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1833
Hi, I try to be precise in a generic and popularized RSS definition for non coders. RSS is an XML dialect. It can handle external namespaces declared by...
secou
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Feb 2, 2009
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1834
... “RSS is an XML vocabulary.” ... “It can incorporate other vocabularies if they have a namespace. Namespaces must be declared with `xmlns`...
Aristotle Pagaltzis
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Feb 2, 2009
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1836
I've always found this mildly problematic. Ideally, you should be able to define a namespace for RSS and prefix the elements, but I imagine that would break...
scamden
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Feb 3, 2009
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1837
... 1. The syntax which you might use for this actually undeclares the prefix. You can’t actually declare a prefix for the null namespace. 2. What would be...
Aristotle Pagaltzis
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Feb 3, 2009
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1838
If you wanted to use the null namespace for some other purpose, then you could prefix the RSS elements with a properly declared namespace prefix (in an ideal...
scamden
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Feb 3, 2009
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1839
... I tried that with Atom, which *is* in a namespace, and even then most clients broke: http://plasmasturm.org/log/376/ The situation is greatly improved now...
Aristotle Pagaltzis
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1840
I think there's two scenarios that exist with RSS vis-a-vis namespaces. -RSS elements in RSS documents -RSS elements in other XML documents 1. RSS elements in...
Randy Morin
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Feb 3, 2009
3:23 am
1841
Dave Winer's original suggestion of a portable RSS format is now available here: http://www.rssboard.org/news/186 The original is gone from Harvard's blog...
rcade
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Feb 4, 2009
4:57 am
1842
I like this suggestion. Unless someone objects, I will propose it to the advisory board. I'll give this board a couple days to vent. Randy ...
Randy Morin
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Feb 4, 2009
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1843
... My concern is that, no matter what you say in the spec, you can be sure that people will start using that namespace in regular feeds. And when they do, I ...
James Holderness
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Feb 4, 2009
10:42 am
1844
... URI ... readers ... I look forward to seeing the results of your test, but since that URI was used to define a namespace for RSS 2.0, won't that be...
rcade
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Feb 4, 2009
2:45 pm
1845
I will wait till you report back before I do anything. Randy http://www.therssweblog.com ... few ... URI...
Randy Morin
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Feb 4, 2009
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1846
... Results now up on my blog: http://www.xn--8ws00zhy3a.com/blog/2009/02/a-namespace-for-rss ... I wouldn't think so. I may be wrong, but I was under the...
James Holderness
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Feb 5, 2009
5:20 am
1847
Thanks James! There is only 7 clients that support the userland namespace and wouldn't support a new namespace. I would go with a new namespace and a bold...
Randy Morin
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Feb 5, 2009
4:54 pm
1848
... FWIW, SimplePie used to support the Userland namespace, but dropped support for it seeming it was used nowhere and does have a cost. It appears (looking...
Geoffrey Sneddon
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Feb 5, 2009
6:42 pm
1849
... To give my opinion as an implementer: do we really need another feed format? Effectively, aggregators have support RSS 0.90, RSS 2.0, Atom 0.3, and Atom...
Geoffrey Sneddon
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Feb 5, 2009
6:49 pm
1850
You don't and nobody has to support the userland namespace. I don't have any stats, but I'm betting that almost nobody uses it. Thanks, Randy...
Randy Morin
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Feb 5, 2009
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1851
... I suspect many of those results need to be considered with care: the two I know about are Firefox, which for reasons beyond the ken of mortal man considers...
Phil Ringnalda
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Feb 5, 2009
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1852
... That makes sense. I'm pretty sure that the Universal Feed Parser used by Planet Venus does something similar, and I know for a fact that Snarfer does ...
James Holderness
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Feb 6, 2009
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1853
... What need would it serve? ... For what purpose? Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/>...
Aristotle Pagaltzis
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Feb 6, 2009
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1854
... I know that feeds using the Userland namespace did exist in the past, and I know of at least one that still exists[1]. Unfortunately there's no easy way to...
James Holderness
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Feb 6, 2009
1:46 am
1855
The need is to embed RSS in other XMLs. Currently you cannot do this within any element that has a default namespace. Randy...
Randy Morin
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Feb 6, 2009
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1856
... I think Aristotle was looking for something a little more specific than that. Why do we need to embed RSS in other XML vocabularies? I too would like to...
James Holderness
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Feb 6, 2009
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1857
... Something different but with more amusing possibilities: UFP thinks that http://www.rssboard.org/stuff/things/backend.userland.com/rssRULEZTEHUNIVERSE is a...
Phil Ringnalda
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Feb 6, 2009
2:51 am
1858
... RSS 2.0 is one of the most widely supported XML dialects in existence. That puts a lot of code out there that handles RSS elements and a lot of brains...
rcade
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Feb 6, 2009
4:32 am
1859
... But "title" and "{http://backend.userland.com/rss2}title" _aren't_ the same element, and the same goes for any other local name, and as such for anyone...
Geoffrey Sneddon
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Feb 6, 2009
10:46 am
1860
... This is completely missing my point: if we put something in the spec it massively increases the likelihood of it being used in the real world, and as such...
Geoffrey Sneddon
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Feb 6, 2009
10:53 am
1861
... This sorta helps: <http://google.com/codesearch?hl=en&lr=&q=%22http%3A%2F%2Fbackend.userland.com%2Frss2%22&sbtn=Search ... That said, it mainly contains...
Geoffrey Sneddon
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Feb 6, 2009
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1862
... Under that logic we don't need RSS at all. Atom does everything RSS does and is more precisely specified. Whenever anybody asks me which format they should...
rcade
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Feb 11, 2009
11:36 pm
1863
... Atom happens to be in a namespace, and may therefore theoretically be more suited to solving this particular type of problem, but beyond the AtomPub...
Sam Ruby
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Feb 11, 2009
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