... No problem with that... just that it's the best offer on the table to date? If it's external, we have the nxml-mode solution. neat. If it's internal to the...
Keeping stuff like this optional and in the editing aid realm becomes difficult when people write specs like this: ...
Henri Sivonen
hsivonen@...
Jul 22, 2005 11:18 am
... That is a disappointing thing to see. I had not realized until now that the spec says a valid XHTML 2.0 document _must_ contain an xsi:schemaLocation...
... Indeed, very sad. There are also other strange things inside spec. For example XHTML 2.0 uses completely different namespace than XHTML 1.0/1.1. I wonder...
Jirka Kosek
jirka@...
Jul 22, 2005 1:51 pm
... I strongly doubt that that specific requirement will survive Last Call, and feedback to the WG on how and why you dislike that will only make that easier....
... Uhm. No. I won't. But thanks for asking. Er. Mandating. Er. Still. No. ... I bet some of that won't survive Last Call. Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh...
... but only when all tool builders implement your paradise-like description -- Sebastian Rahtz Information Manager, Oxford University Computing Services 13...
Sebastian Rahtz
sebastian.rahtz@...
Jul 15, 2005 1:57 pm
Just get along? I understand that you're competitors. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Jirka posed the same scenario initially: draft a common syntax, get vendor...
... If you're suggesting that the schema-association PI is the mechanism that should be standardized for addressing this need, then I think maybe your question...
... There is one. Suppose that you have created microformat which is a subset of XHTML and you have defined RNC schema for it. Because this new format is based...
Jirka Kosek
jirka@...
Jul 15, 2005 7:26 am
Hi, This is also the case with TEI P5 (I already mentioned this in a previous message). You can have 8 types of documents (tei_all, tei_dictionaries,...
... But those cases can still handled by some means other than putting the schema-association information into individual document instances. When I load a...
... But therein lies the rub. If you ask to make the association persistent, how should the application accomplish that? And wouldn't it be nice if that...
Hi Mike, There are a few not so strong points of the external association. 1. it moves the task of choosing the schema from the author of the document to the...
... Amazingly, this is almost how it works in tei emacs. You choose a type of template (drama, dictionaries, whatever), and you are asked to confirm the...
Sebastian Rahtz
sebastian.rahtz@...
Jul 15, 2005 1:10 pm
... But is that because it is impossible to come up with any mechanism that can programatically distinguish between the files? Or is it just that the current...
... The former. You cannot tell from the initial file that I wish to constrain <x>, in this instance, only to allow <y> children, when normally <z> is allowed...
Sebastian Rahtz
sebastian.rahtz@...
Jul 19, 2005 2:39 pm
One of the great strengths of XML as she is practiced is the use of indirection. Indirection allows us to point to things (e.g., entity sets, partial...
... I appreciate indirection. But it never occurred to me that was one of the key strengths and practices of XML! Maybe it was in the days of SGML, but I for...
Sebastian Rahtz
sebastian.rahtz@...
Jul 19, 2005 3:30 pm
There is not necessary to change the PI, you can have the public schema location there and if the tool is XML Catalog aware it will resolve that to a local...
... If the interpretation is that this is a location, then it will be looked up by catalog as a URI, not a public identifier. So you'd have to tweak your...
The catalog has public, system and uri mappings. I think that this should be handled in the same way it is handled now the XML Schema association. Currently we...
... And now imagine user who is not XML hacker. How he/she will able to decide? ... I see this as a big limitation. XML files should be self-descriptive, but...
Jirka Kosek
jirka@...
Jul 15, 2005 12:51 pm
... I do not believe that tacking a schema-association PI onto an XML could rightly be called making it "self-descriptive". In terms of schema association, I...
... This is not possible in the real world. In one project for my customer I use very restricted subset of XHTML and I need to distinguish it from full XHTML....
Jirka Kosek
jirka@...
Jul 19, 2005 12:55 pm
Michael Smith wrote: [...] ... If you have two identical documents valid against the lite version of the schema then it is impossible to tell that one is...
... In that case, for the purpose of validating that document, before any changes are made to it, I can't see how it would making any difference at all which...
... what if the document hasn't been written yet? validation is one use of a schema, guided creation of elements is another -- Sebastian Rahtz Information...
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