 p.m. Basic Concepts
7:00 - 7:15 p.m. Announcements
7:15 - 8:30 p.m. Main Presentation
8:30 p.m. Door prizes

*** DIRECTIONS ***
We will be meeting at the Tivoli Building which is closest
to the Pepsi Center side of the campus.
The room we are in is Rm. 320 AB.

Here's a link to the Campus Map followed by the link to the PDF:
http://www.ahec.edu/parking/index.htm
http://www.ahec.edu/parking/Campus%20Map%202005.pdf


Driving:
The closest parking is in the Tivoli Parking Structure.
The first time we were on-campus some of our
attendees were charged the same rate as the Pepsi Center
Events game parking. If you park in the garage, explain
that you are there for an on-campus event sponsored by
the Metro State Computer Science Department and the Auraria
Gaming Club and that you are to pay the same rate as
students attending other on-campus events.

Do not park in the NE lot - that is for students only.

If you are going to stay late (we often go to Old Chicago
nearby on Market Street after the meeting) you may want to
park in the uncovered parking lot just West of the Tivoli.


Light Rail:
You can take the Light Rail to either the Pepsi Center
or to the Colfax and Auraria Stop.

From the Pepsi Center Light Rail Stop:
Head South, cross Auraria Parkway at the Light.
The Tivoli is the first building as you get to the campus.

From the Auraria Colfax Station:
Head NW on Main Street, past the Library and Media Center.
Continue North until you get to the Tivoli building.

*** SPONSORS ***

Thanks to our Denver JUG sponsors for supporting the Java community:

- TekSystems for providing food
http://www.TekSystems.com/

- K*FORCE for sponsoring our books for door prizes.
http://www.kforce.com/

- Gunther Douglas Inc. for sponsoring the room
http://www.guntherdouglas.com/

- Auraria Campus Games Club for sponsoring us this
   month for the Tivoli room so we can be considered
   an "on-campus" event and receive a discount rate.

- EvolutionHosting for providing web hosting
http://www.evolutionhosting.com

Doorprize sponsors:
- SoftPro for a Gift certificate towards the purchase of a book
http://softpro.stores.yahoo.net/index.html

- SourceBeat (2 "live" books)
http://www.sourcebeat.com/

- JetBrains (1 IntelliJ IDE)
http://www.jetbrains.com/

- Bruce Snyder for giving us some of his books to give away

- DZone for Eclipse Reference Cards
http://www.dzone.com


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Hey folks-

...just a quick note about Defrag (www.defragcon.com).

Last year, Brad Feld and I decided to launch Defrag -- and things are really
gaining for
momentum this year:

http://www.defragcon.com/2008/DEFRAG08Agenda.html

In November, in Denver.....

Early Bird prices expire on Friday. Use the code "bday" to receive an additional
$100 off.

We hope to see you there.

tks
ejn
www.defragcon.com

My ISP, FRII has decided to discontinue USENET server offerings.  :(
Apparently there isn't anyone left to lobby for it and they are pointing
people to GoogleGroups (gag, barf!), which as many people know by now is
usually filtered out by USENET users.  This is the first time that I have
been truly upset with a FRII decision, heck, USENET should be a community
service for network geeks!  The bean counters have obviously taken over
there.

SO...  Can anyone point me to a free and local USENET server in this area
likely to carry the local groups as well as the wider interest lists?  I
have console access of course so anything that rtin can get to I'll be
happy to use.  Call me retro, but not everything is carried on BLOGS and
Yahoo Groups.

Thanks,
DLC

--
Dennis Clark
TTT Enterprises

Dennis Clark wrote:
> SO...  Can anyone point me to a free and local USENET server in this area
> likely to carry the local groups as well as the wider interest lists?

If there are any Usenet services that are both free and good in this
day and age, I haven't seen them.  I did an extensive search 3 or 4
years ago, and the best Usenet service I found was a for-profit
service.  I hope they're still in business, since - as you've found -
it's not a priority for ISPs these days.

It ultimately became a moot point for me when the overall average S/N
of groups I was reading dropped below 10%.  I found I was spending
more time doing killfile maintenance than reading useful content.  Ah,
the good old days, when Usenet was an actual community...  I know some
people feel the same about the BBS days, but for I was never into
BBSes and cut my Internet teeth on Usenet.


Todd.

The Tuesday, September 9th meeting of the Rocky Mountain Internet
Users Group (RMIUG) will discuss "Social Networking: Our Friend or the
next Friendster?"

It seems like we hear the term "Social Networking" incessantly.  It's
impossible to turn on the TV and not hear about people's competing for
Twitter or LinkedIn friends or the fact that teenagers spend more time
on MySpace or Facebook than any other activity online.  Even YouTube
has become so mainstream that they were recently part of presidential
primary debates.  With a gazillion Tweets and hundreds of millions of
MySpace pages, it seems like "Social Networking" is all the rage on
the Internet these days.

The statistics seem to back up this phenomenon:

     * comScore recently reported that Social Networking sites like
MySpace and Facebook received almost 191 million unique visitors in
May 2008 with MySpace and Facebook getting roughly half of that
traffic alone.
     * HitWise reported that the average time spent on Social
Networking sites for all Internet users was over 27 minutes long.


Those of us who have been working with the Internet for a while have
seen trends like this before (anyone remember Friendster?) and can't
help be skeptical.

But what are these sites?  Why are people attracted to them?  How are
they different than before?

If the Information Age can be coined the Attention Economy, then
eyeballs and mindshare is the currency.  Social Networking sites have
been getting much of our attention.  Is it finally time to take notice?

During the next meeting, we will bring in a guest speaker to discuss
this fascinating topic:
Jason Cormier (jcormier@...) is Co-Founder and Managing
Partner of Room 214, a Google-certified search marketing and social
media agency and CEO of RSSReady a RSS Feed product and services
company.  Jason is a strategist dedicated to the systems and
operations that make Room 214 clients successful. He plays a lead role
in the development of customized search engine visibility, online word
of mouth and social media programs, ROI analysis and tactical
execution of marketing plans. As Chief Executive of RSSready, Jason
also coordinates software development and custom install efforts for
Post Zinger, an advanced content management platform for blog,
podcast, RSS feed management and reporting metrics. Current clients
Jason works with include Alltel Wireless, The Travel Channel, Rally
Software, Hive Live, EAS, Centura Health, Best Promotions, Smarty Pig
and the Denver Broncos.

Links:
Room214: http://room214.com
RSSReady: http://www.rssready.com
Company blog: http://www.capturetheconversation.com

The meeting is Tuesday, September 9th from 7:00 - 9:00 pm (with
optional 6:30 pm start for refreshments and informal networking). The
meeting will be held at The National Center for Atmospheric Research
(NCAR) at 1850 Table Mesa Drive in Boulder. To get to NCAR from the
Boulder Turnpike (US 36) or Broadway (US 93), take Table Mesa Drive
west towards the mountains for approximately 2.5 miles into the
foothills. NCAR is at the top of the hill. For door-to-door driving
directions, go to MapQuest (http://www.mapquest.com/), click on
Driving Directions, enter your starting address, NCAR's address, and
voila! Park in the NCAR lot, go in the main door, and ask the guard to
point you to meeting, which is held in the main auditorium, right off
the lobby. The meeting is free and open to the public, but we may pass
the hat to help defray expenses.

Our meeting location seats about 120 people. That is usually enough
room to accommodate all attendees, but it's impossible for us to
predict how many people will show up for any given meeting. Seating is
always on a first-come, first serve basis, and in the event of more
attendees than seats, we won't be able to admit additional people into
the auditorium after all seats are filled.

Thanks to our three sponsors who help make RMIUG meetings happen:
---------------------------------------------------------------
MicroStaff (www.microstaff.com) which provides Creative and Technical
talent for Web, Interactive Media, Marketing Communications and
Software Development projects, is the sponsor of food and beverages
for RMIUG meetings.
ONEWARE (http://www.ONEWARE.com) -- a Colorado-based software company
that provides semi-custom web-based applications, sponsors the RMIUG
meeting minutes.
Copy Diva (http://www.copydiva.com) which provides marketing project
management, marketing communications consulting, and web content
development is the AV sponsor for RMIUG.

Consultants and companies are invited to bring Internet-related
Product information, brochures, and business cards which will be
displayed on an information table.

There are email mailing lists set up for this group. To subscribe or
unsubscribe, see http://www.rmiug.org/maillist.html. You can also
reach the RMIUG "Executive" Committee at rmiug-comm@.... Our web
site is at http://www.rmiug.org/

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Please note that RMIUG is hosted at NCAR and we are their guests. NCAR
has security regulations in effect that we must follow in order to use
the facility. If any RMIUG attendee is unwilling to follow these
simple regulations, I would ask that he or she not attend and instead
read the minutes after the meeting.

Here are the NCAR security policies that must be followed:

1. No weapons.
2. Must sign in at front desk and provide name.
3. Cooperate with security folks including providing ID if requested.
4. We are guests of NCAR so cooperation and courtesy are expected when
dealing with NCAR staff.

If there are any questions or concerns with this policy, please
contact me directly.
Thanks, Josh Zapin (josh@...).
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>
>________________________________________________________________________
>2. USENET access in Fort Collins?
>     Posted by: "Dennis Clark" dlc@... dennis_lm_clark
>     Date: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:06 pm ((PDT))
>
>My ISP, FRII has decided to discontinue USENET server offerings.  :(


>SO...  Can anyone point me to a free and local USENET server in this area

Hi, Dennis:

Comcast offers Usenet.  Also, I recommend Nilenet as a local ISP -
who also offer Usenet, as should any good ISP - but they are located in Denver.

A number of companies offer Usenet access as an add-on service:

-  Forte Agent - the best newsgroup client, IMHO - offers news server access:
http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php

-  News Demon
http://www.newsdemon.com/

- GigaNews
http://www.giganews.com/

- RazorNet
http://www.newsrazor.net/

- Comparison site compares newsgroup servers
http://www.newsgroupservers.net/

Hope this helps!


Fred

Don't blame the bean counters, it is lilly livered Managers.  I can't remember
the details 100%, but a lot of ISPs are getting pressure from the RIAA (I hate
those guys), to close down Usenet, since it is another avenue for file sharing.

Here is a link to a way to get around blockages:
http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Bypass_Blocked_Usenet

But, bottom line, switch ISPs, as the one you are on clearly doesn't deserve
your business (or anyones).

  ***********************************************************
Mike Wolfson
Senior Software Engineer         Phoenix, AZ, USA



"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
~ Albert Einstein
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(BTW, I am not wearing my Tinfoil hat, I am not a conspiracy theorist
generally).
Forgot to mention that the ISPs are blaming the lockdown on trying to cut down
on Child Porn.  Don't be fooled, this is really the RIAA trying to control the
Internet.

Besides, while there is probably Child Porn on Usenet (and I am obviously
opposed to the scum that do that sort of thing), it doesn't warrant a blanket
shut down of the whole system.

Flee any ISP that doesn't support your rights to a free and open internet.

  ***********************************************************
Mike Wolfson
Senior Software Engineer         Phoenix, AZ, USA



"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
~ Albert Einstein
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I responded to Dennis off-list, but since the thread is continuing,
I'll offer up on-list that Indra's Net, a Boulder-based ISP since
1994, offers Usenet service.

Drop me a line if you would like more details.


John Green
Partner
Indra's Net
303-546-9151 (office)
303-884-8932 (mobile)
http://www.indra.com







On Aug 14, 2008, at 8:31 AM, Fred Elbel wrote:

>
> >
> >__________________________________________________________
> >2. USENET access in Fort Collins?
> > Posted by: "Dennis Clark" dlc@... dennis_lm_clark
> > Date: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:06 pm ((PDT))
> >
> >My ISP, FRII has decided to discontinue USENET server offerings. :(
>
> >SO... Can anyone point me to a free and local USENET server in this
> area
>
> Hi, Dennis:
>
> Comcast offers Usenet. Also, I recommend Nilenet as a local ISP -
> who also offer Usenet, as should any good ISP - but they are located
> in Denver.
>
> A number of companies offer Usenet access as an add-on service:
>
> - Forte Agent - the best newsgroup client, IMHO - offers news server
> access:
> http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php
>
> - News Demon
> http://www.newsdemon.com/
>
> - GigaNews
> http://www.giganews.com/
>
> - RazorNet
> http://www.newsrazor.net/
>
> - Comparison site compares newsgroup servers
> http://www.newsgroupservers.net/
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Fred
>
>
>

The Rocky Mountain Windows Technology User Group (www.rmwtug.org)
invites the public to its special Virtualization mini-conference on
the afternoon of Monday, September 29 in Denver.

This special mini-conference is open to the public and free of
charge, but registration is required. We need to have an accurate
attendance count for food and beverage, and to make sure we have
enough seats. Register at: http://rmwtug-2008-09-virtualization-
rmiug.eventbrite.com.

Because this event is run by the non-profit RMWTUG, the general point
of view of the presentations will be neutral with respect to the
virtualization technologies. The focus of this event is to show how
server virtualization configuration, usage and management tasks are
performed on these differing technologies. Features and functions
that are common to these virtualization technologies will be
demonstrated, and features and functions that are unique to one or
the other will also be demonstrated. Network and storage management
functions will also be demonstrated.

Technologies at this Conference

The main presentation will be performed with real servers, networking
and storage infrastructure on the stage. On the stage will be four
identical, large, name-brand servers (dual-Xeon, quad-core, large
memory) along with enterprise-class networking and storage
infrastructure including iSCSI and Fibre Channel storage. The servers
will be running VMware ESX, Microsoft Hyper-V, and possibly other
hypervisors.

Some of the technology that will be used in the on-stage
demonstrations includes 10-Gigabit Ethernet (10GbE) networking, 4-
and 8-Gigabit Fibre Channel storage, and Fibre Channel over Ethernet
(FCoE) storage. This event may be the first public demonstration for
some of this technology. Watch this space for other technologies that
will be available at this event.

Prizes and Discounts

A number of hardware and software prizes will be given away by
raffle. In addition, all attendees will be eligible for certain
product discounts.

Complete details are available at:
http://www.rmwtug.org/Virtualization_Event.htm.

Hello all,

I have recently moved out to a place in the foothills of Northern Colorado
(Bellvue Colorado).  I am (happy to say) "I'm off the grid" which of course
lends itself to certain resrictions, my dilemma is I require internet for
working from home, where I require VPN Access.  My company also has us
running web-casts..... all of which traditional satellite provided internet
services (Hughes Net and WildBlue) don't support well due to latency.  I was
wondering if by chance there are any others out there that have delt with
this situation and how they resolved it.

--
Thanks,
Ronald T. Rzepkowski
303.725.8858


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