... What need would it serve? ... For what purpose? Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/>...
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James Holderness
james_holder...
Feb 6, 2009 1:46 am
... I know that feeds using the Userland namespace did exist in the past, and I know of at least one that still exists[1]. Unfortunately there's no easy way to...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 6, 2009 1:47 am
The need is to embed RSS in other XMLs. Currently you cannot do this within any element that has a default namespace. Randy...
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James Holderness
james_holder...
Feb 6, 2009 1:57 am
... I think Aristotle was looking for something a little more specific than that. Why do we need to embed RSS in other XML vocabularies? I too would like to...
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Phil Ringnalda
philringnalda
Feb 6, 2009 2:51 am
... Something different but with more amusing possibilities: UFP thinks that http://www.rssboard.org/stuff/things/backend.userland.com/rssRULEZTEHUNIVERSE is a...
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rcade
Feb 6, 2009 4:32 am
... RSS 2.0 is one of the most widely supported XML dialects in existence. That puts a lot of code out there that handles RSS elements and a lot of brains...
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Geoffrey Sneddon
gsnedders
Feb 6, 2009 10:46 am
... But "title" and "{http://backend.userland.com/rss2}title" _aren't_ the same element, and the same goes for any other local name, and as such for anyone...
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Geoffrey Sneddon
gsnedders
Feb 6, 2009 10:53 am
... This is completely missing my point: if we put something in the spec it massively increases the likelihood of it being used in the real world, and as such...
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Geoffrey Sneddon
gsnedders
Feb 6, 2009 10:57 am
... This sorta helps: <http://google.com/codesearch?hl=en&lr=&q=%22http%3A%2F%2Fbackend.userland.com%2Frss2%22&sbtn=Search ... That said, it mainly contains...
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rcade
Feb 11, 2009 11:36 pm
... Under that logic we don't need RSS at all. Atom does everything RSS does and is more precisely specified. Whenever anybody asks me which format they should...
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Sam Ruby
sa3ruby
Feb 11, 2009 11:52 pm
... Atom happens to be in a namespace, and may therefore theoretically be more suited to solving this particular type of problem, but beyond the AtomPub...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 12, 2009 12:08 am
Although I agree that using backend.userland.com might be a better solution, I'm not personally comfortable with hi-jacking their domain without permission....
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scamden
Feb 12, 2009 12:32 am
I agree. Theoretically, any URL that provides the XSD should be legal, though. But as far as a recommendation, I think we should have our own URL. ... domain...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 12, 2009 12:59 am
I think we should start with a discussion of which URL to use "IF" we decide to create namespace for RSS elements used in document other than RSS documents. ...
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Aristotle Pagaltzis
a22pag
Feb 12, 2009 7:52 am
... Except, elements in a namespace and elements outside a namespace aren’t the same thing even if they have the same localname. So this proposal does not...
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scamden
Feb 12, 2009 6:38 pm
Whether it's required or not, some XML tools expect to find an XSD at the end of the URI. It would be courteous of us to provide one....
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 12, 2009 7:14 pm
I'm not aware of any tools that expect XSDs at the namespace. In fact, namespaces don't have to be URIs, they can be any token. Convention is to put a human...
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scamden
Feb 12, 2009 9:36 pm
Both Visual Studio and SlickEdit will verify XML grammar against the XSD located at the URI, and both warn if that URI does not lead to a schema that can be...
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Aristotle Pagaltzis
a22pag
Feb 12, 2009 9:47 pm
... It doesn’t surprise me that SOAPy things show bias in their coverage of the data-vs-document spectrum of uses for XML. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis //...
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scamden
Feb 13, 2009 2:31 am
After some further research: Visual Studio only generates a warning if the URI points to a file with extension .xsd that either cannot be opened or is not in...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 13, 2009 4:41 am
Awesome! I think then that most of us are in agreement, we just need to decide whether to go with the userland or rssboard namespace. I'm going to start a...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 13, 2009 5:28 am
This discussion thread is for the RSS board members to review before voting on the namespace for RSS elements in non-RSS documents. Please present your...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 13, 2009 5:38 am
The http://backend.userland.com/rss namespace is a URI not owned by anyone associated with the RSS advisory board and this may lead to an ownership stink in...
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Ryan Parman
skyzyxufks
Feb 13, 2009 5:55 am
I would argue in favor of using http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification as this is where the current ownership of the spec is. The old Userland URI is...
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rcade
Feb 13, 2009 3:40 pm
For those who are concerned about http://backend.userland.com/rss2 not being under the control of the board, I think it's entirely possible at some point that...
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scamden
Feb 13, 2009 11:03 pm
I would agree with other statements here that the URI should be on rssboard.org instead of userland.com ... not ... - ... http://www.rssboard.org. ... to ... ...
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James Holderness
james_holder...
Feb 16, 2009 3:51 pm
First a clarification: the namespace I was proposing (and the one that I tested) was http://backend.userland.com/rss2 (note the 2 on the end that was missing...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 16, 2009 4:20 pm
... Sorry about that. Randy http://www.therssweblog.com...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 20, 2009 10:06 pm
Unless someone changes their vote before next Wednesday, the 'http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification' has won the day. 1 for...
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Randy Morin
randymorin
Feb 26, 2009 4:38 pm
5 votes for the rssboard.org namespace (Ryan,Randy,Sterling,Rogers,Simone) 1 vote for the userland.com namespace (James) 4 abstains (Eric,Jenny,Jason,Jake) 1...
