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Re: !Echo wiki: lessons learned

Sam, I follow the Atom Wiki, half of the SPAM is not from registered
ids. Far from. So far from, that I'm calling you a liar.
Thanks,

Randy

--- In rss-public@yahoogroups.com, Sam Ruby <rubys@...> wrote:
> As I said, if you tell everybody that they need to create an id first,
> then all the spammers will create an id. And the spam rate goes up.
> Even so, with registration being optional, about half of the spam is
> from registered ids.
Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:46 am

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Since a wiki appears likely in the future of the participants of rss-public, I thought it might be worthwhile if I shared some of my experiences in the hopes... 		Sam Ruby
sa3ruby
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12:46 am

One thing I didn't see mentioned is WikiSPAM. Most public Wikis require a lot of WikiSPAM removal effort. In fact, most Wikis die from WikiSPAM. Requiring a...
Randy Morin
randymorin
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2:19 am

You should also note that there isn't much spam on the Atom Wiki. An active community that takes ownership of the wiki and responsibility for keeping it clean...
James M Snell
jasnellspace
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2:31 am

You are right, there isn't much, but there is some. Additionally, Atom is the exception. Most Wikis I've used were eventually taken offline because they were...
Randy Morin
randymorin
Offline Send Email 		Feb 24, 2006
2:48 am

... I’ve been a very active participant on the WLUG Wiki [1] in the past. It has very high pagerank; it comes up as #1 or among the first couple of hits for...
A. Pagaltzis
a22pag
Offline Send Email 		Feb 24, 2006
7:11 am

... Despite the high page rank of the Atom Wiki, the human effort required to keep spam away is surprisingly low. A few pages per day at peak times, and often...
Sam Ruby
sa3ruby
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2:57 am

But still, some gets thru... http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PutDeleteSupport?action=diff Simply requiring authentication would mean near 0 SPAM. Near 0...
Randy Morin
randymorin
Offline Send Email 		Feb 24, 2006
3:06 am

Hmm. I've run a Wiki for the Smalltalk Product line here: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/CincomSmalltalkWiki for years. We started to have a problem with...
jarober61
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3:18 am

... Randy, I do think that this is an area where I have some experience. You said yourself that the Atom wiki "is the exception". The least you could do is...
Sam Ruby
sa3ruby
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3:33 am

Sam, I follow the Atom Wiki, half of the SPAM is not from registered ids. Far from. So far from, that I'm calling you a liar. Thanks, Randy...
Randy Morin
randymorin
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3:46 am

... I guess that's one possible explanation. Another, perhaps more polite one, would be that I am simply mistaken. And finally, still another is that after I...
Sam Ruby
sa3ruby
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5:54 am

OK, but then I have to congratulate you. You seem to be capable of doing this before my aggregator pulls the RSS file every hour. That's quite amazing. Randy...
Randy Morin
randymorin
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6:30 am

... I assume that this is sarcasm. I have to believe that Rogers felt that each of the eight of you would add much needed confidence and credibility to the...
Sam Ruby
sa3ruby
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12:54 pm

Shame on me for exposing that lie. I guess I should just do nothing like most everybody else. That would be better. Unfortunately, when I joined this board, I...
Randy Morin
randymorin
Offline Send Email 		Feb 24, 2006
1:03 pm

... That's the second time you have called me a liar on this mailing list. I ask you to provide your evidence. A screenshot, a snippet from a feed, anything. ...
Sam Ruby
sa3ruby
Offline Send Email 		Feb 24, 2006
1:52 pm

... Randy: Take your sniping off line. It's making you look worse than your words. Start talking about the format and moving it forward. Steve...
Steve Kirks
srkbuh
Offline Send Email 		Feb 24, 2006
2:02 pm

... Over the issue of whether the RSS Board Wiki should have authentication?? The mind boggles. ... What I don’t understand is why you believe Sam would lie...
A. Pagaltzis
a22pag
Offline Send Email 		Feb 24, 2006
2:09 pm

... The board members and the active contributors to this list are all well-qualified on the subject. Syndication issues generate a lot of heat, and I'd like...
rcade
Offline Send Email 		Feb 24, 2006
2:18 pm

... +1 Steve. Besides, let the elephant do the sniping, it's not like anyone has the balls to prevent it anyway...
Bill Kearney
wkearney99
Offline Send Email 		Feb 24, 2006
2:14 pm

I have no idea what your mailer is doing but reconfigure it for plain text when sending the mailing list. I've seen a lot of punctunation-mangling but that's...
Bill Kearney
wkearney99
Offline Send Email 		Feb 24, 2006
2:17 pm
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