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Reply | Forward Message #675 of 1975 |
DeWitt Clinton: But what if you wanted to put something interesting
inside a syndicated content feed? What if you wanted to put valid XHTML
in a feed? You went through the trouble of writing XHTML, why should it
be flattened to an opaque blob of "maybe plain text maybe escaped HTML
but I'm not really sure"? What if you added semantic microformat markup
to your HTML?

http://www.unto.net/unto/work/on-rss-and-atom/

This issue needs to be address by the RSS Advisory board. Clearly,
XHTML has been embedded for years into RSS using the <xhtml:body>.

http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/1299.html

Let's quickly include this in the profile, so that others can't say
that RSS doesn't do XHTML.
Thanks,

Randy Charles Morin
http://www.kbcafe.com/rss








Wed Jul 5, 2006 10:50 pm

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DeWitt Clinton: But what if you wanted to put something interesting inside a syndicated content feed? What if you wanted to put valid XHTML in a feed? You went...
Randy Morin
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Jul 5, 2006
11:08 pm

... Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/>...
A. Pagaltzis
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Jul 5, 2006
11:57 pm

Aristotle, Are you implying that we shouldn't bother trying? I think we should. Hopefully, the rest of the RSS Advisory Board is on the same page. Thanks, ...
Randy Morin
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Jul 6, 2006
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Hi Randy, ... not at all! Sorry if I gave that impression. I was reacting to ... I meant that I doubt you will ever be able to say that RSS2 is on par with...
A. Pagaltzis
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Jul 6, 2006
2:23 am

... Personally, I would love to see RSS fully support XHTML. Since the spec is frozen, I'm curious as to how this would be accomplished in the profile. Does...
Mark Woodman
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Jul 6, 2006
3:04 am

Yes, my understanding is that the profile would recommend extensions. This simply hasn't happened yet. Thanks, Randy Charles Morin http://www.kbcafe.com/rss ...
Randy Morin
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Jul 6, 2006
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... Yeah, me too. ... A good start would be to get the current board members to support it or at least commit to supporting it in their products. So far it...
James Holderness
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Jul 6, 2006
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... Woops, yeah. I was looking at them in an app that unescaped them automagically. Thanks for catching that. -- Mark Woodman http://markwoodman.com...
Mark Woodman
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Jul 6, 2006
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... In around 10 days I'm going to begin a final 30-day push to finish the first version of the RSS Profile and propose it to the board. If it is approved,...
rcade
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Jul 6, 2006
12:03 pm

Rogers, I personally, would rather go with xhtml:body, as many aggregators already support it. Whereas atom:content would be something entirely new. MHO, Randy...
Randy Morin
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Jul 6, 2006
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... Thinking over this again, I'm not sure that it matters. If you want to include xhtml:body in a feed as Randy is suggesting you're still going to be ...
James Holderness
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Jul 6, 2006
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James, Agreed, the recommendation should be to use xhtml:body in addition to description, not instead. Thanks, Randy Charles Morin http://www.kbcafe.com/rss ...
Randy Morin
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Jul 6, 2006
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... going to be ... compatibility. So ... still be ... An issue with this thinking is that RSS implementors don't have an order of precedence when several...
rcade
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Rogers, If we limit inclusion to stable XML vocabularies and avoid volatile ones, then we should never have this problem. I doubt xhtml:body, content:encoded...
Randy Morin
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... By that criterion, the IETF-ratified Atom 1.0 is the strongest candidate for namespaced extensions: it’s never ever going to change. SCNR :), -- ...
A. Pagaltzis
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Agreed. And I've got one big recommendation there that's already used by FeedBurner and others. The Atom Link Construct for self discovery ...
Randy Morin
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Jul 6, 2006
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... I think great care should be taken to pick extensions for mention in the profile. The overarching, all-consuming goal at this point is interoperability....
A. Pagaltzis
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Well said and completely agree. Thanks, Randy Charles Morin http://www.kbcafe.com/rss...
Randy Morin
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Jul 6, 2006
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... content:encoded was designed for RSS 1.0. xhtml:body was designed for XHTML. atom:content was designed for Atom. None of them are likely to ever describe...
Sam Ruby
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Jul 6, 2006
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... +1 Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/>...
A. Pagaltzis
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This would be awesome. Randy Charles Morin http://www.kbcafe.com/rss ... but if ... common ... (for ... item;...
Randy Morin
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... At FeedBurner, we have an informal precedence based upon the body of feeds that we've seen. Basically, if an item has both content:encoded and description,...
Eric Lunt
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Jul 6, 2006
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Point of information ... I thought that one could legitimitely embed CDATA sections in RSS feeds. XHTML can go in CDATA sections, can it not? Aggregators...
Seth Russell
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Jul 6, 2006
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... Double-escaping and CDATA sections are one and the same. Both are opaque string blobs as far as the XML parser is concerned. Double-escaped XHTML data is a...
A. Pagaltzis
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Jul 6, 2006
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Yeah, I'm with Randy on this. Last time I checked I found 9 aggregators that supported xhtml:body in some form or other, but only one that supported ...
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