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(core) rdf:about vs. rdf:ID   Message List  
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AW: [RSS-DEV] Re: (core) rdf:about vs. rdf:ID

Hi

We may be talking about different things here.
From http://meerkat.oreillynet.com/?_fl=rss10:

<channel rdf:about="http://www.oreillynet.com:80/meerkat/?_fl=rss10">
<title>Meerkat: An Open Wire Service</title>
<link>http://meerkat.oreillynet.com</link>

From the current spec:
5.3.2 <link>
The URL to which an HTML rendering of the channel title will link, commonly the
parent site's home or news page. The channel link
element is

_superceded_by_(and_identical_to)_the_channel_element's_rdf:about_attribute_

, but is required for backward compatibility with RSS 0.9.

This issue is on the list of required clearifications.[1]
We could just leave the link element in case of channel and deprecate it in all
other cases except, of course, in case of image.
And break the connection between rdf:about and link in case of channel (as it is
already in case of image). And add some more
confusion.

I still don't see any reason for connecting them in the first case.
IMHO rdf:about and link serve completely different purposes.
rdf:about is about identifying a resource, link is about providing a way for
renderers (web browsers) to display a link to further
information.

The cleanest way would probably be to put all of the link/url elements into a
separate module, but this is something I'd rather like
to see in a later release of RSS.

Just my 0.02 EUROs

-markus

> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Rael Dornfest [mailto:rael@...]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Oktober 2000 02:20
> An: rss-dev@egroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [RSS-DEV] Re: (core) rdf:about vs. rdf:ID
>
>
> Howdy,
>
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Markus Strickler wrote:
>
> > The requirement to break the connection is coming from the fact, that link
> > and url are there for the sole purpose of rendering an RSS channel by an
> > HTML browser.
> > Take a look at the examples in the current spec or at Rael's RSS1.0 Meerkat
> > feed. Even there the connection has been broken!
>
> This was not a statement, but an accident -- and quickly remedied.
>
> ...
>
> Rael
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Before the spec is frozen, I just thought I'd bring up a couple of points that might need attention. I think this has been mentioned before but didn't see any...
Jason Diamond
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Oct 15, 2000
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Jason, thanks a lot for your very helpful look at the proposal from an one-step-back RDF perspective. Although a lot of work has been put in to making RSS a...
Aaron Swartz
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Oct 16, 2000
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... I believe we've discussed this at length before, but my searching abilities fail me. IIRC, there is already solid usage of this information in RSS as-is, ...
Ken MacLeod
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Oct 16, 2000
3:54 pm

... You're requiring rdf:about to be a retrievable URL. That's certainly not in the RDF M&S. ... Even though I don't understand the backwards compatibility...
Jason Diamond
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Oct 16, 2000
4:38 pm

... I used to think this was just a discussion to save for 1.1, but now I realize this is a serious issue for parsing. We're going to have to decide: - make...
Aaron Swartz
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Oct 16, 2000
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Howdy, Why would you do this? Use case? That said, is this a show-stopper for 1.0? Rael ... Rael Dornfest rael@... Maven,...
Rael Dornfest
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Oct 16, 2000
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... A good example would be our good friend Ian Davis (I may be mistaken on this point, as my memory is a bit fuzzy, if so, my apologies), who for a long time...
Aaron Swartz
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Oct 17, 2000
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... If existing practice shows a significant number of sites that have non-unique item <link>s, which we're gonna put in rdf:about to use as a reference from...
Ken MacLeod
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Oct 17, 2000
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... Is it disallowed? I would think if the RSS model says that all will be retreivable, then that would be a suitable constraint on RSS applications. ...
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Oct 16, 2000
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... From: "Ken MacLeod" <ken@...> To: <rss-dev@egroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [RSS-DEV] Re: (core) rdf:about...
Markus Strickler
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Howdy, ... This was not a statement, but an accident -- and quickly remedied. ... Rael ... Rael Dornfest rael@... Maven,...
Rael Dornfest
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Oct 17, 2000
12:26 am

Hi We may be talking about different things here. From http://meerkat.oreillynet.com/?_fl=rss10: <channel...
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