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I read a couple of the posts and there seems to be a little bit of
confusion on what exactly we were intending with that field. We'll
have to figure out a better way in our specification to make it more
clear on what our intention is for that attribute.

Essentially, player != client. Our playerUrl is just a normal web page
that shows the media content in the general sense of syndicated web
content. At this time, it's not a means of driving actual client
applications running on the end user's machine outside of the typical
sense of a web browser.

In discussing the needs with assorted partners, it became clear that
often (even at the time of RSS generation, believe it or not) a
direct link to the actual media content is unknown to them or cannot
be generated. This is because of security protections they have in
place, etc. And often, due to licensing reasons, they are unable to
reveal such links anyway.

Here's a live example of what a playerUrl might be:
http://nbc.com/nbc/Video/?c=The_Apprentice/appren_kelly_hired

Hopefully, that makes the reasoning a bit more clear. One of the
problems we want to solve is in the cases that a RSS feed can only
publish the playerUrl (for whatever reason). How do we efficiently
allow the feed to include all interesting meta data about the media
object (such as real height/width)? From the search perspective, we
want this information since we can't actually "touch" the media
object to determine it ourselves.

Solving this problem should also help actual alternative clients
using RSS.

David Hall
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:29 pm

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I read a couple of the posts and there seems to be a little bit of confusion on what exactly we were intending with that field. We'll have to figure out a...
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... So basically you need a way to express that a resource has an url, but that it isn't downloadable. Or to put it another way: you have a class of resource...
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Well, mostly. Yes, in the sense that podcatchers shouldn't waste their time downloading it because it's effectively useless to them. The primary objective of...
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Dec 17, 2004
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... Isn't that what you already get from the mime-type in the type attribute? grtz, su....
Suzan Foster
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You don't quite get "transport" from mime type. It's close though. The mime type should specify the final content type. This is unable to convey the method of...
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Dec 18, 2004
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At it's core, it is definitely mostly a "big[ger] media" concept. I'm guessing that few independent, small time publishers really care about the end...
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Dec 20, 2004
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I appreciate your conversation about this. My intention was to point out that the delivery models were different. But I also fully realize that integrating the...
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:32:39 -0000, daviddhall@... ... I have found that this is a huge problem. It does have to be addressed. A real world example is...
Lucas Gonze
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... other ... No. For example for a video file downloaded over bittorent, the URL will point to .torrent file with content-type "app lication/x-bittorent". ...
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