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Re: [rss-user] See you later, aggregator.

Yes, I think a number of people are working on this.

It's surprisingly tricky, though. The problem is a technical problem -- so skip
this if you're not curious about the under-the-hood workings of aggregators.

In order to make something like a newsrc file work, you need to be able to
identify individual items in a feed. The traditional way to do this is with some
kind of identifier unique to each item.

Some versions of RSS support unique identifiers, but earlier versions don't. And
even though unique identifiers are allowed in newer versions of RSS, not every
feed uses them.

So -- when unique identifiers are not present in a feed, how do you identify an
item? With its link? Its title? A hash of the description? Some combination? Any
solution is bound to be less than perfect.

-Brent


On Monday, December 29, 2003 Allen Hutchison wrote:

>One thing that I would like to see, is a standard way to tell a news
>aggregator what I have already read. I'm thinking of something like a
>newsrc file for usenet, so that I can use different RSS readers on
>different platforms / machines and not have to read the same news over
>and over again. Is anyone working on something like this?
>
>Regards,
>
>Allen




Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:19 pm

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I couldn't resist. Roger Benningfield made a few good points about some of the major aggregators. I agree that our aggregator shapes our opinion of rss-feeds....
Chuck Welch
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Dec 29, 2003
10:33 am

I tried several aggregators about a year ago and settled on NetNewsWire on the mac. On the PC I settled on NewsDesk, and tried NewsGator, and NewzCrawler. I...
Allen Hutchison
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Dec 29, 2003
6:52 pm

... AmphetaDesk v0.94 will have something like this, though I've not yet determined on a transport method to synchronize that information. -- Morbus Iff ( i...
Morbus Iff
morbus_iff Offline Send Email
Dec 29, 2003
7:14 pm

Funny how mention shopping for aggregators. I did this as well and would move on after a month or so. What became of prime importance to me was accessability....
Patrick
pgrote Offline Send Email
Dec 29, 2003
7:25 pm

tried: Newzcrawler FeedDemon Sharpreader RSS Bandit Amphetadesk NewsGator Feedreader Bloglines nntp//rss Aggie Radio (long time ago) extended use: Newzcrawler ...
Roger B.
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Dec 29, 2003
7:54 pm

Yes, I think a number of people are working on this. It's surprisingly tricky, though. The problem is a technical problem -- so skip this if you're not curious...
Brent Simmons
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Dec 29, 2003
7:25 pm

I have a couple of additional questions related to aggregator usage that I'd love to hear people's thoughts on: 1. If you are an RSS provider: What percentage...
tonischneider Offline Send Email Dec 29, 2003
6:53 pm

How do you track RSS usage? Through hits to the file? I use the program AXS (http://www.xav.com/scripts/axs/)for site statistics and if I could find a way to...
Patrick
pgrote Offline Send Email
Dec 29, 2003
7:26 pm

... Here's some quickie stats from four JournURL-powered blogs over the last week: - 2,362 page requests, 812 of them for RSS - 1,363 page requests, 613 of...
Roger B.
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Dec 29, 2003
7:54 pm

... Unfortunately, just counting hits to RSS feeds will generally vastly overcount the number of readers of those feeds. Because aggregators automatically...
Mark Fletcher
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Dec 30, 2003
2:18 am

Toni – I have a personal blog which serves about 1,000 page views per day. Meanwhile I get about 1,800 hits per day on my RSS feed. About ½ get “not...
Ole Eichhorn
ole9 Offline Send Email
Dec 30, 2003
2:19 am

... At macmegasite.com, I find that at least 75% of my hits come from a news aggregator, mainly NetNewsWire....
Mike Cohen
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Dec 30, 2003
4:12 am

... More than 60% of the people that go to my site through my RDF & XML feeds. About 25% end up on my site. The rest come through search engines. liza...
liza sabater
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Dec 30, 2003
4:13 am

... this comes from syndic8.com http://www.syndic8.com/ stats.php?section=overview&PHPSESSID=ca024e5d904573b5e2c70f7b88152ae7 l i z a =========================...
liza sabater
lm_sabater Offline Send Email
Dec 30, 2003
10:43 am

... For what it's worth, AmphetaDesk was just going to use an md5 of the item's title and description, with the following logic: "title" + "description" OR...
Morbus Iff
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Dec 29, 2003
7:54 pm
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