Hi, I've been working on porting RPM 4.0.3 to cygwin (yes it isn't easy). To top it off I amy trying to compile with shared libraries. Now I've gotten popt,...
Nicholas Wourms
nwourms@...
Jun 2, 2002 12:53 am
17831
... To get in the src.rpm it must be listed as a source file. Hackery or not. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ...
Lamar Owen
lamar.owen@...
Jun 2, 2002 4:21 am
17832
... A spec file is a collection of objects. There are data, and there are methods to deal with that data. Sounds like a python or ruby application. Yes, I...
Lamar Owen
lamar.owen@...
Jun 2, 2002 4:39 am
17833
... Well said. ... I think you mean introspection or reflection. This is a feature common in dynamically typed languages. Here's something from...
Rob Nagler
nagler@...
Jun 2, 2002 1:09 pm
17834
... <grin> My sympathies :-) ... OK, generally, in rpm-4.0.3, there are linkage loops between rpmdb/* code and lib/* code. This is fixed AFAIK in rpm-4.1 by...
Jeff Johnson
jbj@...
Jun 2, 2002 3:33 pm
17835
... The computer world has had grammars and parsers and standards w/o the necessity of backpedaling for a very long time, thank you. You either conform or you...
Jeff Johnson
jbj@...
Jun 2, 2002 4:24 pm
17836
Hi, Is it possible to have the same pkg name and version but different archs in the rpmdb? I'm trying to think how one would do that without --force but I...
seth vidal
skvidal@...
Jun 2, 2002 4:42 pm
17837
there's a discussion going on over on valhalla list, regarding what the proper output should be of: # rpm --redhatprovides pico assuming the the rpmdb-redhat...
rpjday
rpjday@...
Jun 2, 2002 4:52 pm
17838
Ln Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 12:38:05AM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: <snip> Mostly sensible and sober observations </snip> ... While I understand (having produced...
Jeff Johnson
jbj@...
Jun 2, 2002 5:31 pm
17839
... Mike Harris did the most recently RH packaging -- ask him -- I speak for no-one but myself, but I imagine that since no package _Requires_ pico, he saw no...
R P Herrold
herrold@...
Jun 2, 2002 5:31 pm
17840
... The option --redhatprovides is exactly the same as rpm -q --whatprovides pico against a different database. The output whould be the same as what you see...
Jeff Johnson
jbj@...
Jun 2, 2002 5:33 pm
17841
... but i wasn't aware that you could only query capabilities that were *required* capabilities. is this documented somewhere? certainly, from everything i...
rpjday
rpjday@...
Jun 2, 2002 5:57 pm
17842
... Anything is possible, and even likely, with glibc* kernel* Oh yeah, there's gzip too. ... Yup. And then there's SMP and compat-foo packages. Can you say...
Jeff Johnson
jbj@...
Jun 2, 2002 6:02 pm
17843
... Me not Pythoneer. Me Perler. Greenspun used Tcl for ACS. The commonality is that we don't invent our own languages to solve our problems. ... Prescience...
Rob Nagler
nagler@...
Jun 2, 2002 6:03 pm
17844
Hello, I'm trying to modify my Postfix package to support alternatives on the new rh7.3 while at the same time provide backward support for older rh7x ...
Simon J Mudd
sjmudd@...
Jun 2, 2002 6:11 pm
17845
... no. I asked could they both be installed. ... I'm not worried about provides, I'm worried about name, arch. -sv ...
Seth Vidal
skvidal@...
Jun 2, 2002 6:40 pm
17846
ok, after experimenting for a while, i think i understand what's happening here. IMHO, the whole notion of --redhatprovides needs some serious work since, as...
rpjday
rpjday@...
Jun 2, 2002 6:42 pm
17847
Hi, I've got two small "work-in-progress" documents to describe the relationships between XML tags and their RPM equivalents. I've tried to compile the list of...
Jaco Greeff
jaco@...
Jun 2, 2002 6:51 pm
17848
... Oh oh, here we go with alternatives. <soapbox> First of all, you're one of the few (because you're packaging postfix) who should even consider dealing with...
Jeff Johnson
jbj@...
Jun 2, 2002 7:04 pm
17849
... Yes, multiple packages with identical names but differing arch can be installed. In fact, the same package with identical everything can be installed...
Jeff Johnson
jbj@...
Jun 2, 2002 7:15 pm
17850
... neat -- I had an archive of a couple thousand .spec files about. Do you need third-party packager 'raw material' to parse? I would imagine that...
R P Herrold
herrold@...
Jun 2, 2002 7:15 pm
17851
... Nod, proving the concept by explicitly exhausting the known universe is the only viable means to change the paradigm. That's basically what I had to do to...
Jeff Johnson
jbj@...
Jun 2, 2002 7:28 pm
17852
... You're right that --redhatprovides needs some serious work, but you're quite wrong in blaming --redhatprovides for the "pico" capability lookup problem. In...
Jeff Johnson
jbj@...
Jun 2, 2002 7:49 pm
17853
... config ... customizations ... freely ... in ... very ... I am sure you are familiar with the configuration choices that are controlled via file permissions...
Stef Van Vlierberghe
stef.van-vlierberghe@...
Jun 2, 2002 8:05 pm
17854
... ok, perhaps i worded that badly -- but that goes back to a major point i made in my previous email: what is a "capability", and is it reasonable for people...
rpjday
rpjday@...
Jun 2, 2002 8:16 pm
17855
... Again, rpm handles per-system metadata changes like chmod a-x /sbin/quotaon on upgrade by renaming the old file with an extension -- thereby preserving...
Jeff Johnson
jbj@...
Jun 2, 2002 8:40 pm
17856
... By gawd, he's got it :-) Basically "capability" is loosely defined as a "dependency". And what needs to happen is to make a "capability" exactly a...
Jeff Johnson
jbj@...
Jun 2, 2002 8:48 pm
17857
... Unfortionately, yes. ;) I'll definately shout when I'm a bit closer to having at least the RPM structure to XML structure sorted out. Adding tags is a...
Jaco Greeff
jaco@...
Jun 2, 2002 8:52 pm
17858
by the way, we're having a scintillating discussion about this stuff over on valhalla list, and someone just pointed out that you can list the capabilities of...
rpjday
rpjday@...
Jun 2, 2002 8:54 pm
17859
... Jeff I'm looking on XMLizing packages builing not so .. (few not so optimistic words) :> Now in PLD for example we have complet replacement of rpm as...
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