Although I agree that using backend.userland.com might be a better solution, I'm not personally comfortable with hi-jacking their domain without permission....
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scamden
Feb 12, 2009 12:32 am
I agree. Theoretically, any URL that provides the XSD should be legal, though. But as far as a recommendation, I think we should have our own URL. ... domain...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 12, 2009 12:59 am
I think we should start with a discussion of which URL to use "IF" we decide to create namespace for RSS elements used in document other than RSS documents. ...
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Aristotle Pagaltzis
a22pag
Feb 12, 2009 7:52 am
... Except, elements in a namespace and elements outside a namespace aren’t the same thing even if they have the same localname. So this proposal does not...
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scamden
Feb 12, 2009 6:38 pm
Whether it's required or not, some XML tools expect to find an XSD at the end of the URI. It would be courteous of us to provide one....
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 12, 2009 7:14 pm
I'm not aware of any tools that expect XSDs at the namespace. In fact, namespaces don't have to be URIs, they can be any token. Convention is to put a human...
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scamden
Feb 12, 2009 9:36 pm
Both Visual Studio and SlickEdit will verify XML grammar against the XSD located at the URI, and both warn if that URI does not lead to a schema that can be...
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Aristotle Pagaltzis
a22pag
Feb 12, 2009 9:47 pm
... It doesn’t surprise me that SOAPy things show bias in their coverage of the data-vs-document spectrum of uses for XML. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis //...
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scamden
Feb 13, 2009 2:31 am
After some further research: Visual Studio only generates a warning if the URI points to a file with extension .xsd that either cannot be opened or is not in...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 13, 2009 4:41 am
Awesome! I think then that most of us are in agreement, we just need to decide whether to go with the userland or rssboard namespace. I'm going to start a...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 13, 2009 5:28 am
This discussion thread is for the RSS board members to review before voting on the namespace for RSS elements in non-RSS documents. Please present your...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 13, 2009 5:38 am
The http://backend.userland.com/rss namespace is a URI not owned by anyone associated with the RSS advisory board and this may lead to an ownership stink in...
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Ryan Parman
skyzyxufks
Feb 13, 2009 5:55 am
I would argue in favor of using http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification as this is where the current ownership of the spec is. The old Userland URI is...
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rcade
Feb 13, 2009 3:40 pm
For those who are concerned about http://backend.userland.com/rss2 not being under the control of the board, I think it's entirely possible at some point that...
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scamden
Feb 13, 2009 11:03 pm
I would agree with other statements here that the URI should be on rssboard.org instead of userland.com ... not ... - ... http://www.rssboard.org. ... to ... ...
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James Holderness
james_holder...
Feb 16, 2009 3:51 pm
First a clarification: the namespace I was proposing (and the one that I tested) was http://backend.userland.com/rss2 (note the 2 on the end that was missing...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 16, 2009 4:20 pm
... Sorry about that. Randy http://www.therssweblog.com...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 20, 2009 10:06 pm
Unless someone changes their vote before next Wednesday, the 'http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification' has won the day. 1 for...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 26, 2009 4:38 pm
5 votes for the rssboard.org namespace (Ryan,Randy,Sterling,Rogers,Simone) 1 vote for the userland.com namespace (James) 4 abstains (Eric,Jenny,Jason,Jake) 1...
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illesfarkas
Mar 6, 2009 4:10 pm
Hi, I'd like to download with wget an entire feed, not just the most recent part of it. As I scroll down in a feed with Google Reader, it can add older parts...
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Rogers Cadenhead
rcade
Mar 6, 2009 4:17 pm
Most feeds don't provide an archive of a site's content; they just include the most recent content. To go back further, you'd have to find an aggregator that...
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James Holderness
james_holder...
Mar 6, 2009 8:31 pm
... You can do the same kind of thing through Google's API. However, bear in mind that what you're getting back isn't the original feed content - it will have...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Mar 18, 2009 5:28 am
I don't really like the outcome of this thread. Basically, we have proprietary APIs and an Atom solution that isn't adopted or scalable (it requires dynamic...
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James Holderness
james_holder...
Mar 22, 2009 1:05 pm
... FWIW the "Atom" solution (assuming you're referring to RFC5005) can just as easily be used in an RSS feed (see appendix B). As for the issue of ...
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Sam Ruby
sa3ruby
Mar 22, 2009 1:56 pm
... In addition to appendix B, see reference 9, which gives attribution to both D. Winer and a work product of this group. Here is a feed that is served...
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Randy Charles Morin
randymorin
Mar 22, 2009 7:40 pm
No API is required for export, just common sense. Here's what I do. http://www.therssweblog.com/archive.xml I think a simply solution like this might actually...
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James Holderness
james_holder...
Mar 23, 2009 4:11 pm
... I wouldn't consider this particular solution any better than those already in use, but it's probably workable (assuming you get a proper namespace for the...
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Rogers Cadenhead
rcade
Mar 23, 2009 4:54 pm
... Seems workable to me. Where do you put comments, trackbacks and pingbacks?...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Mar 23, 2009 7:48 pm
All existing RSS extensions are in play. I use to implement CommentAPI, Trackbacks and Pinbacks, but trackback and pingback spam caused me to abandon each. I...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Mar 28, 2009 3:28 pm
A few admin edits were approved by the board this last week. You can review the edits here. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-board/message/278 Voting...
