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Here's what I was about to write the other day...
Short version: You don't need to fork it. You can move the spec and we'll point at your copy.
Long version: Many of the folks originally involved in Media RSS are not at Yahoo anymore. Those who are simply have been too busy with other things to make enough time to deal with it. Last year I did manage to make time to meet with one of our lawyers and get agreement (and legal text) so that we could put the Media RSS spec under a Creative Commons license and assert that we would not the patent we have in that space.
Again, I apologize. I had the best of intentions but couldn't muster the time to give Media RSS the attention it deserves.
But I've learned that there's some renewed interest in our Video team. Akash Pai (cc'd) is involved in that effort. I'm not sure if that justifies keeping the spec "at Yahoo" but will leave that up to the community. Personally, I'd rather see it go to a non-corporate group and keep interested Yahoos involved in its evolution. I just cannot be one of them at this time.
Rogers Cadenhead (also cc'd) has offered space with the RSS Advisory Board. That might make sense to pursue.
My original plan (back when I thought I had time) was to move the spec from it's current home to the Yahoo! Developer Network where it'd be easier to update and such. But in the time it took to find someone who could put the redirect in place on the search.yahoo.com servers, things change. I still have that contact and can help make that happen if need be. Ping me if/when that's needed if someone like Akash can't. I'll gladly get that done.
Jeremy
Ryan Parman wrote:
AFAIK, Jeremy Zawodny from Yahoo! is currently responsible for the spec. My own previous requests to him have either gone unanswered or un-acted upon.
Based on Y!'s lack of action on this issue, I currently believe that Y! will likely never re-engage in this work, and therefore the RSS community should officially fork version 1.1.2 of the spec and continue development without Y! support.
There are some great minds working at Y! (I recently spent 3 months working with the Y! Messenger web team), but this should definitely be considered an embarrassment to the people who are involved with Media RSS. Even the official feeds from Y! Search use the wrong namespace.
In the case of SimplePie, as of the most recent release, we simply normalized the usage of the correct and incorrect namespaces internally so that we can parse Media RSS elements either way.
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Ryan Parman
Creator and Co-Developer
SimplePie
http://simplepie.org
On Feb 21, 2008, at 12:25 AM, Sean Gilligan wrote:
Is anyone from Yahoo still on this list?
The mediarss spec at http://search.yahoo.com/mrss still says that there
should not be a trailing slash on the namespace URI.
The last official message
(http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/message/1008) we got from
a Yahoo person (David Hall) on the subject said the trailing slash
should be there. http://feedvalidator.org/ also says it should be there.
Looking at the spec with WayBack machine
(http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://search.yahoo.com/mrss) shows that
the presence or absence of the trailing slash has changed at least three
times, none of which are documented in the revision history.
Can someone from Yahoo please make sure the following things happen:
1) Correct the document to have the trailing slash once again
2) Add an explicit sentence that says the trailing slash should be there
despite earlier versions of the spec
3) Add a comment to the document revision history indicating the change
(perhaps the version should bump to 1.1.2, but it could stay 1.1.1 and
the correction would note that 1.1.1 always required a trailing slash,
there was just a typo in the spec)
For extra credit:
4) Have http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/ not return a 404 and a search form
5) Have http://search.yahoo.com/mrss redirect to
http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/
I think this would help eliminate a good deal of confusion.
Thanks,
Sean Gilligan
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