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#1174 From: "seboraid2" <seboraid@...>
Date: Wed May 27, 2009 5:31 pm
Subject: Re: working yahoo video mrss feed sample
seboraid2
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--- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@...> wrote:
>
> Please can someone help me with a working yahoo video Mrss sample, i have
submitted different types, but non seem to work.
>

please give me the URL from one of your MRSSs

#1175 From: "YouTube Video Critic" <shawnjmccarthy@...>
Date: Wed May 27, 2009 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: working yahoo video mrss feed sample
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--- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@...> wrote:
>
> Please can someone help me with a working yahoo video Mrss sample, i have
submitted different types, but non seem to work.
>

The youtube feeds on here are MRSS.

http://download.cnet.com/NewsBliss/3000-2164_4-10617850.html

#1176 From: "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@...>
Date: Wed May 27, 2009 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: i need working yahoo video mrss feed sample
carlwison55l
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my site mrss feeds are http://www.veetubes.com/file/feed.xml and
http://www.veetubes.com/media/feed.xml . non of them seem to work with yahoo,
what could be the problem
--- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "seboraid2" <seboraid@...> wrote:
>
> --- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@> wrote:
> >
> > Please can someone help me with a working yahoo video Mrss sample, i have
submitted different types, but non seem to work.
> >
>
> please give me the URL from one of your MRSSs
>

#1177 From: "seboraid2" <seboraid@...>
Date: Wed May 27, 2009 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: i need working yahoo video mrss feed sample
seboraid2
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Hi !

It seems that your MRSS from http://www.veetubes.com/media/feed.xml are not
standard compliant. There are <sy..> tags that are not defined by the standard

and <content:description> value must be entity encoded.

--- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@...> wrote:
>
> my site mrss feeds are http://www.veetubes.com/file/feed.xml and
http://www.veetubes.com/media/feed.xml . non of them seem to work with yahoo,
what could be the problem
> --- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "seboraid2" <seboraid@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Please can someone help me with a working yahoo video Mrss sample, i have
submitted different types, but non seem to work.
> > >
> >
> > please give me the URL from one of your MRSSs
> >
>

#1178 From: "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@...>
Date: Wed May 27, 2009 6:55 pm
Subject: Re: i need working yahoo video mrss feed sample
carlwison55l
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please can i get a working sample mrss so that i will use it to modify my own
--- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "seboraid2" <seboraid@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi !
>
> It seems that your MRSS from http://www.veetubes.com/media/feed.xml are not
standard compliant. There are <sy..> tags that are not defined by the standard
>
> and <content:description> value must be entity encoded.
>
> --- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@> wrote:
> >
> > my site mrss feeds are http://www.veetubes.com/file/feed.xml and
http://www.veetubes.com/media/feed.xml . non of them seem to work with yahoo,
what could be the problem
> > --- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "seboraid2" <seboraid@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please can someone help me with a working yahoo video Mrss sample, i
have submitted different types, but non seem to work.
> > > >
> > >
> > > please give me the URL from one of your MRSSs
> > >
> >
>

#1179 From: "seboraid2" <seboraid@...>
Date: Thu May 28, 2009 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: i need working yahoo video mrss feed sample
seboraid2
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Here you have one :

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<rss version="2.0" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/">
     <channel>

         <item>
             <media:group>
                 <media:content
url="http://cache.vxv.current.sperez.desa.vxv.v01.int.clarin.com/data/contenidos\
/c3/99/2e/c3992e9a68c5ae12bd18488bc579b30d/contenido.flv" duration="9" />
             </media:group>

             <media:rating scheme="urn:simple">nonadult</media:rating>

             <media:title type="html">1</media:title>

             <media:description
type="html">cxvxcvxcvxcvxcvxcvxcv</media:description>

             <media:thumbnail id="thumbnail"
url="http://cache.vxv.current.sperez.desa.vxv.v01.int.clarin.com/data/contenidos\
/c3/99/2e/c3992e9a68c5ae12bd18488bc579b30d/thumbs/120x120.jpg" width="160"
height="120"/>

             <media:thumbnail id="preview"
url="http://cache.vxv.current.sperez.desa.vxv.v01.int.clarin.com/data/contenidos\
/c3/99/2e/c3992e9a68c5ae12bd18488bc579b30d/thumbs/prehome.jpg" />

             <media:category scheme="http://www.vxv.com">03</media:category>

             <media:player
url="http://cache.vxv.current.sperez.desa.vxv.v01.int.clarin.com/layout/swf/play\
er.swf?properties=http://cache.vxv.current.sperez.desa.vxv.v01.int.clarin.com/pl\
ayer/conf/vxv.xml&m=Ip47I6jtAwV9" height="500" width="325" />

             <media:copyright>micro</media:copyright>
         </item>

         <item>
             <media:group>
                 <media:content
url="http://cache.vxv.current.sperez.desa.vxv.v01.int.clarin.com/data/contenidos\
/d7/a7/28/d7a728a67d909e714c0774e22cb806f2/contenido.flv" duration="153" />
             </media:group>

             <media:rating scheme="urn:simple">nonadult</media:rating>

             <media:title type="html">Vaca</media:title>

             <media:description type="html">Vaca</media:description>

             <media:thumbnail id="thumbnail"
url="http://cache.vxv.current.sperez.desa.vxv.v01.int.clarin.com/data/contenidos\
/d7/a7/28/d7a728a67d909e714c0774e22cb806f2/thumbs/120x120.jpg" width="160"
height="120"/>

             <media:thumbnail id="preview"
url="http://cache.vxv.current.sperez.desa.vxv.v01.int.clarin.com/data/contenidos\
/d7/a7/28/d7a728a67d909e714c0774e22cb806f2/thumbs/prehome.jpg" />

             <media:category scheme="http://www.vxv.com">07</media:category>

             <media:player
url="http://cache.vxv.current.sperez.desa.vxv.v01.int.clarin.com/layout/swf/play\
er.swf?properties=http://cache.vxv.current.sperez.desa.vxv.v01.int.clarin.com/pl\
ayer/conf/vxv.xml&m=aIj0jkhdvNYe" height="500" width="325" />

             <media:copyright>niubi</media:copyright>
         </item>

     </channel>
</rss>


--- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@...> wrote:
>
> please can i get a working sample mrss so that i will use it to modify my own
> --- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "seboraid2" <seboraid@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi !
> >
> > It seems that your MRSS from http://www.veetubes.com/media/feed.xml are not
standard compliant. There are <sy..> tags that are not defined by the standard
> >
> > and <content:description> value must be entity encoded.
> >
> > --- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@> wrote:
> > >
> > > my site mrss feeds are http://www.veetubes.com/file/feed.xml and
http://www.veetubes.com/media/feed.xml . non of them seem to work with yahoo,
what could be the problem
> > > --- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "seboraid2" <seboraid@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Please can someone help me with a working yahoo video Mrss sample, i
have submitted different types, but non seem to work.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > please give me the URL from one of your MRSSs
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#1180 From: "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@...>
Date: Fri May 29, 2009 12:30 am
Subject: please is this a valid yahoo video media rss file
carlwison55l
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please help me to check if this media rss is complaint with yahoo video rss
http:www.veetubes.com/medias/feed.xml

#1181 From: "Craig Whitmore" <lennon@...>
Date: Fri May 29, 2009 1:13 am
Subject: Re: please is this a valid yahoo video media rss file
lennonnznz
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http://validator.w3.org/feed


----- Original Message -----
From: "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@...>
To: <rss-media@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:30 PM
Subject: [rss-media] please is this a valid yahoo video media rss file


please help me to check if this media rss is complaint with yahoo video rss
http:www.veetubes.com/medias/feed.xml

#1182 From: "aimean07" <aimean07@...>
Date: Sat May 30, 2009 5:50 am
Subject: Re: working yahoo video mrss feed sample
aimean07
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--- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "carlwison55l" <carlwison55l@...> wrote:
>
> Please can someone help me with a working yahoo video Mrss sample, i have
submitted different types, but non seem to work.
>

#1183 From: "folgada_unica" <folgada_unica@...>
Date: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:35 pm
Subject: Survey
folgada_unica
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Good Day

My name is Gina and I am conducting a study into the effectiveness of current
interoperability protocols.

If you have worked with interoperability protocols (such as OAI-PMH and RSS),
please complete the short questionnaire at:
http://banzai.cs.uct.ac.za/survey/index.php?sid=97137&lang=en

This questionnaire is expected to take only 5 - 10 minutes of your time.
This study is conducted as part of an MSc degree in the Digital Libraries
Laboratory, Department of Computer Science at
the University of Cape Town.

#1184 From: "riddlasuperstar" <riddlariddla@...>
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:30 pm
Subject: will yahoo update existing yahoo videos entries from mrss feeds?
riddlasuperstar
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hi.

so i have found i had a small issue with my mrss file.

i have now fixed it, it had to do with <media:player... its all proper now.

but the entries that have been indexed by yahoo are not fixed.

will yahoo videos make changes from the updated mrss file?

thanks.

#1185 From: "James Abley" <james.abley@...>
Date: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:20 pm
Subject: Specification currently lists the wrong namespace
taboozizi
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Hi,

I'm putting http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/ into my browser, which used to display
the spec and have the correct namespace on the page. At the moment, I'm getting
a 302 back to

Location: http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss


and that URL is used as the namespace URI in the rendered specification.

Anyone else noticed this and know who to raise it with? I don't want any more
ambiguity in the world as to the correct namespace URI for this extension!

Cheers,

James

#1186 From: Ryan Parman <ryan.lists.warpshare@...>
Date: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: Specification currently lists the wrong namespace
skyzyxufks
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It looks like Yahoo once again arbitrarily changed the spec without telling anybody.

As of the last update that anybody was aware of, we had:

03/12/2008 - Namespace corrections: [1.1.2]

  • Added trailing slash to namespace

The correct namespace *should* be exactly what you posted. Apparently, Yahoo thought it'd be a good idea to change the namespace again and break all sorts of parsing software. It is embarrassing how badly they've bungled this spec.

Once upon a time it fell to Jeremy Zawdony, but he's left Yahoo since then. From what I can tell, nobody at Yahoo is paying attention to this spec.


On Jul 20, 2009, at 8:20 AM, James Abley wrote:

Hi,

I'm putting http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/ into my browser, which used to display the spec and have the correct namespace on the page. At the moment, I'm getting a 302 back to 

Location: http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss

and that URL is used as the namespace URI in the rendered specification.

Anyone else noticed this and know who to raise it with? I don't want any more ambiguity in the world as to the correct namespace URI for this extension!

Cheers,

James



#1187 From: Joly MacFie <joly@...>
Date: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:47 pm
Subject: Re: Specification currently lists the wrong namespace
wwwhatsup4
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Earlier discussion:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/msearch?query=slash&submit=Search&charset=ISO-8859-1


Yahoo's neglect is a shame. Wasn't there some talk of moving it out of their control?

joly

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Ryan Parman <ryan.lists.warpshare@...> wrote:


It looks like Yahoo once again arbitrarily changed the spec without telling anybody.

As of the last update that anybody was aware of, we had:

03/12/2008 - Namespace corrections: [1.1.2]

  • Added trailing slash to namespace

The correct namespace *should* be exactly what you posted. Apparently, Yahoo thought it'd be a good idea to change the namespace again and break all sorts of parsing software. It is embarrassing how badly they've bungled this spec.

Once upon a time it fell to Jeremy Zawdony, but he's left Yahoo since then. From what I can tell, nobody at Yahoo is paying attention to this spec.


On Jul 20, 2009, at 8:20 AM, James Abley wrote:

Hi,

I'm putting http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/ into my browser, which used to display the spec and have the correct namespace on the page. At the moment, I'm getting a 302 back to 

Location: http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss

and that URL is used as the namespace URI in the rendered specification.

Anyone else noticed this and know who to raise it with? I don't want any more ambiguity in the world as to the correct namespace URI for this extension!

Cheers,

James







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WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
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#1188 From: Sapna Chandiramani <sapna@...>
Date: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:52 am
Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: Specification currently lists the wrong namespace]
sapnach
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Folks,

I apologize for the issues on behalf of Yahoo.
There were indeed some problems with the spec. This happened when we were moving
the spec to the Video Search servers so it would be easier to respond to issues
and requests henceforth.

In any case, we have reverted back the spec. We are also working on a newer
version of the spec that addresses some concerns this group had pointed out
earlier, as well as some enhancements that we felt would be good to have.

We will send that out for review to you soon.

Thanks,
Sapna




-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: [rss-media] Specification currently lists the wrong namespace
Date:  Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:17:48 +0530
From:  Joly MacFie <joly@...>
Reply-To:  rss-media@yahoogroups.com <rss-media@yahoogroups.com>
To:  rss-media@yahoogroups.com <rss-media@yahoogroups.com>
References:  <h421vv+3t1f@eGroups.com>
<2A6EB872-D3DE-4B36-9206-67902504C3A1@...>





Earlier discussion:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/msearch?query=slash&submit=Search&c\
harset=ISO-8859-1
<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/msearch?query=slash&submit=Search&\
charset=ISO-8859-1>


Yahoo's neglect is a shame. Wasn't there some talk of moving it out of
their control?

joly

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Ryan Parman
<ryan.lists.warpshare@... <mailto:ryan.lists.warpshare@...>>
wrote:



     It looks like Yahoo once again arbitrarily changed the spec without
     telling anybody.

     As of the last update that anybody was aware of, we had:

     03/12/2008 - Namespace corrections: [1.1.2]

         * Added trailing slash to namespace


     The correct namespace *should* be exactly what you posted.
     Apparently, Yahoo thought it'd be a good idea to change the
     namespace again and break all sorts of parsing software. It is
     embarrassing how badly they've bungled this spec.

     Once upon a time it fell to Jeremy Zawdony, but he's left Yahoo
     since then. From what I can tell, nobody at Yahoo is paying
     attention to this spec.


     On Jul 20, 2009, at 8:20 AM, James Abley wrote:

>     Hi,
>
>     I'm putting http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/
>     <http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/> into my browser, which used to
>     display the spec and have the correct namespace on the page. At
>     the moment, I'm getting a 302 back to
>
>     Location: http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss
>     <http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss>
>
>     and that URL is used as the namespace URI in the rendered
>     specification.
>
>     Anyone else noticed this and know who to raise it with? I don't
>     want any more ambiguity in the world as to the correct namespace
>     URI for this extension!
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     James
>






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<http://punkcast.com>
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#1189 From: "riddlasuperstar" <riddlariddla@...>
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:27 pm
Subject: will removing whitespace (tabs and linebreaks) break an mrss file?
riddlasuperstar
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heya!

so i like things to be perfect.

and a byte saved, is well... a byte saved.

so for the good of both my server, and yahoos servers... i would like to remove
all the whitespace in my mrss files... just the tabs and linebreaks between each
line.

will this break an mrss file?

thank you kindly,

tomek.

#1190 From: "nilesh.gattani" <nilesh_gattani@...>
Date: Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:35 am
Subject: Re: will removing whitespace (tabs and linebreaks) break an mrss file?
nilesh.gattani
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Hi,

Just curious, where all are you removing your white spaces? For example :
if you convert  <rss version="2.0" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/">
to  <rssversion="2.0"xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"> , then its
going to break your mrss file, as it breaks the xml structure itself.

If you are keeping the xml structure intact, and removing white spaces only from
your content, then it should be fine technically, but then your content might
loose readability. For e.g., removing spaces from the title of your vides would
absolutely make no sense.

Thanks
-Nilesh


--- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "riddlasuperstar" <riddlariddla@...> wrote:
>
> heya!
>
> so i like things to be perfect.
>
> and a byte saved, is well... a byte saved.
>
> so for the good of both my server, and yahoos servers... i would like to
remove all the whitespace in my mrss files... just the tabs and linebreaks
between each line.
>
> will this break an mrss file?
>
> thank you kindly,
>
> tomek.
>

#1191 From: Ryan Parman <ryan.lists.warpshare@...>
Date: Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:46 am
Subject: Re: Re: will removing whitespace (tabs and linebreaks) break an mrss file?
skyzyxufks
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i.e. Validate your RSS file to make sure you didn't break anything. http://feedvalidator.org.

And because I'm picky like that, Nilesh meant "lose readability" (meaning it has been lost), not "loose readability" (the opposite of tight).


On Jul 30, 2009, at 11:35 PM, nilesh.gattani wrote:

Hi,

Just curious, where all are you removing your white spaces? For example :
if you convert <rss version="2.0" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"> to <rssversion="2.0"xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"> , then its going to break your mrss file, as it breaks the xml structure itself.

If you are keeping the xml structure intact, and removing white spaces only from your content, then it should be fine technically, but then your content might loose readability. For e.g., removing spaces from the title of your vides would absolutely make no sense.

Thanks
-Nilesh

--- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "riddlasuperstar" <riddlariddla@...> wrote:
>
> heya!
> 
> so i like things to be perfect.
> 
> and a byte saved, is well... a byte saved.
> 
> so for the good of both my server, and yahoos servers... i would like to remove all the whitespace in my mrss files... just the tabs and linebreaks between each line.
> 
> will this break an mrss file?
> 
> thank you kindly,
> 
> tomek.
>



#1192 From: "riddlasuperstar" <riddlariddla@...>
Date: Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:20 am
Subject: Re: will removing whitespace (tabs and linebreaks) break an mrss file?
riddlasuperstar
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heya!

i think i mis-termed that.

what i meant, was for example:

<media:content ... </media:content>[LINEBREAK]
[TAB]<media:rating .... </media:rating>[LINEBREAK]
[TAB] .... [LINEBREAK]
</media:content>

converting that to:

<media:content ... </media:content><media:rating ...
</media:rating></media:content>

basically removing all the line breaks and tabs BETWEEN each tag, but of course,
not altering the contents of the tags in any way.

i havent done this yet btw, wanting to get a heads up from you guys first.

i have already spoken to the folks at truveo, and they have told me as far as
their parser, it will not break things.

lemme know.

thanks!

--- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "nilesh.gattani" <nilesh_gattani@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just curious, where all are you removing your white spaces? For example :
> if you convert  <rss version="2.0"
xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"> to 
<rssversion="2.0"xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"> , then its going
to break your mrss file, as it breaks the xml structure itself.
>
> If you are keeping the xml structure intact, and removing white spaces only
from your content, then it should be fine technically, but then your content
might loose readability. For e.g., removing spaces from the title of your vides
would absolutely make no sense.
>
> Thanks
> -Nilesh
>
>
> --- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "riddlasuperstar" <riddlariddla@> wrote:
> >
> > heya!
> >
> > so i like things to be perfect.
> >
> > and a byte saved, is well... a byte saved.
> >
> > so for the good of both my server, and yahoos servers... i would like to
remove all the whitespace in my mrss files... just the tabs and linebreaks
between each line.
> >
> > will this break an mrss file?
> >
> > thank you kindly,
> >
> > tomek.
> >
>

#1193 From: Ryan Parman <ryan.lists.warpshare@...>
Date: Tue Aug 4, 2009 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Specification currently lists the wrong namespace]
skyzyxufks
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Sapna, et al:

Several months back, there was discussion about placing the custodianship of the Media RSS spec with the RSS Advisory Board. The folks at Yahoo! at the time had consented that it was a good idea (I believe this was Jeremy Zawdony, IIRC), but there never seemed to be any forward progress on that initiative.

My concern stems from the fact that the Media RSS spec has been broken/incorrect multiple times now under Yahoo!'s custodianship. This is a spec that many people depend on, and speaking as the developer of the SimplePie RSS parser, arbitrarily changing the namespace URL substantially affects our ability to handle Media RSS feeds. (We already have to normalize the two different Media RSS namespace URLs that are floating around: one with, and one without the trailing slash -- which was broken for over a year.)

I would really like to see the RSS Advisory Board pass a resolution to publish the namespace documentation on its site with the proper longtime namespace URI. Netscape trusted the board to oversee RSS 0.90 and RSS 0.91, and I would hope that Yahoo! would be able to see that this transfer of custodianship would be a Good Thing™ for the Media RSS community.

Future changes to the spec could be handled by the Media RSS community, of which Yahoo! and others could be a part.

Thoughts?



On Jul 28, 2009, at 12:52 AM, Sapna Chandiramani wrote:

Folks, 

I apologize for the issues on behalf of Yahoo. 
There were indeed some problems with the spec. This happened when we were moving the spec to the Video Search servers so it would be easier to respond to issues and requests henceforth. 

In any case, we have reverted back the spec. We are also working on a newer version of the spec that addresses some concerns this group had pointed out earlier, as well as some enhancements that we felt would be good to have. 

We will send that out for review to you soon. 

Thanks,
Sapna

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [rss-media] Specification currently lists the wrong namespace
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:17:48 +0530
From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>
Reply-To: rss-media@yahoogroups.com <rss-media@yahoogroups.com>
To: rss-media@yahoogroups.com <rss-media@yahoogroups.com>
References: <h421vv+3t1f@eGroups.com> 
<2A6EB872-D3DE-4B36-9206-67902504C3A1@gmail.com>

Earlier discussion:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/msearch?query=slash&submit=Search&charset=ISO-8859-1 
<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/msearch?query=slash&submit=Search&charset=ISO-8859-1>

Yahoo's neglect is a shame. Wasn't there some talk of moving it out of 
their control?

joly

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Ryan Parman 
<ryan.lists.warpshare@... <mailto:ryan.lists.warpshare@...>> 
wrote:

It looks like Yahoo once again arbitrarily changed the spec without
telling anybody.

As of the last update that anybody was aware of, we had:

03/12/2008 - Namespace corrections: [1.1.2]

* Added trailing slash to namespace

The correct namespace *should* be exactly what you posted.
Apparently, Yahoo thought it'd be a good idea to change the
namespace again and break all sorts of parsing software. It is
embarrassing how badly they've bungled this spec.

Once upon a time it fell to Jeremy Zawdony, but he's left Yahoo
since then. From what I can tell, nobody at Yahoo is paying
attention to this spec.

On Jul 20, 2009, at 8:20 AM, James Abley wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm putting http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/
> <http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/> into my browser, which used to
> display the spec and have the correct namespace on the page. At
> the moment, I'm getting a 302 back to 
>
> Location: http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss
> <http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss>
>
> and that URL is used as the namespace URI in the rendered
> specification.
>
> Anyone else noticed this and know who to raise it with? I don't
> want any more ambiguity in the world as to the correct namespace
> URI for this extension!
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
>

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------
Joly MacFie 917 442 8665 Skype:punkcast
WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com <http://wwwhatsup.com>
http://pinstand.com <http://pinstand.com> - http://punkcast.com 
<http://punkcast.com>
----------------------------------------------------------



#1194 From: "malpata_junior" <eto17@...>
Date: Tue Aug 4, 2009 10:17 am
Subject: How to access <media:content...> tag while parsing an xml file
malpata_junior
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Hi everyone.
  I'd like to know how to access <media:content...> tag while parsing an xml
file.
I have a lot of <media:...> tags, and I need to get their content.
Thanks for any idea.

Sincerely.

#1195 From: Marc Canter <marc@...>
Date: Tue Aug 4, 2009 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Specification currently lists the wrong namespace]
marccanter
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I wouldn't necessarily trust the RSS advisory board any more than Yahoo.

Besides - last I heard RSS 2.0 is already like 4 years old, so even talking about versions .9 or .91 says it all.

How 'bout you think about combining Media RSS with the efforts on-going efforts behind Activity Streams and DiSO?

These folks are state-of-the-art and they've been talking about media meta-data - so NOW is the time to converge Media RSS with those efforts and get these schemas in sync with microformats, etc.

IMHO

- marc

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Ryan Parman <ryan.lists.warpshare@...> wrote:
 

Sapna, et al:

Several months back, there was discussion about placing the custodianship of the Media RSS spec with the RSS Advisory Board. The folks at Yahoo! at the time had consented that it was a good idea (I believe this was Jeremy Zawdony, IIRC), but there never seemed to be any forward progress on that initiative.

My concern stems from the fact that the Media RSS spec has been broken/incorrect multiple times now under Yahoo!'s custodianship. This is a spec that many people depend on, and speaking as the developer of the SimplePie RSS parser, arbitrarily changing the namespace URL substantially affects our ability to handle Media RSS feeds. (We already have to normalize the two different Media RSS namespace URLs that are floating around: one with, and one without the trailing slash -- which was broken for over a year.)

I would really like to see the RSS Advisory Board pass a resolution to publish the namespace documentation on its site with the proper longtime namespace URI. Netscape trusted the board to oversee RSS 0.90 and RSS 0.91, and I would hope that Yahoo! would be able to see that this transfer of custodianship would be a Good Thing™ for the Media RSS community.

Future changes to the spec could be handled by the Media RSS community, of which Yahoo! and others could be a part.

Thoughts?



On Jul 28, 2009, at 12:52 AM, Sapna Chandiramani wrote:

Folks, 

I apologize for the issues on behalf of Yahoo. 
There were indeed some problems with the spec. This happened when we were moving the spec to the Video Search servers so it would be easier to respond to issues and requests henceforth. 

In any case, we have reverted back the spec. We are also working on a newer version of the spec that addresses some concerns this group had pointed out earlier, as well as some enhancements that we felt would be good to have. 

We will send that out for review to you soon. 

Thanks,
Sapna

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [rss-media] Specification currently lists the wrong namespace
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:17:48 +0530
From: Joly MacFie <joly@...>
Reply-To: rss-media@yahoogroups.com <rss-media@yahoogroups.com>
To: rss-media@yahoogroups.com <rss-media@yahoogroups.com>
References: <h421vv+3t1f@eGroups.com> 
<2A6EB872-D3DE-4B36-9206-67902504C3A1@...>

Earlier discussion:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/msearch?query=slash&submit=Search&charset=ISO-8859-1 
<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/msearch?query=slash&submit=Search&charset=ISO-8859-1>

Yahoo's neglect is a shame. Wasn't there some talk of moving it out of 
their control?

joly

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Ryan Parman 
<ryan.lists.warpshare@... <mailto:ryan.lists.warpshare@...>> 
wrote:

It looks like Yahoo once again arbitrarily changed the spec without
telling anybody.

As of the last update that anybody was aware of, we had:

03/12/2008 - Namespace corrections: [1.1.2]

* Added trailing slash to namespace

The correct namespace *should* be exactly what you posted.
Apparently, Yahoo thought it'd be a good idea to change the
namespace again and break all sorts of parsing software. It is
embarrassing how badly they've bungled this spec.

Once upon a time it fell to Jeremy Zawdony, but he's left Yahoo
since then. From what I can tell, nobody at Yahoo is paying
attention to this spec.

On Jul 20, 2009, at 8:20 AM, James Abley wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm putting http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/
> <http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/> into my browser, which used to
> display the spec and have the correct namespace on the page. At
> the moment, I'm getting a 302 back to 
>
> Location: http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss
> <http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss>
>
> and that URL is used as the namespace URI in the rendered
> specification.
>
> Anyone else noticed this and know who to raise it with? I don't
> want any more ambiguity in the world as to the correct namespace
> URI for this extension!
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
>

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------
Joly MacFie 917 442 8665 Skype:punkcast
WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com <http://wwwhatsup.com>
http://pinstand.com <http://pinstand.com> - http://punkcast.com 
<http://punkcast.com>
----------------------------------------------------------




#1196 From: Ryan Parman <ryan.lists.warpshare@...>
Date: Tue Aug 4, 2009 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: How to access <media:content...> tag while parsing an xml file
skyzyxufks
Send Email Send Email
 
What language are you using?


On Aug 4, 2009, at 3:17 AM, malpata_junior wrote:

Hi everyone.
I'd like to know how to access <media:content...> tag while parsing an xml file.
I have a lot of <media:...> tags, and I need to get their content. 
Thanks for any idea.

Sincerely.



#1197 From: "malpata_junior" <eto17@...>
Date: Tue Aug 4, 2009 7:56 pm
Subject: How to access <media:content...> tag while parsing an xml file
malpata_junior
Send Email Send Email
 
I am using php5.
I apologize if i forgot that information. But if anyone get a solution within
any language, i'd be happy to know it.

#1198 From: Sapna Chandiramani <sapna@...>
Date: Wed Aug 5, 2009 6:55 am
Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: Specification currently lists the wrong namespace]
sapnach
Send Email Send Email
 

I don’t think anyone at Yahoo! would have an issue of handing over the custodianship to another body. Once you agree on who it should be, we can take it forward.

 

In the meantime, we will try to have the revised spec out for review to you by the end of the week.

 

-Sapna

 

 


From: rss-media@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rss-media@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Canter
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:02 PM
To: rss-media@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Chris Messina; David Recordan; Joseph Smarr; Allen Tom; Eran Hammer-Lahav; kevinmarks@...; Monica Keller; Mary Hodder
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [rss-media] Specification currently lists the wrong namespace]

 

 

I wouldn't necessarily trust the RSS advisory board any more than Yahoo.

Besides - last I heard RSS 2.0 is already like 4 years old, so even talking about versions .9 or .91 says it all.

How 'bout you think about combining Media RSS with the efforts on-going efforts behind Activity Streams and DiSO?

These folks are state-of-the-art and they've been talking about media meta-data - so NOW is the time to converge Media RSS with those efforts and get these schemas in sync with microformats, etc.

IMHO

- marc

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Ryan Parman <ryan.lists.warpshare@...> wrote:

 

Sapna, et al:

 

Several months back, there was discussion about placing the custodianship of the Media RSS spec with the RSS Advisory Board. The folks at Yahoo! at the time had consented that it was a good idea (I believe this was Jeremy Zawdony, IIRC), but there never seemed to be any forward progress on that initiative.

 

My concern stems from the fact that the Media RSS spec has been broken/incorrect multiple times now under Yahoo!'s custodianship. This is a spec that many people depend on, and speaking as the developer of the SimplePie RSS parser, arbitrarily changing the namespace URL substantially affects our ability to handle Media RSS feeds. (We already have to normalize the two different Media RSS namespace URLs that are floating around: one with, and one without the trailing slash -- which was broken for over a year.)

 

I would really like to see the RSS Advisory Board pass a resolution to publish the namespace documentation on its site with the proper longtime namespace URI. Netscape trusted the board to oversee RSS 0.90 and RSS 0.91, and I would hope that Yahoo! would be able to see that this transfer of custodianship would be a Good Thing™ for the Media RSS community.

 

Future changes to the spec could be handled by the Media RSS community, of which Yahoo! and others could be a part.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

 

On Jul 28, 2009, at 12:52 AM, Sapna Chandiramani wrote:



Folks, 

I apologize for the issues on behalf of Yahoo. 
There were indeed some problems with the spec. This happened when we were moving the spec to the Video Search servers so it would be easier to respond to issues and requests henceforth. 

In any case, we have reverted back the spec. We are also working on a newer version of the spec that addresses some concerns this group had pointed out earlier, as well as some enhancements that we felt would be good to have. 

We will send that out for review to you soon. 

Thanks,
Sapna

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [rss-media] Specification currently lists the wrong namespace
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:17:48 +0530
From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>
Reply-To: rss-media@yahoogroups.com <rss-media@yahoogroups.com>
To: rss-media@yahoogroups.com <rss-media@yahoogroups.com>
References: <h421vv+3t1f@eGroups.com
<2A6EB872-D3DE-4B36-9206-67902504C3A1@gmail.com>

Earlier discussion:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/msearch?query=slash&submit=Search&charset=ISO-8859-1 
<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/msearch?query=slash&submit=Search&charset=ISO-8859-1>

Yahoo's neglect is a shame. Wasn't there some talk of moving it out of 
their control?

joly

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Ryan Parman 
<ryan.lists.warpshare@... <mailto:ryan.lists.warpshare@...>> 
wrote:

It looks like Yahoo once again arbitrarily changed the spec without
telling anybody.

As of the last update that anybody was aware of, we had:

03/12/2008 - Namespace corrections: [1.1.2]

* Added trailing slash to namespace

The correct namespace *should* be exactly what you posted.
Apparently, Yahoo thought it'd be a good idea to change the
namespace again and break all sorts of parsing software. It is
embarrassing how badly they've bungled this spec.

Once upon a time it fell to Jeremy Zawdony, but he's left Yahoo
since then. From what I can tell, nobody at Yahoo is paying
attention to this spec.

On Jul 20, 2009, at 8:20 AM, James Abley wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm putting http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/
> <http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/> into my browser, which used to
> display the spec and have the correct namespace on the page. At
> the moment, I'm getting a 302 back to 
>
> Location: http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss
> <http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss>
>
> and that URL is used as the namespace URI in the rendered
> specification.
>
> Anyone else noticed this and know who to raise it with? I don't
> want any more ambiguity in the world as to the correct namespace
> URI for this extension!
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
>

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------
Joly MacFie 917 442 8665 Skype:punkcast
WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com <http://wwwhatsup.com>
http://pinstand.com <http://pinstand.com> - http://punkcast.com 
<http://punkcast.com>
----------------------------------------------------------

 

 


#1199 From: Sapna Chandiramani <sapna@...>
Date: Fri Aug 7, 2009 2:06 pm
Subject: Enhanced spec for Review
sapnach
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Folks,

 

As promised, we wanted to share the new spec that we are working on with you, so you can provide your feedback.

 

It’s version 1.5 uploaded here by Nilesh:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/files/

 

Do let us know what you think. This is still also being reviewed internally.

 

Thanks,

Sapna

 


From: Sapna Chandiramani
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 12:26 PM
To: 'rss-media@yahoogroups.com'
Cc: Chris Messina; David Recordan; Joseph Smarr; Allen Tom; Eran Hammer-Lahav; kevinmarks@...; Monica Keller; Mary Hodder
Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [rss-media] Specification currently lists the wrong namespace]

 

I don’t think anyone at Yahoo! would have an issue of handing over the custodianship to another body. Once you agree on who it should be, we can take it forward.

 

In the meantime, we will try to have the revised spec out for review to you by the end of the week.

 

-Sapna

 

 


From: rss-media@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rss-media@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Canter
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:02 PM
To: rss-media@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Chris Messina; David Recordan; Joseph Smarr; Allen Tom; Eran Hammer-Lahav; kevinmarks@...; Monica Keller; Mary Hodder
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [rss-media] Specification currently lists the wrong namespace]

 

 

I wouldn't necessarily trust the RSS advisory board any more than Yahoo.

Besides - last I heard RSS 2.0 is already like 4 years old, so even talking about versions .9 or .91 says it all.

How 'bout you think about combining Media RSS with the efforts on-going efforts behind Activity Streams and DiSO?

These folks are state-of-the-art and they've been talking about media meta-data - so NOW is the time to converge Media RSS with those efforts and get these schemas in sync with microformats, etc.

IMHO

- marc

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Ryan Parman <ryan.lists.warpshare@...> wrote:

 

Sapna, et al:

 

Several months back, there was discussion about placing the custodianship of the Media RSS spec with the RSS Advisory Board. The folks at Yahoo! at the time had consented that it was a good idea (I believe this was Jeremy Zawdony, IIRC), but there never seemed to be any forward progress on that initiative.

 

My concern stems from the fact that the Media RSS spec has been broken/incorrect multiple times now under Yahoo!'s custodianship. This is a spec that many people depend on, and speaking as the developer of the SimplePie RSS parser, arbitrarily changing the namespace URL substantially affects our ability to handle Media RSS feeds. (We already have to normalize the two different Media RSS namespace URLs that are floating around: one with, and one without the trailing slash -- which was broken for over a year.)

 

I would really like to see the RSS Advisory Board pass a resolution to publish the namespace documentation on its site with the proper longtime namespace URI. Netscape trusted the board to oversee RSS 0.90 and RSS 0.91, and I would hope that Yahoo! would be able to see that this transfer of custodianship would be a Good Thing™ for the Media RSS community.

 

Future changes to the spec could be handled by the Media RSS community, of which Yahoo! and others could be a part.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

 

On Jul 28, 2009, at 12:52 AM, Sapna Chandiramani wrote:

 

Folks, 

I apologize for the issues on behalf of Yahoo. 
There were indeed some problems with the spec. This happened when we were moving the spec to the Video Search servers so it would be easier to respond to issues and requests henceforth. 

In any case, we have reverted back the spec. We are also working on a newer version of the spec that addresses some concerns this group had pointed out earlier, as well as some enhancements that we felt would be good to have. 

We will send that out for review to you soon. 

Thanks,
Sapna

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [rss-media] Specification currently lists the wrong namespace
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:17:48 +0530
From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>
Reply-To: rss-media@yahoogroups.com <rss-media@yahoogroups.com>
To: rss-media@yahoogroups.com <rss-media@yahoogroups.com>
References: <h421vv+3t1f@eGroups.com
<2A6EB872-D3DE-4B36-9206-67902504C3A1@gmail.com>

Earlier discussion:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/msearch?query=slash&submit=Search&charset=ISO-8859-1 
<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-media/msearch?query=slash&submit=Search&charset=ISO-8859-1>

Yahoo's neglect is a shame. Wasn't there some talk of moving it out of 
their control?

joly

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Ryan Parman 
<ryan.lists.warpshare@... <mailto:ryan.lists.warpshare@...>> 
wrote:

It looks like Yahoo once again arbitrarily changed the spec without
telling anybody.

As of the last update that anybody was aware of, we had:

03/12/2008 - Namespace corrections: [1.1.2]

* Added trailing slash to namespace

The correct namespace *should* be exactly what you posted.
Apparently, Yahoo thought it'd be a good idea to change the
namespace again and break all sorts of parsing software. It is
embarrassing how badly they've bungled this spec.

Once upon a time it fell to Jeremy Zawdony, but he's left Yahoo
since then. From what I can tell, nobody at Yahoo is paying
attention to this spec.

On Jul 20, 2009, at 8:20 AM, James Abley wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm putting http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/
> <http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/> into my browser, which used to
> display the spec and have the correct namespace on the page. At
> the moment, I'm getting a 302 back to 
>
> Location: http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss
> <http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss>
>
> and that URL is used as the namespace URI in the rendered
> specification.
>
> Anyone else noticed this and know who to raise it with? I don't
> want any more ambiguity in the world as to the correct namespace
> URI for this extension!
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
>

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------
Joly MacFie 917 442 8665 Skype:punkcast
WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com <http://wwwhatsup.com>
http://pinstand.com <http://pinstand.com> - http://punkcast.com 
<http://punkcast.com>
----------------------------------------------------------

 

 


#1200 From: "riddlasuperstar" <riddlariddla@...>
Date: Fri Aug 7, 2009 7:04 pm
Subject: how come no 'published date' / 'date added' element?
riddlasuperstar
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heya!

since yahoo is working on spec 1.5 (according to this email i just got...) i
thought i would throw something out here...

why does mrss not have a published date / date added element?

google's video sitemaps use this as a marker to show the user when the video was
published / added to the parent site.

i think this might be helpful.

maybe i missed it? i see <dcterms:valid> in the spec, but this is for when to
display the content rather then when it was created / added.

just a thought.

#1201 From: Sapna Chandiramani <sapna@...>
Date: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:37 am
Subject: FW: [Fwd: Re: how come no 'published date' / 'date added' element?]
sapnach
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Folks,

In RSS, the <item> element has a subelement called <pubDate>
(http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification#ltpubdategtSubelementOfLtitemgt),
which is used to specify the published date.

Thanks
Sapna


--- In rss-media@yahoogroups.com, "riddlasuperstar" <riddlariddla@...>
wrote:
  >
  > heya!
  >
  > since yahoo is working on spec 1.5 (according to this email i just
got...) i thought i would throw something out here...
  >
  > why does mrss not have a published date / date added element?
  >
  > google's video sitemaps use this as a marker to show the user when
the video was published / added to the parent site.
  >
  > i think this might be helpful.
  >
  > maybe i missed it? i see <dcterms:valid> in the spec, but this is for
when to display the content rather then when it was created / added.
  >
  > just a thought.
  >

#1202 From: Sapna Chandiramani <sapna@...>
Date: Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:06 am
Subject: FW: Suggestion for namespace conflict resolution in mRSS.
sapnach
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Sending this on behalf of Nilesh Gattani from Yahoo!

-----Original Message-----
From: Nilesh Gattani [mailto:nileshg@...]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:32 PM
To: Sapna Chandiramani
Subject: Suggestion for namespace conflict resolution in mRSS.

Again, this email didn't go through :(. Can you send it to rss-media?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
--------------
Hello rss-media,

As you people might have noticed, the mRSS spec is hosted at
http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss/,   instead of
http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/.
Currently the old url redirects to the new mRSS location. Going forward,
http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss/, is where the mRSS spec will be
hosted at.

Now, the mRSS uses http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/ as the namespace. So,
we wanted to ask what would be the best way to handle this namespace
conflict -
1. Should we just change the namespace to
http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss/ in mRSS-1.5.0 ?
2. Should we support both the namespaces for a while and then deprecate
the older one? If yes, then how do you suggest we should support both
the namespaces?

If there are other approaches, please do share them.

Thanks

#1203 From: Ryan Parman <ryan.lists.warpshare@...>
Date: Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: FW: Suggestion for namespace conflict resolution in mRSS.
skyzyxufks
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Sapna Chandiramani wrote, On 8/14/09 1:06 AM:
> As you people might have noticed, the mRSS spec is hosted at
> http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss/, instead of
> http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/.
> Currently the old url redirects to the new mRSS location. Going forward,
> http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss/, is where the mRSS spec will be
> hosted at.

This is incorrect.
* When I type http://search.yahoo.com/mrss (broken namepace), it takes me to http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss
* When I type http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/ (correct namepace), it takes me to http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss

In both cases, http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss is NOT http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss/. Note the trailing slash. Yes, it makes a difference to parser developers.

And that's my own biggest issue with Yahoo! maintaining custodianship of the spec. These are important details that have been overlooked multiple times now. Additionally, the namespace URL just magically changed one day with no notice to anybody (in the same version, no less). Things like this make my life harder, which is why I have far-and-away been the most vocal about transferring custodianship to another entity. (Admittedly it's my one, single, red-hot issue and few people other than myself probably even care. I know, I know. I'm the vocal minority here.)


> Now, the mRSS uses http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/ as the namespace. So,
> we wanted to ask what would be the best way to handle this namespace
> conflict -
> 1. Should we just change the namespace to
> http://video.search.yahoo.com/mrss/ in mRSS-1.5.0 ?
> 2. Should we support both the namespaces for a while and then deprecate
> the older one? If yes, then how do you suggest we should support both
> the namespaces?
>
> If there are other approaches, please do share them.

Well, that depends entirely on whether we can organize a transfer of custodianship of the spec, and whether that's more trouble than it's worth.

I would love to see people with initiative work together to enhance the spec -- especially the folks at Yahoo! that have an invested stake in it. And quite honestly, I don't even mind Yahoo! maintaining custodianship of the spec AS LONG AS the spec goes through an anal-retentive, perfectionist, grammar nazi first to make sure that all the I's are dotted and all T's are crossed. That hasn't been happening -- even in this very email thread where an (!important) trailing slash was overlooked.

Please, please, please nail down these types of details. This is a specification document for Pete's sake. Can we please start treating it like one?

And yes, I plan to provide feedback on the MediaRSS 1.5 spec in the next few days.


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