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Re: The Profile and the Feed Validator

Okay, I'm not going to argue with you, and I fully expect you to trash
me on your blog (which I do read).

But I should say this -- that after a few years of relative peace, I
had started recommending and using the validator.

I can't recommend it now, because I can see what's coming next.

And I think you ought to tell the members of your board how you're
using their names and company's names. I don't think they understand
what you're doing, Rogers.

And that closes this as far as I'm concerned.

Dave






Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:18 pm

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Not to mention the fact that there is a really big difference between "need to fix" and "should fix". The feed still validates, so folks should feel free to...
James M Snell
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Oct 21, 2007
3:24 am

Okay, I'm not going to argue with you, and I fully expect you to trash me on your blog (which I do read). But I should say this -- that after a few years of...
Dave Winer
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Oct 21, 2007
4:18 pm

Dave, Nearly two years ago when we kicked off this process, you and I were both concerned that it might be over-stretching as it was attempting to write a new...
Randy Morin
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Oct 21, 2007
6:03 pm

... Perhaps I'm missing it, but I don't see anything in either of Dave's message questioning the idea of a profile in general. What I do see is him...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 23, 2007
12:38 am

... We've officially endorsed the Feed Validator and the RSS Profile. That should be sufficient demonstration of our support for the profile to be tested in...
Rogers Cadenhead
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Oct 23, 2007
1:44 pm

... I previously would have thought so, but another possibility now occurs to me: namely the possibility that this group won't stand behind its own ...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 23, 2007
2:50 pm

... You should do what you think is right in the Feed Validator. I think you've done a good thing by adding 11 tests for the profile, and the way you're...
rcade
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Oct 23, 2007
3:18 pm

Rogers, please file this as constructive criticism. After sitting back and bit and watching this group operate, I see a lot of activity from you and Randy,...
James M Snell
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Oct 23, 2007
3:31 pm

... Also, it seems as if there are other people on the mailing list who are far more active than most of the board. I don't know if I've ever seen some of the...
Geoffrey Sneddon
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Oct 24, 2007
5:03 pm

The board charter requires members be active. On several occasions, members have quit and were removed because of inactivity. All current members have...
Randy Morin
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Oct 24, 2007
5:14 pm

... Are we talking about validator warnings or errors? Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/>...
A. Pagaltzis
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Oct 21, 2007
7:11 am

... Draft news item, conditionally scheduled to coincide with the completion of the vote: http://beta.feedvalidator.org/news/ These changes to the...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 10, 2007
3:20 am

... Looks good. The "misplaced Item" link is broken; it should be to this: http://beta.feedvalidator.org/docs/warning/MisplacedItem.html Like the other...
Rogers Cadenhead
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Oct 10, 2007
10:26 am

... Fixed. Thanks! ... Done. ... If it continues to look like the vote will pass on Sunday night, I commit the changes to SVN at that time, and schedule it...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 10, 2007
1:01 pm

... EDT: http://tinyurl.com/2klaft - Sam Ruby...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 10, 2007
1:33 pm

... I think that's going too far. The issue is far more complicated than the profile might suggest. The idea was to make a simple recommendation that had a...
James Holderness
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Oct 6, 2007
4:06 pm

... I previously was told that "We will vigorously defend the profile's guidance". It that guidance is as incomplete as you indicate, then I would then...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 6, 2007
5:16 pm

... The section you're raising concerns about has been in the profile for more than a year. As far as I'm concerned, it's fine in its present form. The ...
Rogers Cadenhead
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Oct 6, 2007
6:57 pm

... Independent of how long that text has been in place in the drafts, as far as I'm concerned the document has yet to be ratified by this group. ... That's...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 6, 2007
7:51 pm

... I was initially in favour of more detail, but the argument was made that too much information would just be confusing, and I think that's a valid point. We...
James Holderness
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Oct 7, 2007
6:13 am

... Citation? ... From what I can recall, the current text is based on what works best with existing, popular aggregators. Or to put it another another way, ...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 7, 2007
4:23 pm

... I don't see the connection here. If I'm a feed publisher who believes HTML is OK in channel-description, I could also be using &#x; entities in elements I...
rcade
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Oct 7, 2007
5:38 pm

... Theoretically? Sure. Question: can you cite even a single example in the wild? The latter question is relevant because I believe that the rationale behind...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 7, 2007
8:41 pm

I've taken a first pass at seeing what the scope of the changes are for the Feed Validator to fully support the profile: ...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 8, 2007
8:18 pm

... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-public/message/1491 ... It depends what you're trying to represent. For most titles, there are several forms of...
James Holderness
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Oct 8, 2007
10:11 pm

... I think that's backwards. Here's a title: <title>I bought some AT&amp;T; it went up.</title> With some aggregator/browser combinations, there will be an...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 8, 2007
11:21 pm

... I don't follow. In both cases, the feed first has to pass through an XML parser which will decode the "&amp;" or "&#x26;" and return the string "I bought...
James Holderness
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Oct 9, 2007
12:01 am

... This list is helpful. I've made fixes so that none of the above should generate messages. If you find a feed that does generate a message, let me know. -...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 9, 2007
1:38 am

... I'm finding it difficult to test stuff on the validator at the moment. Sometimes I'll get a warning for a particular test case, but when I add a second...
James Holderness
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Oct 9, 2007
2:50 am

... Fixed. And thanks for the comments[1] so far on the "orange" items on my list. Initial implementation of all of the "yellow" items is now complete and...
Sam Ruby
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Oct 9, 2007
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