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Why is RSS 2.0 Bad? (Not a Rhetorical Question)   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #4032 of 7450 |

First off, some ground rules:

- no dictator Winer comments.
- no "we need RDF" comments.
- no "this isn't a community spec" comments.

And now, the question:

Why is RSS 2.0 bad?


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First off, some ground rules: - no dictator Winer comments. - no "we need RDF" comments. - no "this isn't a community spec" comments. And now, the question: ... 		Morbus Iff
morbus_iff
Offline Send Email 		Sep 25, 2002
9:42 pm

... My concern: it introduces the ability to use XML namespaces for future extensions, whilst simultaneously failing to use it for the extensions introduced in...
Dan Brickley
danbri3
Offline Send Email 		Sep 25, 2002
9:56 pm

... I've been away for three days, and might have missed a discussion about this already (hell, you should see my inbox *whoooo*) but anyway, my major concern...
Ben Hammersley
bhammersley_uk
Offline Send Email 		Sep 25, 2002
10:10 pm

... Ok. I agree with the base correlation: - RSS 2.0 allows you to use new modules, yay! - So, why aren't the new features in RSS 2.0, modules? But I'm failing...
Morbus Iff
morbus_iff
Offline Send Email 		Sep 25, 2002
10:25 pm

... The developers. I'm increasingly of the mind that the end-users, such as my mum, should neither see nor care about seeing the actual code. It's like caring...
Ben Hammersley
bhammersley_uk
Offline Send Email 		Sep 25, 2002
10:49 pm

... Could you be more specific? Why not just replace "1.0" with "2.0" in this document: http://web.resource.org/rss/1.0/modules/ Or, if "creating a module"...
Morbus Iff
morbus_iff
Offline Send Email 		Sep 25, 2002
11:13 pm

... That's my point. I can't see why not either - but we can't just assume that that's the right approach, and the spec gives us no clues, nor any way of...
Ben Hammersley
bhammersley_uk
Offline Send Email 		Sep 25, 2002
11:27 pm

... Ok. Well, if you want, I can take the 1.0 Module Building doc, turn it into a 2.0 Module Building doc, and then that "2.0 roadblock" will be removed. ... ...
Morbus Iff
morbus_iff
Offline Send Email 		Sep 25, 2002
11:33 pm

... Only if Dave accepts it into the spec. Sorry to bring that up, but it's as high as it is wide: there's no facility to do that without potentially starting...
Ben Hammersley
bhammersley_uk
Offline Send Email 		Sep 25, 2002
11:46 pm

... <much snippage/> An anonymous benefactor just privately pulled me up over this, citing the common wisdom that the web was a success because "(HTML) was ...
Ben Hammersley
bhammersley_uk
Offline Send Email 		Sep 26, 2002
1:38 am

... page. .. ... notepad ... Ben, No one working with web pages today can avoid looking at the raw HTML no matter what tools they use. Yes, tools can reduce...
dondppark
Offline Send Email 		Sep 26, 2002
2:42 am

Ben Hammersley <ben@...> wrote on Thu, 26 Sep 2002 02:38:11 +0100 ... I agree with your disagreement. The "simplicity" of HTML was great for its...
mof-rss-dev@...
mfd9351213
Offline Send Email 		Sep 26, 2002
4:02 pm

... makes sense to me....looks somewhat like the xhtml profiles Dan Connolly has been using (and I ripped off for events module): ...
Libby Miller
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Offline Send Email 		Sep 26, 2002
4:20 pm

Libby Miller <libby.miller@...> wrote on Thu, 26 Sep 2002 17:18:48 +0100 (BST) ... True, that's much along the same lines, except for the fact that...
mof-rss-dev@...
mfd9351213
Offline Send Email 		Sep 26, 2002
4:55 pm

... I think this could be a very profitable area to explore... The XHTML Basic spec's abstract, copied below, calls out some use cases that are close to those...
Dan Brickley
danbri3
Offline Send Email 		Sep 26, 2002
5:07 pm

Here here, I think Dan's comments hit the nail on the head. Simple core, and rigorous definition of namespaces and modularity. My only quible with the core has...
David Galbraith
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Offline Send Email 		Sep 25, 2002
10:28 pm

... <more snippage/> ... True. What they care about is the way that their page of 50 nested tables takes forever to load, or the way that the formatting in...
Phil Ringnalda
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Offline Send Email 		Sep 26, 2002
4:52 am

... <even more snippage/ > ... <snip/> ... <snip/> ... No, Phil, you *are* a developer. (Sorry to break this to you. :-) You're on this list. You're writing...
Ben Hammersley
bhammersley_uk
Offline Send Email 		Sep 26, 2002
6:53 am

... I agree. (Forgive me if I meander or am complete OT, but I fancy a go at posting...) When you talk on the phone you don't care how it works, you just know ...
Marcus Campbell
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Offline Send Email 		Sep 26, 2002
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