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Re: Speak of the devil

--- In rss-dev@y..., "Dave Winer" <dave@u...> wrote:
> Here's a guy who is breaking because of the namespace declaration
on the rss
> element in Simon Fell's feed. (Also Sam Ruby's.)
>
> http://www.webweavertech.com/ovidiu/weblog/archives/000053.html
>
> "In the meantime I found what the problem was. Essentially many
people,
> including Sam and Simon, updated their RSS feeds to version 2.0,
which no
> longer uses the default namespace. It instead uses the RSS 2.0
namespace
> http://backend.userland.com/rss2, which breaks some RSS aggregators,
> including my simple XSLT-based RSS aggregator. Just look at the
definition
> of the rss element in the RSS feed you mentioned:
>
> <rss version="2.0" xmlns="http://backend.userland.com/rss2">
>
> Okay, so now this problem is hitting users, albeit a technical one
who
> rolled hsi own aggregator.
>
> We must have a solution to it -- pronto.
>
> Dave

I would strongly suggest that everyone back out to RSS 0.9x until the
namespace situation and how various technologies can relate to it is
resolved.

Then I would strongly suggest a set of example RSS 2.0 feeds, with
namespaces, be placed into a directory for testing. Many folks may
need to update their tools to process namespace, such as compiling in
namespace support with PHP and so on.

Namespaces are a major tech change, and as such, needs a roll out
plan, plenty of advance warning, and careful documentation (about
concept AND about impact to popular technology).







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Here's a guy who is breaking because of the namespace declaration on the rss element in Simon Fell's feed. (Also Sam Ruby's.) ...
Dave Winer
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Sep 27, 2002
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I fail to see the relevance of this message to this mailing list which (per its home page[1]) is the list of the "RDF Site Summary 1.0 Specification Working...
Eric van der Vlist
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Sep 27, 2002
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Okay, given Eric's objection to the discussion of namespaces in RSS 2.0 here on the RDF mail list, now seems as good a time as any to tell y'all about the...
Dave Winer
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Sep 27, 2002
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... on the rss ... people, ... which no ... namespace ... definition ... who ... I would strongly suggest that everyone back out to RSS 0.9x until the ...
Shelley Powers
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Sep 27, 2002
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... on the rss ... people, ... which no ... namespace ... definition ... who ... We'll try this again since my last response didn't take: Dave, I would...
Shelley Powers
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Sep 27, 2002
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... I agree. The (admirable) addition of XML namespace support to RSS 2.0 was a major change to the non-RDF flavour of RSS, and one whose ramifications haven't...
Dan Brickley
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Sep 27, 2002
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Folks, please mark your non-RSS1.0 posts with OT please. While it's indeed tragic to see users being denied their ability to read content because of format...
Bill Kearney
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Sep 27, 2002
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... No it isn't. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-dev/ makes it quite clear that this group is about the development of "RDF Site Summary 1.0". Many of the...
Jon Hanna
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Sep 27, 2002
2:06 pm

... On the theory that there can never be too many gentle introductions to a concept, let me try again. If, on this mailing list, I say "Rael", it probably is...
Sam Ruby
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Sep 27, 2002
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... You moved from a format that had no namespace, to one that did. So of course some apps will break. Either they have no conception of a namespace and won't...
Joseph Reagle
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Sep 27, 2002
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... So rather that have them bother stepping back, just have them step to 1.0 instead. It can be built upon. And it already has a wide base of acceptance. ...
Bill Kearney
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