Hi, After more thoughts and tests, I have decided I was really liking this model :=) ... I'd like to propose a variant which should make it more flexible. I...
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Ken MacLeod
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Sep 1, 2000 4:11 pm
... -1 on <components>. I think it confuses the model. Here's the model now: Channel ... --textinput--> TextInput You're suggesting: Channel --components--> [...
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Eric van der Vlist
vdv@...
Sep 1, 2000 5:09 pm
... Yes, I think it's a richer content. And you can define the relative positions of your components. ... Don't we have enough statements to describe a channel...
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Edd Dumbill
edd@...
Sep 1, 2000 5:25 pm
... one big issue i have with this eric is that it makes the parsing much more difficult for non-rdf aware processors, and it makes the concept harder to grasp...
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Eric van der Vlist
vdv@...
Sep 1, 2000 5:52 pm
... Humans and non RDF XML tools could just consider the first channel as the "master" which is pretty simple ;=) . It's error prone, though, it the criterias...
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Edd Dumbill
edd@...
Sep 1, 2000 5:59 pm
... sorry i didn't just mean channel/subchannel, i was referring to your approach of a big bag instead of properties for subitems/images/etc....
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Eric van der Vlist
vdv@...
Sep 1, 2000 6:08 pm
... Is-it really more difficult ? If you do the test when you read the link (I mean within the rdf:seq) or when you access to the resource, it doesn't make...
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David Galbraith
david@...
Sep 1, 2000 6:18 pm
Aside from backward compatibility issues, With a modularized approach why not just have items, the modularity can handle the extra data needed to express them....
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Eric van der Vlist
vdv@...
Sep 1, 2000 7:19 pm
Exactly. I had preferred to speak of components insteas of items to avoid the confusion... but they look the same. Eric ... -- ... Eric van der Vlist...
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David Galbraith
david@...
Sep 1, 2000 7:37 pm
... Hence the endless namespace debates, which make the use of PURL redirects attractive. DG . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . David Galbraith - Chief...
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Bill de hÓra
dehora@...
Sep 1, 2000 9:13 pm
... I don't know. Now that the RDF genie is out you may as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb. And what's being suggested here is powerful stuff. At my work we...
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Bill de hÓra
dehora@...
Sep 1, 2000 9:13 pm
... Maybe have parent channels instead? -Bill de hÓra...
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Rael Dornfest
rael@...
Sep 1, 2000 11:20 pm
Howdy Bill, On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Bill de hÓra wrote: ... <sidebar> Quite some time back I was fiddling with the idea of using the first and last...
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Rael Dornfest
rael@...
Sep 2, 2000 6:08 pm
Howdy, After giving Edd's proposal[1] a chance to percolate both in my own brain (and yours) and in discussion on the RSS-DEV list, I'd like to call for the ...
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Dave Winer
dave@...
Sep 2, 2000 11:35 pm
My name is Dave Winer, and I read Dan Libbey's story about RSS 0.91, and it makes sense, given that he was inside Netscape and I was inside UserLand. Different...
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Aaron Swartz
aswartz@...
Sep 3, 2000 3:41 am
... I'd like to suggest that Edd's proposal not be adopted until the other related issues (see below) are resolved. I have nothing against Edd's proposal -- in...
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Aaron Swartz
aswartz@...
Sep 3, 2000 4:35 am
Hi Dave! It's great to see you coming to join our list and discussing RSS with us. I think I speak for most of us here when I say that we'd like to see RSS...
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Gabe Beged-Dov
begeddov@...
Sep 3, 2000 4:43 am
Hi Aaron, Thanks for doing the thread roundup. I'm responding to the middle thread concerning time-located RSS items. I'm actually only responding to the...
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Aaron Swartz
aswartz@...
Sep 3, 2000 4:53 am
... Understood, and in principle, I agree. However, what is needed is a way to allow channels to determine between a generic reference to the latest version of...
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Rael Dornfest
rael@...
Sep 3, 2000 12:58 pm
Howdy, I agree with Gabe here. <items> is a manifest of items included in this channel; item properties should live inside the item element itself, both for...
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Rael Dornfest
rael@...
Sep 3, 2000 12:58 pm
Howdy, I've been following the story_for_all_time vs story_over_time thread. What you're talking about is versioning (I believe it was Gabe who brought up the...
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Rael Dornfest
rael@...
Sep 3, 2000 12:58 pm
Howdy, ... I think this is an iterative process and some bits can be adopted independently of others -- I've never been a huge fan of "riders" which can just...
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Aaron Swartz
aswartz@...
Sep 3, 2000 1:11 pm
... I think the major problem (IMO) is that with the new content model, RSS channels are free to reference items which are not included in the actual document...
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Jeff Jarrell
jjarrel@...
Sep 3, 2000 1:18 pm
Hi, I am new to the list but RSS is very important to me, both in structure in popularity. I like the notion of a new name. Seems like there is a little...
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Aaron Swartz
aswartz@...
Sep 3, 2000 1:32 pm
... I think the major issue is not whether these issues are voted on at the same time, but more whether they are announced/publicized/adopted by the public. I...
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Aaron Swartz
aswartz@...
Sep 3, 2000 1:36 pm
... Agreed. After thinking about it for a bit longer, I think it's definitely the right thing to do. Rael, your thoughts? Should we put this up for a vote?...
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Eric van der Vlist
vdv@...
Sep 3, 2000 2:12 pm
... I think we need to get back to the model in order to understand the differences between Edd's proposal and the components model. Edd's proposal do not...
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Edd Dumbill
edd@...
Sep 3, 2000 5:24 pm
From Eric's message, which was enlightening as to the thinking behind his proposal, I note that it is more or less orthogonal to the current syntax, and could...
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Lisa Rein
lisarein@...
Sep 3, 2000 7:15 pm
hi all: Quick question about the RSS 1.0 spec: Some of the element content models have a model of "#PPCDATA" for example: 5.3.1 <title> A descriptive title for...
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Rael Dornfest
rael@...
Sep 3, 2000 7:26 pm
Hi Lisa, ... ... That's data produced on a Power PC Macintosh, of course! ;-) Ok, ok, so it's actually nothing more than a propagating typo -- I'll post a fix...
