FriendFeed is working on Simple Update Protocol (SUP), a means of discovering when feeds on a particular service have been updated without polling the...
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rcade
Dec 6, 2008 4:45 pm
After posting I found an alternative idea employed by Six Apart -- an update stream in Atom format with updates from any TypePad or Vox blog: ...
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rcade
Dec 6, 2008 4:57 pm
I added an issue to SUP's home page on Code.Google.Com about the use of invalid RSS: http://code.google.com/p/simpleupdateprotocol/issues/detail?id=3 That page...
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Charles Iliya Krempeaux
supercanadian@...
Dec 6, 2008 7:43 pm
Hello, ... AFAIK, Atom requires you to use URLs for non-standard "rel" attribute values. So what SUP is doing for the "rel" attribute is correct. ... You...
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rcade
Dec 7, 2008 1:13 am
... Interesting -- I wasn't aware of that. I tried to check it in the Atom format spec, but I don't understand this sentence: "The value of "rel" MUST be a...
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Aristotle Pagaltzis
a22pag
Dec 7, 2008 8:31 am
... The sentence directly following that one. If a name is given, implementations MUST consider the link relation type equivalent to the same name registered...
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Charles Iliya Krempeaux
supercanadian@...
Dec 7, 2008 9:17 am
Hello, ... [...] ... Well, obviously anyone can create an Atom URL/URI/IRI/whatever-you-want-to-call-them "rel" extension... and I've even done it for "in...
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Sam Ruby
sa3ruby
Dec 7, 2008 6:13 pm
... Neither place any limits on the number of atom:link elements in such contexts. Atom links with a rel="self"; are already commonplace in RSS 2.0 feeds. -...
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rcade
Dec 7, 2008 7:03 pm
... True. But the documentation for SUP doesn't say that RSS publishers should use atom:link in their feeds to define a provider. The docs just say to add a...
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Charles Iliya Krempeaux
supercanadian@...
Dec 7, 2008 8:38 pm
Hello ... Seems like quite the hack. -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://changelog.ca/...
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James Holderness
james_holder...
Dec 8, 2008 12:33 am
... I know Google uses IRI-based relationships in number of their feeds. Have a look on Google calendar and Picasa for some examples. Not that I'd necessarily...
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prashan
pwaniga
Jan 23, 2009 1:18 pm
Hi everyone, Is there a function in php to check if the date is in the RFC-822 date format? I would greatly appreciate your help. prashan...
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rcade
Jan 23, 2009 3:25 pm
... What language are you coding in?...
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secou
sogloubina
Feb 2, 2009 3:26 pm
Hi, I try to be precise in a generic and popularized RSS definition for non coders. RSS is an XML dialect. It can handle external namespaces declared by...
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Aristotle Pagaltzis
a22pag
Feb 2, 2009 3:47 pm
... “RSS is an XML vocabulary.” ... “It can incorporate other vocabularies if they have a namespace. Namespaces must be declared with `xmlns`...
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scamden
Feb 3, 2009 12:23 am
I've always found this mildly problematic. Ideally, you should be able to define a namespace for RSS and prefix the elements, but I imagine that would break...
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Aristotle Pagaltzis
a22pag
Feb 3, 2009 12:39 am
... 1. The syntax which you might use for this actually undeclares the prefix. You can’t actually declare a prefix for the null namespace. 2. What would be...
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scamden
Feb 3, 2009 1:56 am
If you wanted to use the null namespace for some other purpose, then you could prefix the RSS elements with a properly declared namespace prefix (in an ideal...
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Aristotle Pagaltzis
a22pag
Feb 3, 2009 2:17 am
... I tried that with Atom, which *is* in a namespace, and even then most clients broke: http://plasmasturm.org/log/376/ The situation is greatly improved now...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 3, 2009 3:23 am
I think there's two scenarios that exist with RSS vis-a-vis namespaces. -RSS elements in RSS documents -RSS elements in other XML documents 1. RSS elements in...
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rcade
Feb 4, 2009 4:57 am
Dave Winer's original suggestion of a portable RSS format is now available here: http://www.rssboard.org/news/186 The original is gone from Harvard's blog...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 4, 2009 7:50 am
I like this suggestion. Unless someone objects, I will propose it to the advisory board. I'll give this board a couple days to vent. Randy ...
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James Holderness
james_holder...
Feb 4, 2009 10:42 am
... My concern is that, no matter what you say in the spec, you can be sure that people will start using that namespace in regular feeds. And when they do, I ...
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rcade
Feb 4, 2009 2:45 pm
... URI ... readers ... I look forward to seeing the results of your test, but since that URI was used to define a namespace for RSS 2.0, won't that be...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 4, 2009 3:02 pm
I will wait till you report back before I do anything. Randy http://www.therssweblog.com ... few ... URI...
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James Holderness
james_holder...
Feb 5, 2009 5:20 am
... Results now up on my blog: http://www.xn--8ws00zhy3a.com/blog/2009/02/a-namespace-for-rss ... I wouldn't think so. I may be wrong, but I was under the...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 5, 2009 4:54 pm
Thanks James! There is only 7 clients that support the userland namespace and wouldn't support a new namespace. I would go with a new namespace and a bold...
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Geoffrey Sneddon
gsnedders
Feb 5, 2009 6:42 pm
... FWIW, SimplePie used to support the Userland namespace, but dropped support for it seeming it was used nowhere and does have a cost. It appears (looking...
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Geoffrey Sneddon
gsnedders
Feb 5, 2009 6:49 pm
... To give my opinion as an implementer: do we really need another feed format? Effectively, aggregators have support RSS 0.90, RSS 2.0, Atom 0.3, and Atom...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 5, 2009 7:23 pm
You don't and nobody has to support the userland namespace. I don't have any stats, but I'm betting that almost nobody uses it. Thanks, Randy...
